The Australian Defence Force capability.

[on_one_wheel]

Up to 10 years ahead of the competition would explain the cost.

I wouldn't mind being a fly on the wall when they're talking strategies.
Are fighter jets becoming irrelevant perhaps?

[Oldbloke]

Don't really know. My understanding is that the F16s have been effective in Ukraine. I guess you need a diversity of weapons/equipment

[Oldbloke]

Surprise, surprise,,,I don't think. China has a new fighter jet.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... world.html

[on_one_wheel]

Yeah, but it's made in china.

China would like the world to think they're battle ready however they haven't engaged in war since Vietnam.
The North Korean troops in Ukraine are providing how people preform when they aren't hardened by experience.

[Oldbloke]

An interesting 18 min podcast about recent events.

https://shows.acast.com/asia-pacific-de ... f-66264758

[Oldbloke]

A QLD Company heading into space.

https://asiapacificdefencereporter.com/ ... 4-66264758

[alexjones]

An interesting 18 min podcast about recent events.

https://shows.acast.com/asia-pacific-de ... f-66264758

I did not listen to it mate but is it about how the virgin plane alerted the government about the Chinese live firing? Albo said that the ADF new but it did not seem believable.

[Oldbloke]

No, it covers a number of things

[Oldbloke]

Don't worry, it will be fine

https://youtu.be/mrCA15sFRtY?si=0wqCeL6akh2-6oRJ

[alexjones]

This video reckons it takes Lithgow 6 hours to make a new styer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=w13lrg ... e=youtu.be

[Tinker]

Do you mean Steyr?

[on_one_wheel]

I wonder if Australia is shadowing this Chinese research / spy ship closely, I read today that they are now operating within our economic waters mapping our undersea cables.
I reckon they're getting as much done as possible before our next federal election in case they loose the opportunity if our pushover PM AlberEasy gets voted out.... they've sure been busy in our southern waters.

It's not too late to invite them into port, we could chuck another shrimp on the barbie for em

[bigrich]

I wonder if Australia is shadowing this Chinese research / spy ship closely, I read today that they are now operating within our economic waters mapping our undersea cables.
I reckon they're getting as much done as possible before our next federal election in case they loose the opportunity if our pushover PM AlberEasy gets voted out.... they've sure been busy in our southern waters.

It's not too late to invite them into port, we could chuck another shrimp on the barbie for em

it's a very worrying state of affairs . will a chinese crewed vessel drag it's anchor across our undersea cables like russian ones have allegedly in the baltic sea . i think sweden currently has a ship detained over such actions . chinese bulk carrier yi peng 3
i did a google on the australian navy and we have 3 aging destroyers and 7 frigates . patrol boats and collins subs probably aren't worth mentioning . just crewing and maintaining what we've got is a joke . some time ago we had 2 subs operational, due to the rest being unseaworthy . a modest chinese task force of their latest ships would wipe out our navy in no time . and their building new ships at a astonishing rate , including aircraft carriers, and in a few more years china will have a bigger navy than the US . we need heavy investment in cutting edge weaponry across the board for the ADF as a whole , manpower wise we can't match china and technology is the only means of balancing this

the only new ships are 3 british designed "hunter" class frigates set up for anti sub roles being ordered , with a plan for 6 in total . to defend a country the size of ours it's a big ask

[Oldbloke]

Been watching the ADF debacle for close to 30 years. Just one fuk up after another and tight arse politicians failing to provide a decent budget.
The ones who run procurement need hanging.

Mate, if China attacks we are fukd
Yanks will walk away fron ANZUS because of the cost.

If it wasn't for Marles and the cover up we would have an additional 40 odd helicopters.

Load up a heap of ammo, you might live an extra hour and kill a few if your lucky.

[Bugman]

We could all practice this, if the chinamen arrive

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[Oldbloke]

Guess which is the ALP & which is the LNP?

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[on_one_wheel]

Guess which is the ALP & which is the LNP?

Bong.jpg

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I think you've mistakenly used a photo of the Greens up top.

Anyhow, with the USA turning its back on Ukraine, can we trust they'll be there for us ? Or would Trumps remind our government of all the unpleasant things they've said about him over the past handful of years and leave us high and dry.
I think the current world affairs are playing well for China.

[Oldbloke]

IMO China will invade Taiwan while Trump is in office.

I don't think US will care about Pine Gap. They will just destroy it and build another elsewhere.

[Oldbloke]

Guess which is the ALP & which is the LNP?

Bong.jpg

ostrich-hiding-head-in-sand.jpg

I think you've mistakenly used a photo of the Greens up top.

Anyhow, with the USA turning its back on Ukraine, can we trust they'll be there for us ? Or would Trumps remind our government of all the unpleasant things they've said about him over the past handful of years and leave us high and dry.
I think the current world affairs are playing well for China.

My bad. Corrected.

[Oldbloke]

on one wheel is correct. Top is the Greens.

[bigrich]

OB's pic posts and when the chinese attack .....

greens- yeah , oh wow , you mixed those pics bad , baldy old-bloke dude. looks like a real gnarly bong but . wow , freak out, the chinese are attacking. hope they got good weed

labor- lets make a deal . you remember kevin rudd, he could speak mandarin . please don't hurt us

libs- it's labor's fault

ON- f@ck off you c%nts

katter - i got my shotty and i look cool in my reflecto sunglasses and big hat , so p!ss off . and our kids have been issued with slug guns

[on_one_wheel]

kids with slug guns
The Chinese will be too annoyed to fight effectively

[bigrich]

:lol: kids with slug guns
The Chinese will be too annoyed to fight effectively

or laughing to hard seriously but, 'ole bob katter reckoned a way to get on top of the cane toad problem was to give kids slug guns . might work with the chinese military

i love bob