mickb wrote:alexjones wrote:A lot of people forget that the Rothschild's funded both the British and the French during the Napoleonic wars as well as starting the war of 1812. Big business makes a lot of money in times of war.
Pretty much. The US is the worlds largest current arms dealer, they outsell the next top 5 countries combined( Russia, UK, China, France etc).
Not that I am a russian sympathiser being when I joined the army they were still the enemy USSR but its sought of laughable the public outcry about the ukraine situation when the yanks are selling arms to 105 countries and half of them are human rights abusers. None of the continuious African wars or rebel fruitcakes would even start without western powers money, they wouldnt even be able to keep their jeeps fuelled for a whole day.
NATO has also scuttled more countries than any other group since the British empire. They call it a war against xyz but its just a bombing campaign to scare the bad guys into the hills, then we set up shop and move resources out of the place, and the bad guys never get killed because if you do you dont have a reason to be there anymore, The old style of winning was win fast, implant your culture and get them drinking tea and playing cricket. Now no one actually wants the country so you draw out the war for 5,10, 20 years like a long term cash cow.
Afghan, Iraq, now the ukraine, billionaires on both sides making major bank on this, and you and I paying $9.50 for a can of deodorant
I especially love the idea of the trade sanctions they put on Russia, Trade sanctions are meant to be weaponised finance, aka cripple the target country, make your position stronger. So far all these have done is screw western economy. Maybe someone needs to send these NATO bosses a fkn calculator and say take a look at the numbers, you hit the wrong side.
Lazarus wrote:Surprise, surprise
The "Big Lie" in action
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-26/ ... tent=other
mchughcb wrote:Whoever they are, they aren't the brightest tools in the shed. All of them caught and the cell too in less than a day.
Plenty are still dying as a result of their injuries. Some countries just can't bring themselves to give their condolences.
alexjones wrote:Lazarus wrote:Surprise, surprise
The "Big Lie" in action
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-26/ ... tent=other
Maybe, or maybe not.
I am led to believe it is not an islamist militant attack for the reason that it does not fit the motivate of islamic attacks. They always kill themselves or not allow themselves to be taken alive. Look at all their attacks in the past that is how they do it. That only leaves the option of America, Ukraine or Russia being responsible.
alexjones wrote:I am not a bleeding heart communist but there is a correlation between low IQ and crime. Often times they are manipulated by people of higher IQ in committing these acts because low IQ people are easy to control. It is rather tragic.
mchughcb wrote:I'd be more worried that Israel just bombed the Iran embassy or the building next to it in Syria.
If they are wanting to unite the Arabs they are going about it the right way.
mchughcb wrote:I'd be more worried that Israel just bombed the Iran embassy or the building next to it in Syria.
If they are wanting to unite the Arabs they are going about it the right way.
alexjones wrote:I am not a bleeding heart communist but there is a correlation between low IQ and crime. Often times they are manipulated by people of higher IQ in committing these acts because low IQ people are easy to control. It is rather tragic.
alexjones wrote:I am not a bleeding heart communist but there is a correlation between low IQ and crime. Often times they are manipulated by people of higher IQ in committing these acts because low IQ people are easy to control. It is rather tragic.
Lazarus wrote:It's well past time the world address what the Israelis have been doing in Palestine.
Israel has been hiding behind their "martyrdom" in WW2 to commit war crimes and genocide for decades.
Their latest crime, directly, deliberately targeting aid workers, after being told their vehicles would be on the "safe route" given them by the IDF, after coordinating the aforesaid movement of their clearly marked vehicles with them.
The pictures show the brightly painted logo on the roof of each vehicle, and the penetration point of precision munitions, showing they were deliberately and accurately targeted.
Israel is a criminal, terrorist nation and should be treat as such.
The Israeli government claims that it was a "misidentification due to the darkness", a strange claim given their ability to put a missile in someone's window, at night, at will.
The far right Netanyahu government is hell bent on destroying the remnants of the people they've dispossessed, and America is eagerly aiding their genocidal satellite.
It is true that Hamas' bizarre terrorist attack is definitely the catalyst for the latest atrocities committed by Israel, but how can anyone, even Israel worshipping Americans, maintain that killing over 31,000 innocent Palestinian women and children, over 140 aid workers and 96 journalists is a valid, proportionate response to the murder of 1400.
Lazarus wrote:You strike me as a reasonably intelligent person alexjones, do you see 65,000+ innocent, civilian casualties as a proportionate response?
