Albo's All time Effing ridiculous call.

[Oldbloke]

And, typical for those experts who'll comment on something they know nothing about, friends of ours in town who do our electrical work, husband and wife electricians, reckon the newer smart meters have indeed been used to regulate a/c's.
Something like an impulse sent through the grid to the meter that can control the system, because all of these meters have the a/c's connected to a particular output. Old tech apparently, similar to the signals sent to cable TV to unlock videos to download, watch sports events.
I'm not a sparky, but my mates are brilliant and not prone to quoting Google for self-appraisal.

If the A/C circuit comes from the smart meter separate from the other circuits I think that's doable. These meters are all read and controlled by some sort of blue tooth.

To introduce that I'm guessing it would be costly to upgrade thousands of meters. Doubt it would be politically acceptable also.

Not impossible.

[Wapiti]

Upgrade? New homes all have them, and when getting additions to your meter board (A new a/c, a new shed connection etc) isn't the requirement that the meters need upgrading to the smart meters?
I've just been fencing, I'm too lazy to ask my sparky mates. Isn't anyone here a domestic sparky?

[Oldbloke]

Up grade the old smart meters. Mine must be abt 6-8 year old

[Oldbloke]

Did the google.
Ok not total nonsense.

This is my take on it.

Looks like at this stage only QLD??

Has to be:
Latest smart meter.
You sign up to it.
Has to be latest compatible A/C

They don't switch them off, they force them to "economy mode"
Not sure what that means. I'm guessing it limits the temperature settings.

Personally i set the A/C on about 26 on a hot day, 19 -20 on a cold day. Wife is different.
Some will set A/C say 19 on a hot day, 25 on a cold day which is a bit ridiculous.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-31/ ... /103385474

[Billo]

Perhaps he could provide us all a list of Australian manufacturers.
I'll give him the single piece of A4 paper and fat crayon, that's he needs to make it happen.

Can't wait for that A class f Witt to get tossed out of the lodge.

The alternative is more alarming I reckon, Dutton is a lot more dangerous

You have got to be kidding.

I used to think that shooters and hunters were conservatives, included in being one of theose is a desire to be left alone to prosper if one works hard in a system that rewards them, is respected and unjudged until they show otherwise.
But we are being infiltrated by the enemy now. Social media like this forum has been a great eye opener for me because it's showing me the enemy within.

Yes, politics is Aus is in the grip of the Uniparty, where the system penalises any new or competing politics to feed either of the two monsters... it's either the Socialist trash intent on screwing us all into poverty-driven submission,
or the Conservatives that just jump from one fad that might get them votes to another.

The alternatives ARE there, but the fools always find excuses not to jump on board, even though they continue to suffer.

We see in WA, that the electorate is so low IQ that it will vote for the socialist monsters promises, even to its detriment. It cannot help itself, but then it suffers. It cannot see that the very wealth the state is producing, and feeding the monster eating it's people's rights, is funded from taxes from the opposite side of politics... the conservative entrepreneurs and the workers trying to prosper for their families. The very thing the socialist slime is taking away.

Edit: and nothing optimises this unqualified, dribbling, bottom-of-the-evolution chain more than Albanese.

Do tell me all the good things Dutton has done in Politics over his career and we will weigh them up against what Albo has done in the last couple of years, this will be FUN

[on_one_wheel]

Anthony albanese...
Failed push for a voice to parliament costing bucket loads of money.
meaningless minimum wage increase,
opened the flood gates to immigration doubling the numbers,
massive tax breaks and investment incentives for the wealthy,
pushing the net zero bandwagon causing increases in the costs of everything,
record numbers of families homeless.
Failed to deliver a proper economic plan,
cost of living crisis,
2024 the worst quarter for business failures on record,
27,036 businesses have gone insolvent since Labor took office.

What have you got fon Dutton ?
While he hasn't been a prime minister yet, his portfolio looks pretty dam good for someone waiting to become one
https://www.liberal.org.au/team/peter-dutton

[Billo]

Anthony albanese...
Failed push for a voice to parliament costing bucket loads of money.
meaningless minimum wage increase,
opened the flood gates to immigration doubling the numbers,
massive tax breaks and investment incentives for the wealthy,
pushing the net zero bandwagon causing increases in the costs of everything,
record numbers of families homeless.
Failed to deliver a proper economic plan,
cost of living crisis,
2024 the worst quarter for business failures on record,
27,036 businesses have gone insolvent since Labor took office.

What have you got fon Dutton ?

Yeap Voice was a total failure , everything else you have written is total GARBAGE

[on_one_wheel]

Anthony albanese...
Failed push for a voice to parliament costing bucket loads of money.
meaningless minimum wage increase,
opened the flood gates to immigration doubling the numbers,
massive tax breaks and investment incentives for the wealthy,
pushing the net zero bandwagon causing increases in the costs of everything,
record numbers of families homeless.
Failed to deliver a proper economic plan,
cost of living crisis,
2024 the worst quarter for business failures on record,
27,036 businesses have gone insolvent since Labor took office.

What have you got fon Dutton ?

Yeap Voice was a total failure , everything else you have written is total GARBAGE

What rock are you living under ?

Perhaps you would like to enlighten me to the facts then ?

[alexjones]

Why are we arguing over Albo and Dutton? They are both freedom hating commies. Both terrible!

Yeah sure if we HAD to pick one Dutton would be the better choice but that's just because Dutton lubes us up first before bending us over whilst Albo goes in dry.

[Larry]

Tell us more ... So where do we place the magnet to slow the meter?

