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Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by jezzab » 13 May 2025, 3:21 pm

I've only been here 6 months, Reddit doesnt really float my boat (but there are a few diamonds in the rough), hate Facebook now days (was a great tool when I needed it business wise and the old days for family connects) and dont use it, and a couple of other forums dont really blow my hair back but I saw this place as a wealth of knowlege and a more "mature" userbase.

I got into firearm ownership later in life (im 45) but did have experiences with them growing up, now its become a necessity where I live and also a sport.

Over the six months I have been on this forum I have had people help me with a plethora of knowlege. They have helped me understand and put up with some of my strange an silly questions and I have even spoken to a couple of the phone. So greatful and I've learned so much and still have much more to learn (the more you know the more you realize you dont know)

BUT...

What the hell is going on now days with few people on here, im seeing:

Passive agressive comments
Sneaky snide comments
Comments on every post after an altrication, deliberately trying to undermind the person they dont agree with
Megalomaniacy
Back peddling with a barrage of irrelevent facts to mask the original answer
Full blown backlash comments

The list goes on....

So, was it always like this? I doubt it based on I see people with 12,000 posts. This isnt the first forum I've been on and I know things happen but this is pretty agressive at the moment by my standards (you should see car forums, its a blood bath. Bitchiest sport every)

If its dick measuring contest then PM em them with a picture against a ruler and be done with it

Anyway, no one probably gives a s**t but its becoming pretty obvious. I thought it was maybe the full moon for a while but we have had 2 or 3 of them now lol
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by Bugman » 13 May 2025, 4:20 pm

Sadly that appears to be the case with some members. I took a break for about a year and came hoping things may have mellowed.
Not the case. I have a great deal of faith in some regular contributors, as, although a shooter, reloader etc for over 50 years, some of the info offered has been welcomed.
Yes, I have gotten my "dander" up on occasions and had a dig at some of the idiots and their comments, but that really was just to vent my frustration. Mostly now I just ignore the dumb minority and move on.
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by womble » 13 May 2025, 4:47 pm

Where’s my ruler when I need it
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by jezzab » 13 May 2025, 4:55 pm

womble wrote:Where’s my ruler when I need it


I use millimetres, always sounds bugger...
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by MG5150 » 13 May 2025, 5:25 pm

Everyone seems to be wound up and agitated and it's spilling from one platform to the other. Facebook has become especially hostile with everyone at eachother's throats all the time for any reason. Tribal mindset from the recent elections is spilling into every other facet of life.
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by Oldbloke » 13 May 2025, 5:34 pm

jezzab wrote:
womble wrote:Where’s my ruler when I need it


I use millimetres, always sounds bugger...



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

How come you know that trick? :lol: :lol:
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by jezzab » 13 May 2025, 5:52 pm

Oldbloke wrote:
jezzab wrote:
womble wrote:Where’s my ruler when I need it


I use millimetres, always sounds bugger...



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

How come you know that trick? :lol: :lol:


I'm not proud of my past haha
This one time at band camp....
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Post by deye243 » 13 May 2025, 6:42 pm

jezzab wrote:
womble wrote:Where’s my ruler when I need it


I use millimetres, always sounds bugger...

Yes the Americans are like that too too have you noticed on these TV shows it's tens of thousands of pounds instead of tones and it's thousands of feet instead of yards they don't like small numbers
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by jezzab » 13 May 2025, 7:04 pm

deye243 wrote:
jezzab wrote:
womble wrote:Where’s my ruler when I need it


I use millimetres, always sounds bugger...

Yes the Americans are like that too too have you noticed on these TV shows it's tens of thousands of pounds instead of tones and it's thousands of feet instead of yards they don't like small numbers


Funny change isn't it, I grew up on Stones since we didn't want _those_ numbers bigger
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by Ballistix » 13 May 2025, 8:10 pm

Seems to be. There are some people who are not constructive, and every thing that you post is an opportunity for them to denigrate.. not everything is zero sum, people can contribute without it being a competition. I don't like the shutting down of ideas before they are fully developed as it prevents a genuine discussion.
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by womble » 14 May 2025, 3:34 am

We need more disciplinary action.

On one wheel and Wapiti. 20 push ups each.

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Post by Oldbloke » 14 May 2025, 7:25 am

It's out of character for On one wheel to get so excited. I'm guessing he isn't well.
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by Wapiti » 14 May 2025, 12:17 pm

womble wrote:We need more disciplinary action.

On one wheel and Wapiti. 20 push ups each.

No I don’t care who started it.


Mate I was just putting forward a idea, an approach and trying to inform others, and contribute innocently to this forum with something different.
Yes, maybe I should've ignored the trolling of not just one of my posts by the same bloke, but a few topics now.

But if I'm belittled, do I have a right to reply?
Ok, next time I'll just leave it alone. I just reacted the same way I would do so in the street.

Oh, and when I see it going on between others, I'll chip in and try and defuse or put things back on track. Check that up too.

