Opinions on the requirement to store firearms securely

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Re: Opinions on the requirement to store firearms securely

Post by Old Fart » 17 Dec 2014, 3:14 pm

Mark.A wrote:I do enjoy hearing the old war stories at the GS and at the Range, about how weapons where left loaded near doors, and in reach of people, but that was a saner simpler time, people respected other peoples belongings, they understood the danger involved in items, and they took personal responsibility for there own actions, rather than trying to make it everyone elses problem.


If you were on property it was pretty common to have a shotty near the door and a shell on the counter.

Snake gun for the missus if one came slithering.

Many years ago.
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Re: Opinions on the requirement to store firearms securely

Post by bunnybuster » 22 Dec 2014, 12:30 am

Old Fart wrote:If you were on property it was pretty common to have a shotty near the door and a shell on the counter.

Snake gun for the missus if one came slithering.

Many years ago.


+1

Now the snakes slither to the door and ask to use your toilet/phone/whatever, a solid gimlet walking stick is by the door, where else. I use it to go out when my hip plays up and the dogs are always entertained.

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Re: Opinions on the requirement to store firearms securely

Post by Herdsman » 22 Dec 2014, 4:46 pm

We've found 2 pythons in the oven over the years.

Left the door down to cool after cooking and they've got in once it was down enough but still warm.

Only pythons in these cases but you wouldn't want a brown in your oven!
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Re: Opinions on the requirement to store firearms securely

Post by on_one_wheel » 22 Dec 2014, 6:32 pm

Old Fart wrote:
Mark.A wrote:I do enjoy hearing the old war stories at the GS and at the Range, about how weapons where left loaded near doors, and in reach of people, but that was a saner simpler time, people respected other peoples belongings, they understood the danger involved in items, and they took personal responsibility for there own actions, rather than trying to make it everyone elses problem.


If you were on property it was pretty common to have a shotty near the door and a shell on the counter.

Snake gun for the missus if one came slithering.

Many years ago.


I live in a area that has a high density population of snakes, My firearms are stored correctly, I can have the 12 gauge out of the safe, out of its bag, loaded and have it outside the house in 30 seconds... I just timed it :lol: but thats a dam sight longer than the 5 seconds it would take if it's sitting behind the font door, then again I can't see a problem having it sit out of the safe, unloaded with 2 shells in your pocket provided you are in the same room.
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Re: Opinions on the requirement to store firearms securely

Post by Old Fart » 23 Dec 2014, 5:39 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:then again I can't see a problem having it sit out of the safe, unloaded with 2 shells in your pocket provided you are in the same room.


That's an idea, provided shooting is permitted on your property of course.

Won't be the case for all unfortunately.
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Re: Opinions on the requirement to store firearms securely

Post by Title_II » 24 Dec 2014, 12:24 am

There should be no requirements but it makes sense to do it if you can afford it. I did, but some of my stuff is pretty serious.

I didn't have a safe most of my life but I would leave my guns with family if I had to travel.
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Re: Opinions on the requirement to store firearms securely

Post by Sender » 25 Dec 2014, 7:19 am

Title_II wrote:There should be no requirements but it makes sense to do it if you can afford it.


So what are your justifications and arguments for not needing to store them?

Given the potential issues mentioned previously.

(Genuinely asking)

I'm hoping for more of an understanding from people than 'just because'.
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Re: Opinions on the requirement to store firearms securely

Post by Title_II » 25 Dec 2014, 8:59 am

Sender wrote:So what are your justifications and arguments for not needing to store them?


I don't think a person should have to earn the financial means to buy into the legal right of self defense. And I don't like laws that would criminalize someone for the possibility that they might be victimized.

If we are going to criminalize a law abiding Citizen because a burglar might break into his house and steal his guns, then we should criminalize you for travelling to and from the range without a sidearm.

If I was a criminal, and I was going to rob you to get your guns, I don't think I would want to go in your house.
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Re: Opinions on the requirement to store firearms securely

Post by Korkt » 26 Dec 2014, 9:06 am

Title_II wrote:I don't think a person should have to earn the financial means to buy into the legal right of self defense. And I don't like laws that would criminalize someone for the possibility that they might be victimized.


Well said.
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Re: Opinions on the requirement to store firearms securely

Post by Sender » 26 Dec 2014, 9:08 am

Title_II wrote:I don't think a person should have to earn the financial means to buy into the legal right of self defense. And I don't like laws that would criminalize someone for the possibility that they might be victimized.


Hmm, fair points.
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