Do you see the total destruction of the remaining territory not stolen by Israel as reasonable?
You are aware, are you not, that Hamas is NOT the legitimate government of the remnant of Palestine?
The Palestinian Authority was elected by the Palestinian public, Hamas took power by force.
The people being murdered by Israel right this second are no more guilty of the October 7 attacks than the Israelis who died in it.
Israel has a long and shameful history of overreaction, and nazi-esque retribution for any Palestinian action against, and let's not lose sight of the most important part, the Europeans of Hebrew descent who were arbitrarily given their country by an occupying third party.
A third party with no right, other than force of arms, to do so.
It's high time we stopped being shy of the automatic antisemitism furphy used to excuse every criminal act of Israel.
Finally, if 31,000 dead women, children, and other totally innocent parties is not enough for you as revenge for 1400, just how many more innocents have to be murdered to satisfy you?
alexjones wrote:Lazarus wrote:You strike me as a reasonably intelligent person alexjones, do you see 65,000+ innocent, civilian casualties as a proportionate response?
Do you see the total destruction of the remaining territory not stolen by Israel as reasonable?
You are aware, are you not, that Hamas is NOT the legitimate government of the remnant of Palestine?
The Palestinian Authority was elected by the Palestinian public, Hamas took power by force.
The people being murdered by Israel right this second are no more guilty of the October 7 attacks than the Israelis who died in it.
Israel has a long and shameful history of overreaction, and nazi-esque retribution for any Palestinian action against, and let's not lose sight of the most important part, the Europeans of Hebrew descent who were arbitrarily given their country by an occupying third party.
A third party with no right, other than force of arms, to do so.
It's high time we stopped being shy of the automatic antisemitism furphy used to excuse every criminal act of Israel.
Finally, if 31,000 dead women, children, and other totally innocent parties is not enough for you as revenge for 1400, just how many more innocents have to be murdered to satisfy you?
War is not fun and games. It should not be undertaken lightly but when it does occur there should be no fluffing around. I don't see it as a matter of revenge I see it as completion of their(Israel's) desired war goals. Regardless of everything that happened before the attack(that may of even in some capacity contributed to it) Israel's war goals is the destruction of Hamas. Everything else in accomplishing that goal is collateral damage and to them is acceptable.
Remember WW2? More civilians died than combatants did by a huge factor. Civilians die in war, it is just the nature of it.
I am but alas a man in Queensland who does not care what happens on a stretch of land on the other side of the world that is smaller than the farm I grew up on.
However violence begets violence so for every kid that has had his parents killed in a drone strike or blast he is just going to grow up and continue the cycle of violence. So no side is going to be the winner here. All that will happen is more and more violence.
Lazarus wrote:
Their latest crime, directly, deliberately targeting aid workers, after being told their vehicles would be on the "safe route" given them by the IDF, after coordinating the aforesaid movement of their clearly marked vehicles with them.
The pictures show the brightly painted logo on the roof of each vehicle, and the penetration point of precision munitions, showing they were deliberately and accurately targeted.
The Israeli government claims that it was a "misidentification due to the darkness", a strange claim given their ability to put a missile in someone's window, at night, at will.
It is true that Hamas' bizarre terrorist attack is definitely the catalyst for the latest atrocities committed by Israel, but how can anyone, even Israel worshipping Americans, maintain that killing over 31,000 innocent Palestinian women and children, over 140 aid workers and 96 journalists is a valid, proportionate response to the murder of 1400.
the Messenger of Allah said:
"it is not lawful to lie except in three cases: Something the man tells his wife to please her, to lie during war, and to lie in order to bring peace between the people."
https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:1939
Lazarus wrote:
You are aware, are you not, that Hamas is NOT the legitimate government of the remnant of Palestine?
The Palestinian Authority was elected by the Palestinian public, Hamas took power by force.
Finally, if 31,000 dead women, children, and other totally innocent parties is not enough for you as revenge for 1400, just how many more innocents have to be murdered to satisfy you?
Looters strip Gaza greenhouses
Sept. 14, 2005
Palestinians looted dozens of greenhouses on Tuesday, walking off with irrigation hoses, water pumps and plastic sheeting in a blow to fledgling efforts to reconstruct the Gaza Strip.
American Jewish donors had bought more than 3,000 greenhouses from Israeli settlers in Gaza for $14 million last month and transferred them to the Palestinian Authority. Former World Bank President James Wolfensohn, who brokered the deal, put up $500,000 of his own cash.
