My Last Roll...a thread about survival...

[bigrich]

i've got plenty of old newspaper saved up , i'm just gunna dig a whole in the backyard .... should be good for the lawn

wouldn't want to block my sewerage system, newspaper isn't good for it . it amazes me some of the younger generation's responses , i give them a lesson in history , ww1 & 2 , food and petrol rationing , past epidemics like polio and the spanish flu of 1919 . australia was once a country of colonials and pioneers , a lot of todays generation are reliant on mac donalds for their dinner

[Ziege]

Mate I've found that most foreigners here in cities, Aussie who've been bred in the city and people like my ex's family from England, can't function without packet foods, just look at what they take as survival food, none of it is seasonings/pantry items to accompany grown or harvested food, it's all packet ready made stuff and they usually have none of the provisions to make food from natural sources.

My ex InLaws literally never eat anything that isn't pre-made in a packet, usually oven baked precooked stuff like pies and crumbed chicken or microwave meals, they once threw out 3 lovely Norwest snapper that my dad gave them because when they tried to "peel" one they were both nearly throwing up.... This people is what we are attempting to coexist with.

[TassieTiger]

I took some ppl camping a little while back and there were no formal toilets.
After walking into the bush with a shovel and supplies, a couple of ppl came back, packed up and left, after telling me how disgusting it was expecting them to take a dump in the bush.

[Stix]

Yea Zeige...!!

Its a mind set thing...people are literally stupid...!!...next time tell them silly poms ill help them out & trade some superb quality Aldi fish fingers for some of that disgusting pretend snapper crap that is otherwise called "nannygai"...but only because im an incredibly empathetic being...

Ive had people that wont even take lamb or sheep(mutton) when ive offered it up straight from a farmer....incredibly better tasting & superbly reliable (quality wise) than anything you'll get in the local major city supermarket, but they dont want it if it comes direct from the farm...

They are for some reason dubious about it...distrusting...its nuts...!!

Doesnt matter that i explain it will come stamped & legal, then have to explain that process to them-- they have a look on their face as if im trying to convince them to eat a pie shaped pastry wrapped pile of local cat turd...

In any case...
I cant help but think (im pretty much convinced actually) this virus thing is an economic reset for the western world...

Just hope ive got enough bullets to last me so i can hunt my toilet paper until supplies get back to normal...
Starting to think ill have to go pitch a tent near a rabbit infested wheat crop & take my 22 & mortar n pestle with me so i can get some dunny paper & flour... !!!

[CrackThump]

Tassie.. count yourself lucly to be rid of "friends" like that hahahaha..

[Ziege]

Yea Zeige...!!

Its a mind set thing...people are literally stupid...!!...next time tell them silly poms ill help them out & trade some superb quality Aldi fish fingers for some of that disgusting pretend snapper crap that is otherwise called "nannygai"...but only because im an incredibly empathetic being...

Ive had people that wont even take lamb or sheep(mutton) when ive offered it up straight from a farmer....incredibly better tasting & superbly reliable (quality wise) than anything you'll get in the local major city supermarket, but they dont want it if it comes direct from the farm...

They are for some reason dubious about it...distrusting...its nuts...!!

Doesnt matter that i explain it will come stamped & legal, then have to explain that process to them-- they have a look on their face as if im trying to convince them to eat a pie shaped pastry wrapped pile of local cat turd...

In any case...
I cant help but think (im pretty much convinced actually) this virus thing is an economic reset for the western world...

Just hope ive got enough bullets to last me so i can hunt my toilet paper until supplies get back to normal...
Starting to think ill have to go pitch a tent near a rabbit infested wheat crop & take my 22 & mortar n pestle with me so i can get some dunny paper & flour... !!!

Oh ye benevolent one, whose empathy is unrivalled haha...


Yes so so stupid, honestly, I stocked up on pantry items this weekend gone as well as plenty of 22lr and 12G so hopefully tides us over for the foreseeable, if I run out of explosive ammo the compound bows and snares and traps will be coming out, ducks are always easy targets with a bit of bread on a hook+string.

All in all I am not that bothered, it's so stupid that people can't get it through their heads not to go into places loaded with other plebs.

