Getting out of the city and insulating your future freedom

[alexjones]

Where is a lot of the crime?

In the cities. So owning guns as a means of self defence makes most sense in a city so I do not buy that city argument.

I think most people are just communists or communist sympathisers and love to be told what to do and what to think because they lack purpose in their life.

Its is illegal to use a firearm or any weapon to protect yourself in Australia, so that argument is null and void . Add to that, the crime rate in Australia is pretty low, even in city's, well below the OECD average.

I agree and stat's that city's are hold more communists views vs rural. This is shown in that Labor are city based and conversative are rural

It is not illegal to use a gun for self defence anywhere in Australia. Very difficult but not illegal. Queensland actually has case law supporting guns for self defence.

My point was people in cities should support gun laws and making conceal carry legal because the cities is where most of the crime is.

Bondi just had a mass shooting. I bet my life everyone there who was cowering like dogs unable to defend themselves wished concealed carry was legal so they could defend themselves and their family.

Its not legal anywhere in Australia to own or carry a firearm for self defence, you may use one for such, in very rare situations where the law of self defence applies, meaning you believed it was necessary and the response was reasonable in the circumstances. This is very very rare in Australia

The issue is that most city people don't think like you, they have never had access to a firearm, wouldn't know how to use on and don't consider them necessary at all.

In the Bondi situation, they think "call the police" and its the "polices job to handle it" not I wish I had a firearm, this is the thing that you don't understand. They don't think or act like you. hence why the people that bravely acted had grown up or lived in places this wasn't the case.

City people aren't use to relying on themselves, it not a city thing, you have people that do that for you.

Rural and country people are the opposite, you only often have yourself or your neighbours to rely on.

You make a good point about their mindset. So you think the concept of doing things for themselves does not even enter their brain?

I never thought of that. The thought of being reliant on others scares me.

[bigrich]

Where is a lot of the crime?

In the cities. So owning guns as a means of self defence makes most sense in a city so I do not buy that city argument.

I think most people are just communists or communist sympathisers and love to be told what to do and what to think because they lack purpose in their life.

Its is illegal to use a firearm or any weapon to protect yourself in Australia, so that argument is null and void . Add to that, the crime rate in Australia is pretty low, even in city's, well below the OECD average.

I agree and stat's that city's are hold more communists views vs rural. This is shown in that Labor are city based and conversative are rural

It is not illegal to use a gun for self defence anywhere in Australia. Very difficult but not illegal. Queensland actually has case law supporting guns for self defence.

My point was people in cities should support gun laws and making conceal carry legal because the cities is where most of the crime is.

Bondi just had a mass shooting. I bet my life everyone there who was cowering like dogs unable to defend themselves wished concealed carry was legal so they could defend themselves and their family.

Its not legal anywhere in Australia to own or carry a firearm for self defence, you may use one for such, in very rare situations where the law of self defence applies, meaning you believed it was necessary and the response was reasonable in the circumstances. This is very very rare in Australia

The issue is that most city people don't think like you, they have never had access to a firearm, wouldn't know how to use on and don't consider them necessary at all.

In the Bondi situation, they think "call the police" and its the "polices job to handle it" not I wish I had a firearm, this is the thing that you don't understand. They don't think or act like you. hence why the people that bravely acted had grown up or lived in places this wasn't the case.

City people aren't use to relying on themselves, it not a city thing, you have people that do that for you.

Rural and country people are the opposite, you only often have yourself or your neighbours to rely on.

i've read your last couple of posts and your assessment of the changes in australias mindset and culture i think is very accurate

[Wapiti]

All of these laws that are going to be coming in are aimed at the sympathies of the city living people. They are also the ones that are stacking the votes towards the people that want to take away all of your freedoms to think and act for yourself.
You are there solely to be a part of the system, work impossibly hard, never get ahead unless you're on of the "elite" (I f**ken hate that term, it should be parasite) and die.

It is a shame that the city just sees the country as something to use, and the country only sees the disrespect, ignorance and sheep-mentality of the city box livers. I wish it wasn't that way.
When I first came out here, I was put in that category. All around me were suspicious of me and waiting to see me prove myself. Now, people call on me for help because I've proven I'm part of them. It is a real shame to hear the opinions of rural people out here reacting to the majority-city opinions to ban all guns like Minns and Albanese are using to cover their inadequacies in leadership, many feel completely backstabbed by all this and some are saying, good, take the guns off the city freeloaders and we will have less poaching, theft and trespassing to worry about.
I find that really disappointing because when we are separated deliberately by politicians, we all are easy to screw over.

