Ukraine war

[Oldbloke]

How's them F16s going?

I saw a report that they lost one has there been many more? Zelenski was praising them the other day when Russia let loose with all those missiles and drones

Only 1. And my understanding is that it crashed and Russia had SFA to do with it.
I guess in coming days there will be more details forthcoming.

How does Russia handle losing a few bridges?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y36rdreq1o

[Larry]

Theres no doubt that they will lose some to the Russians. I dont think any airforce could flyany plane without risk in the war zone.

[Oldbloke]

Theres no doubt that they will lose some to the Russians. I dont think any airforce could flyany plane without risk in the war zone.

100%

[Billo]

Rationing fuel now in Russia, Oligarchs are starting to get annoyed......

[alexjones]

Rationing fuel now in Russia, Oligarchs are starting to get annoyed......

You know Russia has a lot of the worlds oil right? By “rationing” as you say all they are doing is lowering the world oil supply thus increasing the price of oil. Its a tactic to piss people off.

Also, you don't think Ukraine is “rationing” oil also?

[alexjones]

I read Ukraine so far has between10-12 F16s in service but only has 6 pilots.

During the battle of Britain when it looked like the British might lose, some of the British pilots had only 10 hours flight time on a spitfire.
Anyone can be a frontline grunt in no time but a modern day fighter jet pilot requires years of training to be effective.

[Billo]

Rationing fuel now in Russia, Oligarchs are starting to get annoyed......

You know Russia has a lot of the worlds oil right? By “rationing” as you say all they are doing is lowering the world oil supply thus increasing the price of oil. Its a tactic to piss people off.

Also, you don't think Ukraine is “rationing” oil also?

You misunderstood what I wrote, I am talking about the fuel ration inside Russia due to numerous fuel depots being targeted and successfully being struck by Ukraine.

And yes Russia is being forced to sell there Oil very cheaply to China and India

[mchughcb]

Amazing. How's energy prices in Germany?

[Billo]

Amazing. How's energy prices in Germany?

No idea but I'm pretty annoyed at the Lazy socialist priks in Germany, had 5 shipments delayed this year which is costing easy money.

[mchughcb]

Zelensky just fired most of his ministry .

[Oldbloke]

Zelensky just fired most of his ministry .

Actually a planned reshuffle. At least they didn't all die of, poisoning, falling off balconies, aircraft crashes, hit by cars or simply shot.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwywj71ywyeo

[mchughcb]

Sweden's foreign minister resigns before the swedish advisors body bags start arriving home.

[Billo]

Sweden's foreign minister resigns before the swedish advisors body bags start arriving home.

Swedish casualties really chuck ??

this is a nice little summation

https://reason.com/2024/09/05/the-war-i ... ow-it-yet/

[mchughcb]

That's the story doing the rounds as they hit a military training facility. Reuters are saying one of their guys described as a safety advisor was also killed.

[Oldbloke]

That's the story doing the rounds as they hit a military training facility. Reuters are saying one of their guys described as a safety advisor was also killed.

Fake news I think

https://www.logicallyfacts.com/en/fact- ... ile-strike

[Billo]

So Russia are chewy thru 1200 troops a day and 20 armed vehicles, just a bleed out as they can't recruit anything like that.

Ukraine has now held kursk for over a month and still taking more soil, with Trump on the ropes US support and NATO support is only going to grow.

Going to be a hard winter for Thr Russia troops with dwindling moral.

[Oldbloke]

It's interesting.
Russians must have 4x the resources of Ukraine. Yet still unable to win, and unable to really gain much lately.

Ukraine population seems determined to defend the country and with luck will continue to get assistance. Have been resourceful and dug deep. Moral seems good.

History indicates its very hard to maintain control over a determined population that's willing to fight.

This could drag out for years.

[Bugman]

You know OB, I really thought that Mchughcb was flying over to Russia to have a chat with his uncle Vlad and get this mess sorted out.
I am oh so disappointed.

[Oldbloke]

You know OB, I really thought that Mchughcb was flying over to Russia to have a chat with his uncle Vlad and get this mess sorted out.
I am oh so disappointed.

Wouldn't be his first visit.

[mchughcb]

You know OB, I really thought that Mchughcb was flying over to Russia to have a chat with his uncle Vlad and get this mess sorted out.
I am oh so disappointed.

One's expectation can be one's greatest burden.

[mchughcb]

It's interesting.
Russians must have 4x the resources of Ukraine. Yet still unable to win, and unable to really gain much lately.

Ukraine population seems determined to defend the country and with luck will continue to get assistance. Have been resourceful and dug deep. Moral seems good.

History indicates its very hard to maintain control over a determined population that's willing to fight.

This could drag out for years.

Like Germany?

[Bugman]

and, I was looking forward to you bringing back a Matryoshka doll with Putin as the figure. Oh well.....maybe next time.

[mchughcb]

and, I was looking forward to you bringing back a Matryoshka doll with Putin as the figure. Oh well.....maybe next time.

Like this? Certainly aged better than the US presidents and the god knows how many UK and Australian Prime Ministers in that time.

[Billo]

Sanctions on the Chinese banks dealing with desperate Russian companies have really started to bite inside Russia.

Some much is starting to go wrong inside Russia that frustration is surely to boil over in the upper echelon of the corridors of power.

[alexjones]

Poland has raised a brigade to send into ukraine to fight.

https://youtu.be/GWRWN5TaSlI?si=ZSy5CE5u_vLRjC3X

[mchughcb]

Just another band aid solution.
All the sanctions and wonder weapons aren't turning the tide. The tide is now running further up the beach.

[Bugman]

mmmm. Would that be Bondi Beach?

[Oldbloke]

Getting even more interesting.



https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgxgvw38xjo

[Billo]

You know OB, I really thought that Mchughcb was flying over to Russia to have a chat with his uncle Vlad and get this mess sorted out.
I am oh so disappointed.

One's expectation can be one's greatest burden.

Putin started this little charade expecting to run amok and have Kiev in 10 days......................................................................................................

Burdens hey !!

Looks like Ukraine is getting the go ahead to bring out the bigger long range stuff to really annoy Putin

[mchughcb]

It's a game changer.