[Blr243]

I have heard of people who go camping and don’t like the idea of doing a number two in the bush. They just can’t. So they don’t. And they save it the whole week end Until they find a service station on the way home. I don’t know how that is physically possible....

[bigrich]

I took some ppl camping a little while back and there were no formal toilets.
After walking into the bush with a shovel and supplies, a couple of ppl came back, packed up and left, after telling me how disgusting it was expecting them to take a dump in the bush.

good god , folks like this aren't of the anzac/kokoda/light horse mould that's for sure . i'm suburban bound, but i went bush fishing and hunting when i was a kid . it wasn't too hard to find in south east qld forty years ago . once you got half hour south of brisbane it was farmland and forest for 45 mins till you hit the north end of the gold coast , nothing over two story motels back then . it looks like a mini version of miami now , with all the superficial plastic people to go with it

[Ziege]

I have heard of people who go camping and don’t like the idea of doing a number two in the bush. They just can’t. So they don’t. And they save it the whole week end Until they find a service station on the way home. I don’t know how that is physically possible....

Dated this absolutely gorgeous pommy chick once, her voice was light and whispy and her eyes were the most vibrant blue and she had this amazing pocket rocket figure, but after a trip away where she refused to wash in the creek/ocean for 3 whole weeks and so just didn't wash our relationship was over by the time we made it back to civilization, I even made her sit in the back on the passenger side of the car as her BO was beyond offensive

[bigrich]

I have heard of people who go camping and don’t like the idea of doing a number two in the bush. They just can’t. So they don’t. And they save it the whole week end Until they find a service station on the way home. I don’t know how that is physically possible....

takes the term "anal retentive" to new levels .......

[bigrich]

https://youtu.be/Jdf5EXo6I68

under advisement from stix, i put this on the wrong topic before . it's dark humor, but i think fitting for the current situation

[Tiger650]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJZuZzU2Vsg

[bigrich]

good stuff taz

[Bruiser64]

I am on my way home to WA and just about to enter SA. I am expecting that we will be allowed to get home on the condition we self isolate for 14 days.

Well I got that wrong. It has been announced they wont actually let people into WA after 1.30pm this Tuesday. I await with considerable interest the details of how this is intended to work. Apparently even permanent WA residents will be stopped at Eucla and made to “self isolate” for 14 days. I am curious how this will be defined. A complication is the fact they don’t have potable water at Eucla. The police commissioner recommended people stay where they are if they cant safely beat the deadline. Really? How? What evidence will they accept that you have self isolated (once a definition has been formalised)? So can a person self isolate away from the border and then happily trundle through it?

[Stix]

I took some ppl camping a little while back and there were no formal toilets.
After walking into the bush with a shovel and supplies, a couple of ppl came back, packed up and left, after telling me how disgusting it was expecting them to take a dump in the bush.

LMAO...lucky i wasnt there...its fun flinging mud at people like that... ...


Mind you...ive always hated doing over a log or squatting with pants around ankles...either my feet get a bit wet, or the back of my pants do...OR BOTH...!



I go in style now...a couple of off-cuts of spotted gum decking sitting on the fridge stand i got with my wako, give me enough comfort to be able to look at all the pics from the last days hunt---just like reading the paper, only with Galah's in the backround & some ventillation running through the bushy crevice...

[Stix]

I am on my way home to WA and just about to enter SA. I am expecting that we will be allowed to get home on the condition we self isolate for 14 days

Well I got that wrong. It has been announced they wont actually let people into WA after 1.30pm this Tuesday. I await with considerable interest the details of how this is intended to work. Apparently even permanent WA residents will be stopped at Eucla and made to “self isolate” for 14 days. I am curious how this will be defined. A complication is the fact they don’t have potable water at Eucla. The police commissioner recommended people stay where they are if they cant safely beat the deadline. Really? How? What evidence will they accept that you have self isolated (once a definition has been formalised)? So can a person self isolate away from the border and then happily trundle through it?

Sounds to me like a strange government with strange regulations...

Can you imagine what the gun laws would be like in a state that comes up with ideas like that...

As long as that other nomad clown from the other day gets back through its ok...you can stay bruiser...

Did you bring your 204...?
Might go look for some foxes this weekend...

