Did we ever not need permits?

[sally-bee]

It would be before my time but was there a day in Aus when you could just flash a license and walk out of a store with that cat firearm?

Or did we have stupid permits from the go?

[bigfellascott]

No such thing as a category back then or permits for that matter, you just went to the cop shop and asked for a firearms license, paid your $2 got the license there and then and down to the GS to buy your rifle, the way it still should be really.

[trekin]

And in pre '90 QLD, with our weird and wonderful laws, no licence was required for longarms just had to be over 18 years. '90 to '96 you applied for a "lifetime" licence for $40 and you showed it at the LGS when buying a firearm. This was for longarms only.

[Josh Smith]

Can you all still make in-person sales without involving some idiotic licensing procedure?

Josh

[TheDude]

Can you all still make in-person sales without involving some idiotic licensing procedure?

Josh

Buyer needs PTA and it needs to be brokered by a licensed dealer.

[deye243]

No such thing as a category back then or permits for that matter, you just went to the cop shop and asked for a firearms license, paid your $2 got the license there and then and down to the GS to buy your rifle, the way it still should be really.

hrrrrr thems was the days Scott just walk in and say can i have a look at that ruger semi thanks mate

yep no probs we just got these last week he says , have a look and yep i'll take it how much the answer

$128 pay him and sign the book and on me way with a brick no bag just walk up the main street and

not one foul look from any one .

[bigfellascott]

No such thing as a category back then or permits for that matter, you just went to the cop shop and asked for a firearms license, paid your $2 got the license there and then and down to the GS to buy your rifle, the way it still should be really.

hrrrrr thems was the days Scott just walk in and say can i have a look at that ruger semi thanks mate

yep no probs we just got these last week he says , have a look and yep i'll take it how much the answer

$128 pay him and sign the book and on me way with a brick no bag just walk up the main street and

not one foul look from any one .

They were indeed the day's mate, I miss em - we have way too much control over what we do these days.

[deye243]

and i think all this keep it hidden crap is wrong the public just don't see firearms any more so when they do it must be wrong

we have to change all this and bring it all back to the mainstream of Aussie life

[bigfellascott]

and i think all this keep it hidden crap is wrong the public just don't see firearms any more so when they do it must be wrong

we have to change all this and bring it all back to the mainstream of Aussie life

Yeah mate I think you have a point, I know when I was a young fella I'd walk around town with rabbits and ducks hanging off me with a shottie over my shoulder on my way back from shooting and no one batted an eyelid, most wanted to see what I shot, do it now and the world would end!

[Aster]

You used to be able to get an air rifle off the shelf at rebel sport years ago if I remember rightly.

[deye243]

You used to be able to get an air rifle off the shelf at rebel sport years ago if I remember rightly.

we as kids could buy them just about anywhere camping shops fishing tackle shops you name it

[dustin]

sounds right.

air rifle is more of a toy than a firearm IMO.

[deye243]

depends if the kid that has it has half a brain or not

[bigfellascott]

You used to be able to buy rifles from K-Mart and ammo as well they were the days - roll in to do the shopping and buy your rifle and ammo in the same shop.

[deye243]

yep and Aussie disposals

[Usurper]

Can you all still make in-person sales without involving some idiotic licensing procedure?

Nope.

A 'Permit To Acquire' is required for each and every firearm before a person takes possession of it.

Doesn't matter if it's from a store, private sale, bought, gifted or even inherited.

[gillian]

Can you all still make in-person sales without involving some idiotic licensing procedure?

Nope.

A 'Permit To Acquire' is required for each and every firearm before a person takes possession of it.

Doesn't matter if it's from a store, private sale, bought, gifted or even inherited.

This is not quite correct
last week i took my shot out 223 into the lgs handed it over along with some cash and walked out with a new howa 223
you can exchange like for like without another PTA

http://www.foaa.com.au/wp-content/uploa ... Policy.pdf

[Bourt]

You still needed a permit for the firearm you took is what he's saying, to answer Josh's question.

[headspace]

Back in the "Good Old Days" I can recall walking up to the railway station carrying by 303 getting on the train to Liverpool and walking out to ANZAC Rifle Range then doing it in reverse after the shoot. The rifle had no cover, and the bolt was in it. Nobody paid the slightest attention. Try that today and there'd be helicopters, SWAT teams and everything. You didn't need a license for anything except a handgun, and you hung your guns on the wall of your room, and your ammo in the sock drawer. But then, (pre 1965) things were a lot simpler.
JD

[deye243]

Back in the "Good Old Days" I can recall walking up to the railway station carrying by 303 getting on the train to Liverpool and walking out to ANZAC Rifle Range then doing it in reverse after the shoot. The rifle had no cover, and the bolt was in it. Nobody paid the slightest attention. Try that today and there'd be helicopters, SWAT teams and everything. You didn't need a license for anything except a handgun, and you hung your guns on the wall of your room, and your ammo in the sock drawer. But then, (pre 1965) things were a lot simpler.
JD

and this is our fault with all this keep it hidden and don't alarm the public crap

so now if some knob sees us with a firearm calls the cops because they are

not seen often enough .

[Seconds]

I have an idea for building awareness.

Obviously we'd all get in the s**t for carrying firearms around all the time.

So, any time you go somewhere pack stuff in your rifle back instead

Get everyone used to seeing them constantly and if you get stopped you show the fuzz that your bag id just filled with clothes or whatever

Next trip through the airport is going to be interesting

[deye243]

this could be fun even if only for the stupid looks on people's faces

[anthillinside]

Yeah could be "fun" but I think it could add considerable "time" to my daily commute

[Yazz]

K Mart was definitely the cheapest place for you guns and ammo Remember riding pushy down the street rabbits over handlebars rifle over shoulder and ferret in a bag

[deye243]

yep only no ferret

[anthillinside]

Now your showing your age.
Used to go camping a lot with a few mates, normally picked up few supplies on the way out friday night (the first late night shopping night here)
A mate saw a 12g Pump action and bought it spur of the moment.
We all had .22s but that was the first shotty in the group.
I still remember the size of the bruses

[deye243]

Now your showing your age.
Used to go camping a lot with a few mates, normally picked up few supplies on the way out friday night (the first late night shopping night here)
A mate saw a 12g Pump action and bought it spur of the moment.
We all had .22s but that was the first shotty in the group.
I still remember the size of the bruses

yep won't be long before i make sure the tyres on me wheelchair have enough air in them as well as the hilux

[Octane]

this could be fun even if only for the stupid looks on people's faces

And get a mate to film reactions on the sly

[headspace]

I worked in a gun store back in 1965 in George St Sydney, and used to buy all sorts of stuff that took me fancy. No worries about paperwork, just carry it home in the train after work. My best was an Oberndorff Mauser in 9.3x54 with a hex barrel and lever operated floorplate. The skinny stock used to transfer a bit of hurt though. I look back on those days and wonder where we went so wrong. A firearm is an inanimate object like a hammer. You can kill with either one, but it's not the fault of the implement, just the goose who holds it.

[bluerob]

I once walked into a gun store and buying the Spas 12 that a mate ended up owning years ago. "Here's my license, I'll have that Spas 12 please." Out the door and done.

I'd also like to know where we also went wrong when society is supposed to be advancing when you need more paperwork to purchase a gun than you use in morning ablutions (don't know a better term for wiping your a$$).

The permit system and all the fees that we pay will stop any chance of us going back to "the good old days". Govts need money for important things like refurbishing a previous ministers office with $20,000 lounges as the newbie thinks that it'll make for better decisions.....