Buying "straight pull" converted rifles?

[1290]

No.

[threeoh]

No what?

[Vati]

Strange law you have there regarding appearance over function.

"Strange"?

I think the work you're looking for is "Stupid".

[pawnee]

I'm in the UK (where semi centrefires are restricted) so assembled my own AR15 from importing parts from the states. I was thinking of bringing it to Australia as I'm emigrating next year and thought the action was legal but sadly won't be able to because it looks like a military rifle. It is a milspec AR15, I just built it as a straight pull.

You're allowed to just order parts and build your own over there?

[Wes]

Cool build there grizzly.

Thanks for the pictures.

[grizzly]

I'm in the UK (where semi centrefires are restricted) so assembled my own AR15 from importing parts from the states. I was thinking of bringing it to Australia as I'm emigrating next year and thought the action was legal but sadly won't be able to because it looks like a military rifle. It is a milspec AR15, I just built it as a straight pull.

You're allowed to just order parts and build your own over there?

Yeah no distinction between possesion and manufacture here. If you have authority to possess you have authority to all parts and build although i don't think i'd have the skill to build any other rifle than AR15. They are pretty easy to assemble and plenty of instructions on ar15.com, brownells etc.

[1290]

No what?

No,

you
can
not
have
a
straight
pull
AR15.

Warwicks went quiet didnt they? I'll change my No to a yes when they issue a media release stating that all states have agreed to classify their converted full auto to a repeating rifle.

SA is the state with equally to WA ?? the most retarded firearm administration..... while in Vic, which according to many is the most 'liberal' has these firearms RECLASSIFIED into the no-play-for-you list.....

BTW, a pet hate of mine is when firearms are referred to as WEAPONS..... a weapon is an implement either used or intended to be used against another person.... not a target or hunting firearm, rifle, gun, shotgun, revolver, pistol, bangstick or described as anything other than weapon.

The anti ALWAY refer to firearms as weapons as that imparts the violent sinister connotation... Even some of our 'government' have resorted to this ploy by naming legislation as weapon and not firearm Act or regs.....

If you're a security guard or a peace officer or a soldier, then you indeed carry a weapon.

[Aussier]

Why I put "army weapons" in quotes in my first reply.

[Baronvonrort]

Probably that you'll scare people with your "army weapons"

I forget the wording exactly, but the firearms act prohibits firearms which have been 'designed or adapted' for military purposes, or are 'similar in appearance or function' to military firearms.

It doesn't actually have to be automatic, semi-automatic, or select fire... just the appearance of a military firearm is enough to make it prohibited.

The M14 is a good example of this. This was previously allow with a Cat D license in NSW, but earlier this year their Firearms Registry made it a prohibited firearm because it was originally designed and used by the military. It was designed and used in 1959 - 1970 so no idea why they got in a huff about it 43 years later but there you go.

If you're a Government contract shooter in NSW you're required to shoot with a .308 or higher. You can have a semi-auto .308 with a Cat D license, you just can't have this particular semi-auto .308 because of it's military origins.

The M14 is still used for target shooting comps and ceremonial purposes by the USA military which is why it is considered a current military firearm.

The M14 and L1A1 are allowed for government contracted aerial culling according to the NSW FAAST course manual, they cannot be used for anything else, if you have a contract with Dept primary industries for aerial culling you can buy 2 L1A1's from military surplus, the rules state you need a spare rifle so that is why 2 are allowed.

Cat D cannot have these firearms unless they are certified for aerial culling.

The whole military appearance thing is BS, Accuracy International make military sniper rifles so why are they allowed ?

[1290]

I believe the M14 was still issued in the great sandpit(s).....so although it by no stretch of credulity makes it more 'DANGEROUS'.... It remains a current mil issued firearm....

[keen]

if you have a contract with Dept primary industries for aerial culling you can buy 2 L1A1's from military surplus, the rules state you need a spare rifle so that is why 2 are allowed.

God they can't make there mind up can they.

On one hand they do everything they can to discourage or prevent you from owning shooters, on the other they demand you have a spare

[ToddG]

Warwicks went quiet didnt they? I'll change my No to a yes when they issue a media release stating that all states have agreed to classify their converted full auto to a repeating rifle.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/4A_NlaplS_o

Doesn't look too quiet on the Warwick front...

I believe they are calling it the WFA1.

[agentzero]

I note it says Category B on the intro there, as of Jul 19, 2014.

[1290]

I note it says Category B on the intro there, as of Jul 19, 2014.

Thats mean little.... has anyone actually had a PTA issued and the rifle registered as a cat B? if so great, there is nothing more pleasing than another Aussie business manufacturing a sought after product locally.

however,

the Heckler & Koch Model R8 rifle; the DPMS Panther Pump Action rifle; and the Olympic Arms Match E2 MK rifle
were ALSO cat B until someone (WAYNE ASHLEY, Superintendent Licensing Services Division Victoria Police along with a 'panel') decided otherwise and reclassified these repeating rifles to category D.

If someone can confirm they have specific state by state approval as cat B, please post.

[GPostal]

I went old school
Almost a full military straight pull.

[Seconds]

Nah, "military" is a four letter word with our registry.

It's a "collectable" straight pull