[Stix]

I have heard of people who go camping and don’t like the idea of doing a number two in the bush. They just can’t. So they don’t. And they save it the whole week end Until they find a service station on the way home. I don’t know how that is physically possible....

...im with you there BLR...

Although... ...let me tell you a little tale... ...not one to read while eating your porrige either..lets pretend weve all had a few beers & sitt'n around the fire eh... .lol..

Away on a fishing trip once, thankfully staying in someones house...(phew')...

Well, someone (that would be me), was for some reason a little constipated...hadnt been for the entire day prior...didnt go for the best part of 4 or 5 or so bloody days...

Then...well then...this one night...the lady of the house cooked a curry...a green thai fish curry...one hot enough to vaporise half the concrete in Bangkok...!!

Few hours later, it was bed time...i was so bloody uncomfortable--not from the curry---just from, well, life...or the part of it that wasnt shifting...you see i am the biggest eater ive ever known, so you can inagine the discomfort im in... were heading for 5-6 days straight...

Get into bed & cant sleep...tossing...turning...then i felt a little 'shift' in the discomfort...
Got up...glass of water...back to bed...then BINGO...

A bloody tectonic plate shifted beneath me & the quake was on its way...!!

Well the birth mother of our universe had nothin on what was about to happen...!!!...

With the momentum of a huge freight train, the lower bow of a thousand year old redgum came hurtling into existance...i swear it dam near lifted me off the seat as the bloody thing stubbornly refused to snap off...

Anyway...they were on septic...and you guessed it...aint no way that rocket booster sized lump of dense carbon was gonna quietly navigate its way through that little bend without flattening the town in its wake...

AAahhh... suffice to say, i was a very jovial person on the boat the next day...like id been born again...i truly felt marvelous...!!!

[Ziege]

Hahahahaha

Hahaha oh dear, Stix you worded that a little too well haha

Side are killing me

[Sergeant Hartman]

Ahh that's why i love your posts mate... defiantly bring a smile

[wanneroo]

I wonder how many countries may be headed for martial law. In the US what would that look like? Would guns be taken away from the people? Would people push back against the government? Interesting times.

We have 400 million guns, so good luck. I think the US consumer market for ammunition is 8 billion rounds a year.

When our state governor said he demanded all non essential business close, there was tremendous push back and they are now on their third updated list of who can stay open. And pretty much the cops said they've got no interest or time in enforcing it. A lot of businesses told the gov to go pound sand.

The other thing to consider is most of the people in government that have guns are on our side.

[wanneroo]

Marksman... in reply to your question about my post.

I am saying is that everyone will probably end up getting it over the next few years. Let me explain, so tomorrow Australia has got it under control, no more cases. We will eventually need to open our borders, and then what, it just take someone from any country in the world that still has this virus to come here and the cycle starts again. Or worse is if say a person from country A travels to via Dubai or Singapore to country B. But infects an Australian returning from UK (which lets assume is virus free), it takes a week for the aussie to show symptoms until then hes infected other people.... and the cycle repeats.

Until a vaccine is made, this will continue, after the vaccine is made everyone will have a weak form of the virus in their bodies.

To develop heard immunity you need to have 60-70% of the population exposed to the virus either by direct exposure or vaccines. With a population of 25 Million, that is 15million coronavirus infected people in Australia. Those who bunker up now, let's say for 18 months... very likely will get coronavirus when they get back into community.... unless they get vaccinated.


Now look at what the politicians and health experts are saying, they want to flatten the curve. No one is saying they want to kill or completely stop the virus. So what does flatten the curve mean?

Look at Italy, the health system is stretched beyond the max, people are on beds in hospital corridors. but no space in ICU, in makeshift tents etc, thereby aren't enough ventilators.

So what the health authorities want to do is slow down the spread of the virus to enable our health system to be able to look after not only the covid patients but the normal everyday patients that it looks after. They don't want to have to come to a time where they are faced with a choice to take a 70 year old covid patient off a ventilator in ICU (and very likely sign their death cert) to put a 30 year old on who might or might not have coronavirus.

Edited for clarity..i hope

Well as an epidemiologist explained to me, successful viruses mutate and weaken over time. Those that kill or incapacitate their host have a harder time propagating. Already this virus mutated by February and has probably already mutated again and will continue to do so especially with it's quick spread worldwide. 6 to 12 to 18 months now things will be different.