So, 20 pushups done, but just to prove a point, I did them decline with my toes on a 400mm high bench press bench.
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by Wapiti » 14 May 2025, 12:18 pm

Wapiti wrote:
womble wrote:We need more disciplinary action.

On one wheel and Wapiti. 20 push ups each.

No I don’t care who started it.


Mate I was just putting forward a idea, an approach and trying to inform others, and contribute innocently to this forum with something different.
Yes, maybe I should've ignored the trolling of not just one of my posts by the same bloke, but a few topics now.

But if I'm belittled, do I have a right to reply?
Ok, next time I'll just leave it alone. I just reacted the same way I would do so in the street.

Oh, and when I see it going on between others, I'll chip in and try and defuse or put things back on track. Check that up too. Edit: I just hate bullies, even on the internet.

So, 20 pushups done, but just to prove a point, I did them decline with my toes on a 400mm high bench press bench.
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by GQshayne » 14 May 2025, 6:56 pm

I reckon that the main issue is discussion of regulations/politics/NSC/Shooters Union etc etc. And when we don't agree, then we disagree LOL. And I think that is reflective of the issues we face, and why we do not have a united front against the anti's.

I don't have the answer, wish I did. It's not a new problem.
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by deye243 » 14 May 2025, 9:11 pm

It's not Primary School and not everybody is well just Harden your skin up a little bit and move on
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Post by womble » 15 May 2025, 4:08 am

GQshayne wrote:I reckon that the main issue is discussion of regulations/politics/NSC/Shooters Union etc etc. And when we don't agree, then we disagree LOL. And I think that is reflective of the issues we face, and why we do not have a united front against the anti's.

I don't have the answer, wish I did. It's not a new problem.


No this is the new plan. We’re all brothers in arms now. I could give you a long list of gun groups and people involved that I dislike heartily.

Irrelevant. You put them first now. Perhaps begrudgingly but nevertheless it’s absolutely necessary now.

What’s happening in WA is coming to us all. No doubts anymore. I don’t think what they’re doing is currently constitutional. But it will be when it’s nationwide. So it’s happening and happening fast.

So yep. Now we advocate for people might personally hate. Including complete idiots. We’re all on the same boat. We need all hands on deck.
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Post by bigrich » 15 May 2025, 4:20 am

jezzab wrote:I've only been here 6 months, Reddit doesnt really float my boat (but there are a few diamonds in the rough), hate Facebook now days (was a great tool when I needed it business wise and the old days for family connects) and dont use it, and a couple of other forums dont really blow my hair back but I saw this place as a wealth of knowlege and a more "mature" userbase.

I got into firearm ownership later in life (im 45) but did have experiences with them growing up, now its become a necessity where I live and also a sport.

Over the six months I have been on this forum I have had people help me with a plethora of knowlege. They have helped me understand and put up with some of my strange an silly questions and I have even spoken to a couple of the phone. So greatful and I've learned so much and still have much more to learn (the more you know the more you realize you dont know)

BUT...

What the hell is going on now days with few people on here, im seeing:

Passive agressive comments
Sneaky snide comments
Comments on every post after an altrication, deliberately trying to undermind the person they dont agree with
Megalomaniacy
Back peddling with a barrage of irrelevent facts to mask the original answer
Full blown backlash comments

The list goes on....

So, was it always like this? I doubt it based on I see people with 12,000 posts. This isnt the first forum I've been on and I know things happen but this is pretty agressive at the moment by my standards (you should see car forums, its a blood bath. Bitchiest sport every)

If its dick measuring contest then PM em them with a picture against a ruler and be done with it

Anyway, no one probably gives a s**t but its becoming pretty obvious. I thought it was maybe the full moon for a while but we have had 2 or 3 of them now lol


i've been on this forum for a few years now , and some past members were far worse than what you've seen recently mate . this forum is the only social media i do , there's some good fellas on here . i've been on a lot of overseas firearms forums and they don't carry on like some on this forum . i actually find it a bit embarrassing at the thought that people from other countries might see this forum and see the childish, nasty carry on that some on here sink to :roll:
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by bigrich » 15 May 2025, 4:25 am

deye243 wrote:It's not Primary School and not everybody is well just Harden your skin up a little bit and move on


i agree , getting sucked into a pointless slanging match of insults should be beneath the principles of men . leave the trolling to teenagers on facebook ;)
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by Die Judicii » 15 May 2025, 8:46 pm

womble wrote:
No this is the new plan. We’re all brothers in arms now. I could give you a long list of gun groups and people involved that I dislike heartily.

Irrelevant. You put them first now. Perhaps begrudgingly but nevertheless it’s absolutely necessary now.

What’s happening in WA is coming to us all. No doubts anymore. I don’t think what they’re doing is currently constitutional. But it will be when it’s nationwide. So it’s happening and happening fast.

So yep. Now we advocate for people might personally hate. Including complete idiots. We’re all on the same boat. We need all hands on deck.


