Do I need to supply it again? and Can I?

[jennageit]

Hi Guys,

I'm busy filling out my PTA for my first firearm, and it asks the question, have you changed your name.
Obviously I did when I got married, but I've already supplied the documentation with my licence application (which isn't back yet), so should I need to supply it again?

I was planning on sending the PTA off in the next week or so.

Also, does anyone know if it's possible to buy things like a gun safe and targets before your licence comes through?

Thanks in advance

Jenna

[Mr.x]

Yes you can buy a safe and targets

[jennageit]

Excellent.

I'm doing it bit by bit so want to grab things as I can afford them. I'm now worrying about whether I'll have any issues with my license. I have no record or anything, never been in trouble, a few involvements from when my ex beat the crap out of me, but that's it.

I'm thinking I'll pick up the cheaper, smaller items over the next couple of weeks, and get the bigger stuff when the license comes through, not that I'm chicken or anything lol

do you know about whether I'll need to supply all of the documentation again?

[1290]

yes, certified copy of marriage certificate, the missers has to supply a new copy each time.... apparently they dont keep these on file or some bs like that...What I think is that they make each and every part of licensing and ownership as difficult as possible. You'd think that once you've proven who you are to get the licence......it would be accepted as fact.

You know you dont need to buy a steel safe... the law allows a hardwood receptacle provided its not 'easily' penetrable. Later on when you have a few firearms upgrade....

[jennageit]

Thanks,

Sounds like what I had to go through with my PSO application. Endless forms sent to VicPol, which took months to round up, only to fail the fitness test (by 0.034 seconds), and receive a letter two days later that I had to submit our marriage license all over again. I never bothered because I couldn't pass the fitness test.

It's easier to get married than get a gun license! Sheesh, even my son had less trouble getting his motorbike license than what we are all being made to do to get a firearm. Anyway, complaining about it isn't going to get it done lol

I'm going for the safe idea for two reasons. One is that hubby is buying it as a prezzie for me, and two is that I have kids, teenagers actually, and although I trust them, they're teenagers, so I want my firearms in a nice, sturdy safe. I've found a nice one, and the prices seem to range from $200 - $300 for a five gun safe.

[scrolllock]

Also, does anyone know if it's possible to buy things like a gun safe and targets before your licence comes through?

You need a license for firearms, live ammunition, powder and primers.

You can buy anything else you want/need without. Reloading gear, projectiles, rifle accessories etc.

[Shotfox]

Hi Jenna. Just on the subject of safes , the September edition of the SSAA magazine came with another magazine all about gun safes and safe storage. Try and grab it as it is a good read about the many types of safes available and prices etc.

[Lorgar]

yes, certified copy of marriage certificate, the missers has to supply a new copy each time.... apparently they dont keep these on file or some bs like that...What I think is that they make each and every part of licensing and ownership as difficult as possible. You'd think that once you've proven who you are to get the licence......it would be accepted as fact.

There is no connection between the different kinds of check either.

Through work I sometimes process Police & criminal history checks for clients and to get given access to the system I had to go through the checks myself.

I assumed - incorrectly as it turns out - that having gone through everything for the firearms license I could just supply verified copies of my ID to prove I was who I said and that would do. That's not the case though, my license was just used as another form of identification but I was submitted through all the usual checks. The checks done for the shooting license didn't count for anything.

There's also different levels of checks. The Police & criminal history checks just show convictions, not charges, court appearances etc. Really just for checking for any dishonesty offences for general business, or driving offences if you wanted to become a cabbie etc. They'll release the info of a conviction if it's relevant for the reason the check is being done, if you have a conviction they feel is unrelated they won't release the info.

In most states there is also a 'Working with children' check which goes beyond that. If you'd been charged of a child related offence but not convicted and applied for a job at a school this would still be shown in the report. But then Tasmania and SA don't have this check, so if you're caught up in something in QLD that prevents you from working there with kids you can move to Tas or SA and it wouldn't come up in a Police & criminal history check there

It's all over the place.

[Shotfox]

Ok Lorgar that seems clear to everyone im sure This is the reason we have fruit fly signs that make you dump fruit before crossing the boarder. If only fruit flys could read, think of the money the burocracy would save in signs.

[Lorgar]

Clear as mud.

[FuzzyM]

Don't forget that you need to have your storage ready and compliant before you can tick the box and send off your PTA.

[jennageit]

Thanks for the reminder FuzzyM.

We're in the process of doing that now. Just a few more shelves to take out and my safe should fit nicely!

Jenna

[veep]

Don't forget that you need to have your storage ready and compliant before you can tick the box and send off your PTA.

You can actually write 'no' for that during the license application (when I did mine anyway you could).

When I did my license it asked if I had the storage blah blah blah. And if not what the explanation was.

I ticked no, and explained I currently had no guns and would get the safe installed before purchasing any.

License came back no problems or questions.

Then I got my safe, and when doing PTA said I had the safe and got it NP.

[FuzzyM]

Fair enough, I wasn't sure if that was allowed or not.

[veep]

Neither was I.

I called the registry when I did mine and even the bloke there didn't know off the top of his head.

Had to go and check with the boss who said it was cool.

Wouldn't seem to make sense than you can say no on the form but there it is.