Safe storage of .22 rifle in caravan?

[bladeracer]

Thanks guys, I appreciate your responses, but they, just like a bad day on the range, have missed the point.

I have and am dealing with the legal application side of things. Thank you.

I primarily need to know, does anyone know of a single rifle gun case on the market?
The smallest I can find is a 3 weapon gun case.

Thanks again.

Peter.

I would get a cheap 3-rifle safe, and if it's too big, mark two lines around the four sides, cut an inch or two out of it with an angle grinder (you'll also have to cut the bottom of the bolt box if it has one) and weld the front and back together to make the size you want.

[Wapiti]

Thanks guys, I appreciate your responses, but they, just like a bad day on the range, have missed the point.
I have and am dealing with the legal application side of things. Thank you.
I primarily need to know, does anyone know of a single rifle gun case on the market?
The smallest I can find is a 3 weapon gun case.
Thanks again.
Peter.

Precise Plinker says that he's got permission from the WA cops to have a rifle safe in his van, so maybe let's not over-complicate things.
Mate, have you checked your local Bunnings stores on your travels?
Here in Qld, even in the smaller country ones, they sell gun safes that are very small, slim and light (2 and 3mm folded construction) and comply with Cat A&B requirements.
They will NOT put a van over GVM unless the damn thing is already packed to the limit.
He doesn't need some 150kg monster for a single 94/22.
Yes, I know they say they are 2 or 3 gun safes (and they sell "5-gun" safes too), but if you had your 22 magnum in a slim soft rifle bag and then put the rifle in the safe, you would be flat out getting another rifle in there.
This would protect the rifle from crashing around in the safe as the van jumps around everywhere, as they do. Ammo can go in the compartment up top, wrap it in bubble wrap left over from something else to stop it mashing itself up.
Again, the blurb says they are 2-gun or 3-gun safes, but they bloody well aren't . Don't be fooled by what the box says, have a squiz at them.
You can mount them upright, laying down or whatever.

The smallest one I've seen was a 2-gun I think, might've been 3, I wasn't concerned what the overly enthusiastic BS on the box said but when the rifle was in it's soft bag to protect it from being thrown around in there, I could just squeeze a cleaning rod in beside it. I fitted it into a delivery van for a mate.
I don't think you'll improve on that for van storage.
Biggest issue is deciding where it will go, bolting it in securely with the required number/size of fasteners (check if the state has specifics here) and not overly ruin the useability of the space inside.

[Bugman]

We need a HUGE chain saw so we can set WA free. It can drift off into the Indian Ocean.

Not a bad idea, but would it not be bettter to set that incompetent fellow Poopalia or whatever his name is, adrift and start the ball rolling.

[alexjones]

We need a HUGE chain saw so we can set WA free. It can drift off into the Indian Ocean.

Not a bad idea, but would it not be bettter to set that incompetent fellow Poopalia or whatever his name is, adrift and start the ball rolling.

The problem with WA is it is basically one large city where nearly everybody lives. Large cities tend to hate freedom and love socialism.

WA has so much open space where people could be shooting on private land everywhere but because of the concentration in one city they lean to hating freedom.

[Oldbloke]

We need a HUGE chain saw so we can set WA free. It can drift off into the Indian Ocean.

Not a bad idea, but would it not be bettter to set that incompetent fellow Poopalia or whatever his name is, adrift and start the ball rolling.

The problem with WA is it is basically one large city where nearly everybody lives. Large cities tend to hate freedom and love socialism.

WA has so much open space where people could be shooting on private land everywhere but because of the concentration in one city they lean to hating freedom.

Na, nothing to do with freedom.

They are clueless, listen to politicians, journalists & watch too much TV.
The media has a huge influence on how people think.
Country people, including farmers understand firearms are tools. People in the cities watch Hollywood crap and believe it

[alexjones]

We need a HUGE chain saw so we can set WA free. It can drift off into the Indian Ocean.

Not a bad idea, but would it not be bettter to set that incompetent fellow Poopalia or whatever his name is, adrift and start the ball rolling.

The problem with WA is it is basically one large city where nearly everybody lives. Large cities tend to hate freedom and love socialism.

WA has so much open space where people could be shooting on private land everywhere but because of the concentration in one city they lean to hating freedom.

Na, nothing to do with freedom.

They are clueless, listen to politicians, journalists & watch too much TV.
The media has a huge influence on how people think.
Country people, including farmers understand firearms are tools. People in the cities watch Hollywood crap and believe it

Yes maybe I am being hyperbolic I. I just equate freedom with how things use to be. You are spot on though mate how easily people are led.