Well said Mate,, :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by 5-0 » 15 May 2025, 10:24 pm

This forum has been dying a slow death for a while, even the owners/admin are AWOL. leaving those left to run amuck. Its barely worth checking every few weeks and when you do you wish you hadn't bothered.
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Post by Wapiti » 16 May 2025, 8:01 am

5-0 wrote:This forum has been dying a slow death for a while, even the owners/admin are AWOL. leaving those left to run amuck. Its barely worth checking every few weeks and when you do you wish you hadn't bothered.


Well, put something up, a topic, a few pics, do your bit.
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Post by Oldbloke » 16 May 2025, 9:25 am

Wapiti wrote:
5-0 wrote:This forum has been dying a slow death for a while, even the owners/admin are AWOL. leaving those left to run amuck. Its barely worth checking every few weeks and when you do you wish you hadn't bothered.


Well, put something up, a topic, a few pics, do your bit.
Contributions make a forum, not criticism.


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Post by Bugman » 16 May 2025, 9:25 am

Wapiti wrote:
5-0 wrote:This forum has been dying a slow death for a while, even the owners/admin are AWOL. leaving those left to run amuck. Its barely worth checking every few weeks and when you do you wish you hadn't bothered.


Well, put something up, a topic, a few pics, do your bit.
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Re: Has it always been this way on this forum?

Post by Oldbloke » 16 May 2025, 9:26 am

I think on many forums, for every poster there are 30 or 40 lookers
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Post by straightshooter » 16 May 2025, 9:48 am

Wapiti wrote:
5-0 wrote:This forum has been dying a slow death for a while, even the owners/admin are AWOL. leaving those left to run amuck. Its barely worth checking every few weeks and when you do you wish you hadn't bothered.


Well, put something up, a topic, a few pics, do your bit.
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Wot?
And be assailed by the types the original poster was complaining about.

Thinks to self......On second thoughts I might give it a try.
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Post by 5-0 » 16 May 2025, 12:02 pm

Wapiti wrote:
5-0 wrote:This forum has been dying a slow death for a while, even the owners/admin are AWOL. leaving those left to run amuck. Its barely worth checking every few weeks and when you do you wish you hadn't bothered.


Well, put something up, a topic, a few pics, do your bit.
Contributions make a forum, not criticism.


Ah yes, because nothing revives a dying forum like telling the handful of stragglers still checking in out of habit to post more content. I’ll grab the defibrillator, you grab the rose-tinted glasses. :drinks:

Pretty sure there’s a DNR taped to the server rack, but hey, let’s keep poking the corpse and see if it twitches.
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Post by bigrich » 16 May 2025, 2:36 pm

5-0 wrote:
Wapiti wrote:
5-0 wrote:This forum has been dying a slow death for a while, even the owners/admin are AWOL. leaving those left to run amuck. Its barely worth checking every few weeks and when you do you wish you hadn't bothered.


Well, put something up, a topic, a few pics, do your bit.
Contributions make a forum, not criticism.


Ah yes, because nothing revives a dying forum like telling the handful of stragglers still checking in out of habit to post more content. I’ll grab the defibrillator, you grab the rose-tinted glasses. :drinks:

Pretty sure there’s a DNR taped to the server rack, but hey, let’s keep poking the corpse and see if it twitches.


:wtf: pretty negative view you've got mate , and when asked to put something up to contribute you respond with snide sarcasm . if this forum isn't to your liking go elsewhere . simples :thumbsup:
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Post by 5-0 » 16 May 2025, 2:47 pm

bigrich wrote:
5-0 wrote:
Wapiti wrote:
5-0 wrote:This forum has been dying a slow death for a while, even the owners/admin are AWOL. leaving those left to run amuck. Its barely worth checking every few weeks and when you do you wish you hadn't bothered.


Well, put something up, a topic, a few pics, do your bit.
Contributions make a forum, not criticism.


Ah yes, because nothing revives a dying forum like telling the handful of stragglers still checking in out of habit to post more content. I’ll grab the defibrillator, you grab the rose-tinted glasses. :drinks:

Pretty sure there’s a DNR taped to the server rack, but hey, let’s keep poking the corpse and see if it twitches.


:wtf: pretty negative view you've got mate , and when asked to put something up to contribute you respond with snide sarcasm . if this forum isn't to your liking go elsewhere . simples :thumbsup:


And there ladies and gentlemen is the reason the forum is a dead man walking. :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by bigrich » 16 May 2025, 7:15 pm

5-0 wrote:
And there ladies and gentlemen is the reason the forum is a dead man walking. :clap: :clap: :clap:


:roll: exactly the response i was expecting after sampling some of your previous posts . if sarcasm and trolling is your thing you'd be better off on facebook mate , or one of the other firearm forums you hold in higher regard . i mean what sort of response did you think you were going to get coming on here and bagging this forum mate :unknown:
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