My Last Roll...a thread about survival...

[Sergeant Hartman]

Marksman mate it's a scary video... but where is it taken.. and are you sure its cronavirus and not swine flu or something else, swine flu is common in India and Asian countries and it effects children and older people.

So with respect mate, unless you can confirm 100% the source of the video... only thing you are doing is scaring yourself unnecessarily.

But still whatever it is looks pretty fkn scary.



Stix, mate you are confused this is not the gun store thread. Anyway went to Aldi today.. to buy an AC... they had a pallet full of hand towel rolls (paper, kitchen ones)

[Sergeant Hartman]

And stix while you are looking for your bog roll... maybe find a couple of minutes to listen to this.

https://youtu.be/8KPbJ0-DxTc

Bloody brilliant i say

[Stix]

I didnt get through it all ziad, but thats pretty funny...

No im not confused...i did it on puropse...you lot continually switch the gun shop/ammo availability thread to disagreements about the virus dangers,, & fill it with links to back up your claims, despite many attempts to keep it on topic...
Peoples experiences arent of interest, its just an "linfo ink-off"...

Anyway...all i can say is, things are pretty sad when, despite from the highest levels, people are still going out & clearing out toilet paper on a daily basis.
And that "Married at first sight was the best program on TV last night...
I was arguing with the stoopid psychologists that dont know the basic fundamentals of human behaviour...

I can tell you this tho...ill be in trouble if we get in complete lockdown...cos being single, ill be buggered if i can sit in these walls by myself & do housework, with guns & a heap of ammo sitting there that i cant shoot.
Ill be loading up the car & heading out of town...ill probably be headline news...
"Rabbit shooter gone mad refuses to stay in the city, with 30 state police cars chasing him down the freeway he refuses to stop...says he just wants to go shooting a few bunnies & test some loads..."..LMAO

[TassieTiger]

They won’t chase you mate...they don’t have numbers lol.
It was reported today, that there were over 40 break and entries last night in Hobart - up from the night previous - police did not respond to a large number due to manpower.
This is what really concerns me...ppl don’t have security of $$$, don’t know where their next meal is coming from, some are getting desperate...thing is - these break ins are at houses where they know people are 99% at home...obviously.

MM - I really don’t care about the origin of that short film. I’ve got a number of very blaze’ kids here and I think it went someway to showing them, this virus is not something they are immune too...ffs - I watched a tic tic video bought to me by my youngest, 20 kids around age 14 - taking turns licking the same ice cream...just wtf.

[Stix]

No Tasssie...they'll chase me because they'll have nothin else to do...

Today i heard our State Govt has just put on another 40 patrols...when everyone is in lock down in their homes & im flyin down the freeway they'll all be like rabid blood thirsty pig dogs wanting some action...

Ill be sure & mount the spotty to spice up channel nine's coverage...!!...lol

[Sergeant Hartman]

Hey atleast Victoria had created a 500 strong taskforce to enforce the self isolation.

I am assuming these are not from the traffic management group. So don't speed in your cat... but go steal, and enjoy.

On a even better note, a 70 year old guy got released from jail because in his old age he is at a higher risk of catching coronavirus in Jail

[sungazer]

The crime rate is something that I have wondered about. Less shops open you would think that shop lifting will go down. What about other crimes? A bit like the hospitals they are reporting lower number of cases turning up to emergency departments. Less sport related injuries and people that used to go there with common colds are not turning up for some attention as they fear of being infected for real.

[PorkEatingCrusader]

I did read the jacks are not doing RBTs anymore because its an infection risk. I also noticed all the highway patrol cars today parked up at my local station.

I don't condone unlawful behaviour but it looks like the jacks are not focused on traffic at the moment.

[Oldbloke]

Seems there is a good reason to stay home. See link and graph below. And for those that have not heard yet, caravan parks in Vic are beeing closed and camping in the bush is no longer.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-03- ... 2f12084144

[wanneroo]

All is calm here, town is empty, stores are pretty well stocked. The only concern we have is people from New York City coming out this way infecting people. This whole episode has been a great reminder why I don't want anything to do with a city. Weather here is gradually warming up and days are getting longer. I might be returning to work by mid April.

I've been busy doing a lot of work with 300 Blackout and prepping a lot of brass for reloading.

I think Australia is a little behind the USA in what is going on. I think here people are past the initial freak out stage and the media and government have not been able to sustain the hysteria so that has faded some and I think people are starting to look beyond this now looking to when the kids can go back to school and they can go back to work. Summer is coming and that is not going to be stopped.

[wanneroo]

They won’t chase you mate...they don’t have numbers lol.
It was reported today, that there were over 40 break and entries last night in Hobart - up from the night previous - police did not respond to a large number due to manpower.
This is what really concerns me...ppl don’t have security of $$$, don’t know where their next meal is coming from, some are getting desperate...thing is - these break ins are at houses where they know people are 99% at home...obviously.

If that was attempted here in most parts of the USA, most of those burglars would be dead or in the hospital right now.