Palestinian police stood by helplessly Tuesday as looters carted off materials from greenhouses in several settlements, and commanders complained they did not have enough manpower to protect the prized assets. In some instances, there was no security and in others, police even joined the looters, witnesses said.
The failure of the security forces to prevent scavenging and looting in the settlements after Israel’s troop pullout Monday raised new concerns about Gaza’s future.
The greenhouses are a centerpiece of Palestinian plans for rebuilding Gaza after 38 years of Israeli occupation. The Palestinian Authority hopes the high-tech greenhouses left by the Israelis will provide jobs and export income for Gaza’s shattered economy.
During a tour of Neve Dekalim, Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia implored Palestinians to leave the structures intact. “These greenhouses are for the Palestinian people,” he said. “We don’t want anyone to touch or harm anything that can be useful for our people.”
The Palestinian leader is under intense pressure from his people and the international community to stop the growing lawlessness in Gaza, where rival militant groups are jockeying for power. As Abbas spoke, hundreds of masked Hamas gunmen wielding rifles and grenade launchers paraded through the streets of a nearby refugee camp.
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna9331863
EXPOSING HAMAS:
Hamas senior leader Hamad, while visiting Nigeria, meticulously lists every detail of civilian casualties in Gaza.
When asked about Hamas fighter casualty numbers, his response:
“I don’t know what the number of Hamas fighters were killed… the situation is an area of war… no one can count, no one can know, no one can make an investigation…”
https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/1760376676733591633
Baronvonrort wrote:Lazarus wrote:
You are aware, are you not, that Hamas is NOT the legitimate government of the remnant of Palestine?
The Palestinian Authority was elected by the Palestinian public, Hamas took power by force.
Finally, if 31,000 dead women, children, and other totally innocent parties is not enough for you as revenge for 1400, just how many more innocents have to be murdered to satisfy you?
Hamas won the election to govern Gaza they haven't had any elections since then.
Egypt controlled Gaza up to 1967 when they lost it to Israel in the 6 or 7 day war.
Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005 they even removed Jewish graves and relocated them into Israel every Jew left in 2005. Israel left millions of dollars worth of Hydroponic greenhouses when they withdrew from Gaza.Looters strip Gaza greenhouses
Sept. 14, 2005
Palestinians looted dozens of greenhouses on Tuesday, walking off with irrigation hoses, water pumps and plastic sheeting in a blow to fledgling efforts to reconstruct the Gaza Strip.
American Jewish donors had bought more than 3,000 greenhouses from Israeli settlers in Gaza for $14 million last month and transferred them to the Palestinian Authority. Former World Bank President James Wolfensohn, who brokered the deal, put up $500,000 of his own cash.
Palestinian police stood by helplessly Tuesday as looters carted off materials from greenhouses in several settlements, and commanders complained they did not have enough manpower to protect the prized assets. In some instances, there was no security and in others, police even joined the looters, witnesses said.
The failure of the security forces to prevent scavenging and looting in the settlements after Israel’s troop pullout Monday raised new concerns about Gaza’s future.
The greenhouses are a centerpiece of Palestinian plans for rebuilding Gaza after 38 years of Israeli occupation. The Palestinian Authority hopes the high-tech greenhouses left by the Israelis will provide jobs and export income for Gaza’s shattered economy.
During a tour of Neve Dekalim, Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia implored Palestinians to leave the structures intact. “These greenhouses are for the Palestinian people,” he said. “We don’t want anyone to touch or harm anything that can be useful for our people.”
The Palestinian leader is under intense pressure from his people and the international community to stop the growing lawlessness in Gaza, where rival militant groups are jockeying for power. As Abbas spoke, hundreds of masked Hamas gunmen wielding rifles and grenade launchers paraded through the streets of a nearby refugee camp.
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna9331863
This X account is good for updates on Ukraine/Russia along with Israel.
EXPOSING HAMAS:
Hamas senior leader Hamad, while visiting Nigeria, meticulously lists every detail of civilian casualties in Gaza.
When asked about Hamas fighter casualty numbers, his response:
“I don’t know what the number of Hamas fighters were killed… the situation is an area of war… no one can count, no one can know, no one can make an investigation…”
https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/1760376676733591633
Does anyone think it's strange Hamas can detail every woman child medical worker and journalist killed yet when it comes to numbers of Hamas fighters killed they have no idea.
Those who are older might recall the BS from Baghdad Bob in the first Iraq war nothing has changed in reporting from their side.