That's what this is all about, segregating and boxing people apart to break them up and make them unable to join together to stop this political rot that is ruining our country.
City people won't live under towering wind turbines, because that's political suicide. Look at the faces of the Teal scum when Barnaby Joyce said, we'll rollover when Sydney's beaches host half the turbines.
City dwellers are the majority-bulk blindfolded gimme-gimme types that fall for all the pre-election lies.
Country folk, farmers mainly, are spread far and wide and their votes in elections never go their way, because they are the voting minority
Again, divide and conquer.

You guys that, unfortunately, think it's too hard, even impossible, to get away from that terrible rat race but say you'd love to, are doing yourselves an injustice. And selling yourselves short. Some of you guys are very good at making things happen, it's just a matter of wanting to do it hard enough. It won't be too long at it will all be too late.

[bigrich]

All of these laws that are going to be coming in are aimed at the sympathies of the city living people. They are also the ones that are stacking the votes towards the people that want to take away all of your freedoms to think and act for yourself.
You are there solely to be a part of the system, work impossibly hard, never get ahead unless you're on of the "elite" (I f**ken hate that term, it should be parasite) and die.

It is a shame that the city just sees the country as something to use, and the country only sees the disrespect, ignorance and sheep-mentality of the city box livers. I wish it wasn't that way.
When I first came out here, I was put in that category. All around me were suspicious of me and waiting to see me prove myself. Now, people call on me for help because I've proven I'm part of them. It is a real shame to hear the opinions of rural people out here reacting to the majority-city opinions to ban all guns like Minns and Albanese are using to cover their inadequacies in leadership, many feel completely backstabbed by all this and some are saying, good, take the guns off the city freeloaders and we will have less poaching, theft and trespassing to worry about.
I find that really disappointing because when we are separated deliberately by politicians, we all are easy to screw over.

That's what this is all about, segregating and boxing people apart to break them up and make them unable to join together to stop this political rot that is ruining our country.
City people won't live under towering wind turbines, because that's political suicide. Look at the faces of the Teal scum when Barnaby Joyce said, we'll rollover when Sydney's beaches host half the turbines.
City dwellers are the majority-bulk blindfolded gimme-gimme types that fall for all the pre-election lies.
Country folk, farmers mainly, are spread far and wide and their votes in elections never go their way, because they are the voting minority
Again, divide and conquer.

You guys that, unfortunately, think it's too hard, even impossible, to get away from that terrible rat race but say you'd love to, are doing yourselves an injustice. And selling yourselves short. Some of you guys are very good at making things happen, it's just a matter of wanting to do it hard enough. It won't be too long at it will all be too late.

pretty accurate post mate . on the upside , me living where i'm living, i'm try to educate and "win hearts and minds" working on the inside . i've been saying to people lately when the conversation turns to gun numbers . i explain that some gun owners are a collector who may have 30 old military rifles (or more), don't really shoot them much or keep ammo for them . who's scarier, the old bloke with 30 guns, or the terrorist with one illegal assault rifle . makes a lot off people think...

[alexjones]

See this clip? Police earning the hate.

Not sure of the state but police in Australia went to this blokes door to talk to him about internet posts he made. He tells them to bugger off as they have no warrant.

I have no idea what he said on his post nor do I care but he can say what he likes so long as he is not threatening anybody. And we know he was not threatening anybody or the police would of arrested him instead of showing up for a chat.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DS34hq5EXjA/?l=1

[bigrich]

See this clip? Police earning the hate.

Not sure of the state but police in Australia went to this blokes door to talk to him about internet posts he made. He tells them to bugger off as they have no warrant.

I have no idea what he said on his post nor do I care but he can say what he likes so long as he is not threatening anybody. And we know he was not threatening anybody or the police would of arrested him instead of showing up for a chat.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DS34hq5EXjA/?l=1

it's good people like the guy in the clip are speaking out . i however will never treat a police officer badly for doing their job . you want to hate something hate the laws and the politicians that make them

[Terraincognita]

Where is a lot of the crime?

In the cities. So owning guns as a means of self defence makes most sense in a city so I do not buy that city argument.

I think most people are just communists or communist sympathisers and love to be told what to do and what to think because they lack purpose in their life.

Hahahaha mate your comments are ****** funny.
Yes we all know Communism is Cancer.

[Wapiti]

Nothing I'm saying, for example, is promoting violence, or inciting anyone to do anything. Not even a suggestion.
The only suggestion I'm making in print is for people to wake up and stop voting blindly, following the past, because the past is long gone, and it MUST be obvious to all now, surely?

One thing is for sure, if you hide under the blanket from fear of the dark, the fake boogie man wins.
Just have a look at the news outlets who post on YouTube for example, and 99% of thousands of comments are calling for Albanese and Minns to blow away in the next strong wind, putting it mildly.