On another forum here in the USA there was a thread about your bedside gun. A lot of people have special bed holsters for their pistols. Myself I keep an AR-15 with 40 round magazines, a Suomi with a 71 round drum and G3 clone in 7.62 NATO with some special copper bullets for chewing up a vehicle. Downstairs I keep an Uzi with a bag of magazines next to it. I live off a county road in a house not visible from the road, so if you are in my driveway or around my house at 2 AM you better have a very good reason. The law in my state is clear, anyone attempting forcible entry into your house is seen as that burglar is doing it to commit a violent felony so it's fair game at that point.

The great positive in this situation is that you find out who the unprepared people are and who are all the weak minded spazzed out people so you can get them out of your life. Personally other than shutting things down for a few weeks and the disruption it causes, this situation is nothing like one of the world wars or the spanish flu epidemic 100 years ago.

Life is cyclical, the smart people use the good times to prepare for the bad and the bad times to prepare for the good.

[TassieTiger]

Sounds like your sorted Wan - Country USA appears to be headed right direction.

Unfortunately - Aust has no castle laws here...it’s been a contentious issue for a long time.
It’s also reasonably rare in today’s society, for a household to own / have ready access to a gun, so burgs know that the law is somewhat on their side when breaking into a premises...sad...very sad.

So many stories here about ppl fighting back at burgs - recently, one was highlighted where the home owner got into a physical life or death struggle and got the upper hand - I think he’s now in jail (recent 60 mins, if someone is looking).

[wanneroo]

Sounds like your sorted Wan - Country USA appears to be headed right direction.

Unfortunately - Aust has no castle laws here...it’s been a contentious issue for a long time.
It’s also reasonably rare in today’s society, for a household to own / have ready access to a gun, so burgs know that the law is somewhat on their side when breaking into a premises...sad...very sad.

So many stories here about ppl fighting back at burgs - recently, one was highlighted where the home owner got into a physical life or death struggle and got the upper hand - I think he’s now in jail (recent 60 mins, if someone is looking).

I think it is headed in the right direction but further disruptions or shocks will not be a surprise. I think a big part of it for most people will be economic and I believe there will be plenty of bad news to come, even though the Dow Jones has gone up almost 4000 points in a couple days. We may as well face that this will be something that we'll be dealing with for at least a year.

To me people have a right to defend themselves from getting assaulted or worse and the laws in Australia just encourage criminal behavior. Especially in rural America, even druggie criminals know that a significant percentage of home owners have guns so your home invasion "career" will likely be short before you succumb to lead poisoning. I remember back in the 1980's when gun ownership was not as common and we did not have castle laws or concealed carry laws like we do now that home invasions were much more common back then.

I believe a lot of positives are going to come out of this, we are seeing areas we are weak in whether on a national or personal level and I expect some changes. This decade will not be like the last one.

[Sergeant Hartman]

Just saw the news... apparently jobless rates have gone crazy..... 3.3m people applied for benefits in the US. I think it's going to be that bad everywhere.

Infact on a different note if the whole world starts to bleed... then there will be no one to buy Chinese manufacturing.... that would make this even worse for Australia... triple whammy

[Stix]

Seems there is a good reason to stay home. See link and graph below. And for those that have not heard yet, caravan parks in Vic are beeing closed and camping in the bush is no longer.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-03- ... 2f12084144

I think i heard on wireless this morning that caravsn parks here are still open.

As for a lockdown, for people with access to another house/home out in rural areas, i dont see why they wouldnt be able to drive there to stay...
Its not as if going to infect anyone...

[wanneroo]

Just saw the news... apparently jobless rates have gone crazy..... 3.3m people applied for benefits in the US. I think it's going to be that bad everywhere.

Infact on a different note if the whole world starts to bleed... then there will be no one to buy Chinese manufacturing.... that would make this even worse for Australia... triple whammy

I heard even before this that many companies were already bailing out of China to other places and a lot of manufacturing has returned to the USA. I think with the advent of 3D printing and similar technologies, it might no longer be necessary to have that long of a supply chain.

Some of the 3.3 million applying for benefits are temporary furloughs, as in some cases their businesses ordered closed for now against their will. I think by the time we get to the end of May it will be clear whether this was a temporary, uncomfortable bump in the road or a longer term recession. I tend to think businesses will take this opportunity to look at where they can trim the fat. I'd expect the same in Australia.

[marksman]

Marksman mate it's a scary video... but where is it taken.. and are you sure its cronavirus and not swine flu or something else, swine flu is common in India and Asian countries and it effects children and older people.

So with respect mate, unless you can confirm 100% the source of the video... only thing you are doing is scaring yourself unnecessarily.

But still whatever it is looks pretty fkn scary.



Stix, mate you are confused this is not the gun store thread. Anyway went to Aldi today.. to buy an AC... they had a pallet full of hand towel rolls (paper, kitchen ones)

ziad mate take good care of yourself and your family
no disrespect to you either ziad but you need to
stop the downplaying it looks ignorant and simple
show some common sence, l think this lady is talking to you
https://m.facebook.com/100024851474567/ ... 827419894/

but then again it is just a flu that effects the elderly isn't it
and you have to get a laugh from this meme
poor Greta

[Stix]

Love it marksman...
Its funny cos its true...Greta (her superiors) must be fuming...!!