I'm not a big believer they will have a safe vaccine anytime soon so the answer right now is developing therapeutic meds for use if you get it. The key thing you want to avoid with this is developing pneumonia. Get your Vitamin D as Vit D has been show to help with respiratory function and fighting off infection.

[wanneroo]

Its all gone back to normal where I live in perth.It was a bit strange though

What do you call normal? Looks like WA is matching QLD in the stupid department.
https://www.channelnews.com.au/breaking ... all-ports/
And one of your pollies was on the idiot box the other day telling people that now is the time to be with their families and get their affairs together, like he's telling everyone their gonna cark it.

Just went to Woolworths and its all back to normal

The fatality rate on this is way over inflated due to the lack of extensive testing. Only the people with the most serious symptoms are getting tested, hence a lot of people with no or minor symptoms do not. I look at a lot of hard data on this and try to ignore most media as they are pretty useless.

I think in the end we will find the panic and hysteria from the government and media will cause more widespread damage to society than the actual virus.

[Gamerancher]

"I think in the end we will find the panic and hysteria from the government and media will cause more widespread damage to society than the actual virus."
wanneroo

Too right there brother.
One of our governments stimulus "solutions" so far has been to give those that already don't work more money. ???

[bigrich]

"I think in the end we will find the panic and hysteria from the government and media will cause more widespread damage to society than the actual virus."
wanneroo

Too right there brother.
One of our governments stimulus "solutions" so far has been to give those that already don't work more money. ???

yeh, i don't get why newstart is being doubled. i know it's not much , but these folks are already surviving on it , sharing accomidation and public housing . it's the currently employed, soon to be unemployed , with mortages and familys to feed that are going to need it more . the governments support of small business ability to pay wages is good....tough times ahead methinks

[Ziege]

yeh, i don't get why newstart is being doubled. i know it's not much , but these folks are already surviving on it , sharing accomidation and public housing . it's the currently employed, soon to be unemployed , with mortages and familys to feed that are going to need it more . the governments support of small business ability to pay wages is good....tough times ahead methinks

I know why they do it, they want to stimulate the economy, wage earners and people on salaries are far less likely to blow their money on useless s**t from retailers, this means that giving the lowest socio economic demographic the money both aids in making them look charitable and also pushes money through the retail sector and fast food/take away sector.

[Gamerancher]

So, the unproductive unemployed folks who are already getting by, get a doubling of income. Meanwhile, the formerly productive worker, who finds themselves out of a job with mortgage payments and general cost of living expenses way beyond what "newstart" would cover, loses everything. Their superannuation will be decimated by the panic caused losses in the share-market, so generally, they're screwed.

[Ziege]

So, the unproductive unemployed folks who are already getting by, get a doubling of income. Meanwhile, the formerly productive worker, who finds themselves out of a job with mortgage payments and general cost of living expenses way beyond what "newstart" would cover, loses everything. Their superannuation will be decimated by the panic caused losses in the share-market, so generally, they're screwed.

Super is a gamble, it's a fools idea of retirement, it's uninsured and it's really theft when you think about it, the government mandates all wage and salary earners pay into it at a rate of 9% to what? Give your money to gamblers who have no obligation whatsoever to reimburse you. To hell with it, it's a mugs game, and relying on it for retirement makes you a mug

[Gamerancher]

I'm talking in broader general terms not personal. The average wage earner in the private sector generally has their compulsory super put into whatever plan their employer, ( or union ), finds convenient. They're usually pretty indifferent to it with little or no regard to how it is invested until they get a letter telling them that the $100 grand they thought they had has now tuned into $30k.

[Am88]

Im lucky, just scored a .5kg tub each of 2208 and 2206H, a box of interlocks for the .308 and a box of super roos, that will last me a dam while with the 2207 I have at home already.

[wanneroo]

"I think in the end we will find the panic and hysteria from the government and media will cause more widespread damage to society than the actual virus."
wanneroo

Too right there brother.
One of our governments stimulus "solutions" so far has been to give those that already don't work more money. ???

Keep in mind government always wants a lot of people to be fat, dumb and lazy, more power and control for them. Those people are always going to get the goodies before those that actually paid for them.