When I took a young bloke from work pistol shooting he put the glock 45acp sideways and was like wow this is not like on TV I cant hit anything. It was funny to watch. Why does it move when I shoot it. That's called recoil mate.

[Oldbloke]

Hollywood movie are a complete joke. The laws of physics, forget it.
Basic chemistry, forget it.
The laws, forget about them too.
Etc, etc

[Precise-Plinker]

Thanks guys, I appreciate your responses, but they, just like a bad day on the range, have missed the point.
I have and am dealing with the legal application side of things. Thank you.
I primarily need to know, does anyone know of a single rifle gun case on the market?
The smallest I can find is a 3 weapon gun case.
Thanks again.
Peter.

Precise Plinker says that he's got permission from the WA cops to have a rifle safe in his van, so maybe let's not over-complicate things.
Mate, have you checked your local Bunnings stores on your travels?
Here in Qld, even in the smaller country ones, they sell gun safes that are very small, slim and light (2 and 3mm folded construction) and comply with Cat A&B requirements.
They will NOT put a van over GVM unless the damn thing is already packed to the limit.
He doesn't need some 150kg monster for a single 94/22.
Yes, I know they say they are 2 or 3 gun safes (and they sell "5-gun" safes too), but if you had your 22 magnum in a slim soft rifle bag and then put the rifle in the safe, you would be flat out getting another rifle in there.
This would protect the rifle from crashing around in the safe as the van jumps around everywhere, as they do. Ammo can go in the compartment up top, wrap it in bubble wrap left over from something else to stop it mashing itself up.
Again, the blurb says they are 2-gun or 3-gun safes, but they bloody well aren't . Don't be fooled by what the box says, have a squiz at them.
You can mount them upright, laying down or whatever.

The smallest one I've seen was a 2-gun I think, might've been 3, I wasn't concerned what the overly enthusiastic BS on the box said but when the rifle was in it's soft bag to protect it from being thrown around in there, I could just squeeze a cleaning rod in beside it. I fitted it into a delivery van for a mate.
I don't think you'll improve on that for van storage.
Biggest issue is deciding where it will go, bolting it in securely with the required number/size of fasteners (check if the state has specifics here) and not overly ruin the useability of the space inside.

Thanks Wapati, I appreciate your reply.

I have considered the Bunnings 3 gun case, as it would do the job and it is cheaply priced.

My thoughts, unless I think of a better spot, is to mount it on the floor, under the bed
It will be secure, "safe" and out of site.
It would bolt onto the floor and through the wall.
The only problem is that it is too long, and the extra length is due to the ammunition compartment on top.
I could grind/weld the ammo box off, and that would do the trick, but it isn't a small task as the door is a one piece.
Can be done, but I was hoping for an easy out.
That will be my resort, if I don't come up with a better alternative.
Thanks again

Peter.

By the way, in reply to the "WAbashers" as we are resettling in WA from an Eastern State, we have been going through a few different applications involving all sorts of official documents etc.
WA do have many different protocols and procedures when applying for residency, licences, permits etc.
We found that this can be made simple by accepting that we are now playing by their rules, and rather than 'fight' it, simply do your homework beforehand and follow their guidelines. At the end of the excercise, you will get where you want, and you won't have lost any sleep over it.

Thanks again Wapati and best wishes to all,

Peter.
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[Wapiti]

Hey mate if you're handy, when you cut off the ammo compartment, try and cut as close to the partition that separates the two (gun and ammo) sections.
You'll probably find that it's only tacked in, and not really secure, so will probably need welding fully.
No need to remove the door, just prop it open and cover the rest with a heavy tarp or drop sheet (protect the rest from sparks getting into the lock or burn marks)
So run a few stitch welds (or fully weld it) so it's secure.
To make it strong above the door, like the original return fold, find a 25x25 piece of SHS box section, and weld that in place across the top. That'll make it as strong as it originally was.
Then cut the door down to accept another 25x25 across the top of the door, but remember you'll need to allow for a gap.
Give the gap between the two pieces of SHS is your choice, something around 2-3mm is great.

Clean it all up with a flap disc on your grinder, and you can use this to feather back the original paint where the welding has burnt it.
I bet if you blend the edges with the flap disc by rolling it, it'll look like an original fold.
Bunnings also sells grey metallic hammertone spray in a can, Dye-Mark brand is very forgiving, about $15 and will hide any rough bits and match the finish.

You'll have a custom fit safe then, and you can't get better than that mate!

Yeah, one of my trades is Boilermaker, so I know there's nothing you can't make.

[Precise-Plinker]

Thanks Wapiti, excellent advice.

I think this may be the answer.

Peter.