[Stix]

So with regard to where lines cross in regard to righteosness, fairness, & equality...where does this stand---

AFL--Players representative, good old Patric Dangerfield, has refused a 50% pay reduction for all AFL players.

So people everywhere, including those that work in these clubs are layed off everywhere, yet these AFL players seemingly have this power whereby they negotiate what they continue to be paid... :

WTF is up with that...?

To me they are employed under a contractial basis that is mostly governed by their performance...

So why arent they lined up down at centrelink...?...
Am i missing something...or am i looking at one of the very "them & us" flaws in our capatilist society, that result in civil unrest & uprising when, like is happening now, the backbone of equality gets too much weight placed on to the point it breaks...

Are these guys seriously worth that much more than us...???

[Sergeant Hartman]

So markymark is that what you teach your children.... trust whatever you see on the Facebook/internets?

No chance it could be a different disease? No chance it could be fake video? Do you even know what country or area that video was made? Can you even be certain or wad made this year and not a few years ago?

In suppose it's easy to mock me. Maybe you need to go hide in your house mate, the crona might get ya.

For all it could be Greta'd superiors who have released this virus.... gets eveyone in their houses, closes all factories, no airlines producing pollution, no traffic pollution.

[marksman]

come on ziad no need to go all out camel on me mate
it was just a bit of advise and a funny Greta meme
no need to choke on your hookah mate

and like everyone else who reads what your writing, l believe you mate and l trust you

[Sergeant Hartman]

Still haven't answered the question.


Anyway ill leave it, i ran out of my tin foil..bloody everyone heading it in the supermarkets hehe

[PorkEatingCrusader]

WA the worst state in the country just shut down its gun shops. It is clear they do not want people to lawfully spend their own money and obtain ammunition....


Scroll to the bottom.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/corona ... 881501843z

[PorkEatingCrusader]

In the last century more people were murdered by their own government than by foreign a government. Whilst past performance is not a guarantee off future performance it is a good indicator. Why would they restrict ammunition to lawful owners who go through hell to get their licences if they did not wish harm on the population?

Scomo already announced he is locking citizens in camps for 14 days who return from overseas. Whose to say he will even release them? This disease is a perfect excuse to implement the police state and restrict peoples freedoms(which already suck balls in this country). Hitler did the same thing with the reichstag fire.

[Sergeant Hartman]

The crazy half of my brain tells me... what are the chances all these extra powers given to police and army will it be returned and cancelled or just "forgotten" about one cronavirus is gone... the normal half tells him to stop watching xfiles

[Ziege]

Yeah mate and trust me we are all suss on the police comrade, I mean commissioner, with so many other businesses in operation whilst they're forced to shut down it's pretty suss.

Can't see their sense in doing it aside from worrys that people will use said guns and ammo to deal with other less desirable people whilst the amount of available police gets less and less. But let's face it if society gets to that stage then who are they to stop people defending themselves and families. Honestly Australia is more backward than a donkey made of two asses.

[PorkEatingCrusader]

The crazy half of my brain tells me... what are the chances all these extra powers given to police and army will it be returned and cancelled or just "forgotten" about one cronavirus is gone... the normal half tells him to stop watching xfiles

Freedom is never given mate. It is taken by the will of the people. A lot of people think this is a big joke but it is scary how real it is. And at any moment the police and army can enact a form of emergency marshal law and restrict everything.

The only government I can think of to disolve its self was the QLD senate in 1921.

[PorkEatingCrusader]

Yeah mate and trust me we are all suss on the police comrade, I mean commissioner, with so many other businesses in operation whilst they're forced to shut down it's pretty suss.

Can't see their sense in doing it aside from worrys that people will use said guns and ammo to deal with other less desirable people whilst the amount of available police gets less and less. But let's face it if society gets to that stage then who are they to stop people defending themselves and families. Honestly Australia is more backward than a donkey made of two asses.

When a government tells you that you don't need something than YOU NEED IT MORE THAN EVER!!!!
Australia is the worst and the best country in the world simultaneously.

[Sergeant Hartman]

Mate, i can see it's hard..i can see over the next 6 months many many many people will lose their jobs, maybe house, marriages will break up due to the stress. Businesses will go bust...(even our business might go bust)

But life is to short to get worried, i plan to, with proper precautions enjoy live as much i am able to.

Everyone is eventually gonna die anyway so why worry too much about that.

[sungazer]

There is no doubt that this virus is particularly virulent but I think it does need to be kept in context and continually compared to the normal number of infections, hospitalizations and deaths due to the normal Flu stains.

In the US last years hospitalizations were about 1 million and there was an estimated 61,000 deaths.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017%E2%8 ... flu_season

Everyone is going to look pretty silly if this doesn't at least double that figure given the economic repercussions that all this isolation has caused.

Perhaps this is natures way of pushing the reset button on over population and all the climate change that is occurring. A 10% reduction in the population would still really not be what is required to reduce the strain on the planet.