You dont you re calibrate the meter by changing a few parameters of the code they use an optical link and you would need the device to program them.

[6mm Remington]

Why are we arguing over Albo and Dutton? They are both freedom hating commies. Both terrible!

Yeah sure if we HAD to pick one Dutton would be the better choice but that's just because Dutton lubes us up first before bending us over whilst Albo goes in dry.

Exactly the point I tried to make yesterday but was asked if I was Troll.
If ever there was a time Australians needed to get together to end the bulls**t is now.
Future generations will look at us as the ones who let their freedom be robbed from them.
The way things are looking all 'real' Australians will have to live under a bridge.

[Billo]

Anthony albanese...
Failed push for a voice to parliament costing bucket loads of money.
meaningless minimum wage increase,
opened the flood gates to immigration doubling the numbers,
massive tax breaks and investment incentives for the wealthy,
pushing the net zero bandwagon causing increases in the costs of everything,
record numbers of families homeless.
Failed to deliver a proper economic plan,
cost of living crisis,
2024 the worst quarter for business failures on record,
27,036 businesses have gone insolvent since Labor took office.

What have you got fon Dutton ?

Yeap Voice was a total failure , everything else you have written is total GARBAGE

What rock are you living under ?

Perhaps you would like to enlighten me to the facts then ?

Sure its real easy mate.....

In the last 2.5 years Albo and Chalmers have shown some real Fiscal restraint and turned around the USS Debt Disaster they inherited from Scomo. These are the FACTS

# They have halved the LNP inherited inflation, 6% back down to 2.8%
# Delivered 2 Budget Surpluses, something LNP couldnt manage in 9 years
# Reversed rising interest rates which again they inherited from the last bunch of Grifters
# Tax relief for the average Taxpayer, not just the highest income earners
# Consecutive pay rises for PAYG taxpayers
# Expanded Medicare funding
# Reigned in the LNP blowout of the NDIS
# Added 13 GW of Electricity production after the LNP lost 4 GW over 9 years

Thats just tip of the Iceberg but you get the gist of how bad and unorganised the previous 9 years of the LNP were.......

[Wapiti]

Perhaps he could provide us all a list of Australian manufacturers.
I'll give him the single piece of A4 paper and fat crayon, that's he needs to make it happen.

Can't wait for that A class f Witt to get tossed out of the lodge.

The alternative is more alarming I reckon, Dutton is a lot more dangerous

You have got to be kidding.

I used to think that shooters and hunters were conservatives, included in being one of theose is a desire to be left alone to prosper if one works hard in a system that rewards them, is respected and unjudged until they show otherwise.
But we are being infiltrated by the enemy now. Social media like this forum has been a great eye opener for me because it's showing me the enemy within.

Yes, politics is Aus is in the grip of the Uniparty, where the system penalises any new or competing politics to feed either of the two monsters... it's either the Socialist trash intent on screwing us all into poverty-driven submission,
or the Conservatives that just jump from one fad that might get them votes to another.

The alternatives ARE there, but the fools always find excuses not to jump on board, even though they continue to suffer.

We see in WA, that the electorate is so low IQ that it will vote for the socialist monsters promises, even to its detriment. It cannot help itself, but then it suffers. It cannot see that the very wealth the state is producing, and feeding the monster eating it's people's rights, is funded from taxes from the opposite side of politics... the conservative entrepreneurs and the workers trying to prosper for their families. The very thing the socialist slime is taking away.

Edit: and nothing optimises this unqualified, dribbling, bottom-of-the-evolution chain more than Albanese.

Do tell me all the good things Dutton has done in Politics over his career and we will weigh them up against what Albo has done in the last couple of years, this will be FUN

You have SFA idea about me.

The very day I saw Dutton was given the title of LNP "leader" i immediately said to my wife, this clown is unelectable, and if im wrong, it's only because of the complete ineptitude of all possible opposition.
The mind boggles at the slimy trash that infest politics ANYWHERE now.

Despite that, that does not excuse this countries dumbest voters for voting for Labor again in this corrupt system, voting again for the complete clusterf*** that is that evolutionary mistake Albanese and his destruction of what Australia's real people built.

What Albo has done? Please elaborate and embarrass yourself.

[Billo]

I'll post what I just wrote again

Sure its real easy mate.....

In the last 2.5 years Albo and Chalmers have shown some real Fiscal restraint and turned around the USS Debt Disaster they inherited from Scomo. These are the FACTS

# They have halved the LNP inherited inflation, 6% back down to 2.8%
# Delivered 2 Budget Surpluses, something LNP couldnt manage in 9 years
# Reversed rising interest rates which again they inherited from the last bunch of Grifters
# Tax relief for the average Taxpayer, not just the highest income earners
# Consecutive pay rises for PAYG taxpayers
# Expanded Medicare funding
# Reigned in the LNP blowout of the NDIS
# Added 13 GW of Electricity production after the LNP lost 4 GW over 9 years

Thats just tip of the Iceberg but you get the gist of how bad and unorganised the previous 9 years of the LNP were.......

[Wapiti]

Give it up, Albo. All bullsh*t that only the lemmings fall for. Or propaganda from a troll.
This means nothing to the struggles of people who are competing with toxic immigrants for housing and the impossibility now of the young buying a house, electricity up $1000+ a year despite the dribbling lies of a $275 cut, Chalmers taking credit for a 1/4% interest rate cut that saw house prices jump from it, business shutting down at record levels, a huge percentage of families skipping meals, all the lies pretending to fund Medicare...

Never, since we've run the business that we have, have we seen more down and out, penniless, helpless people that we have in the last 3 years. We see people when theyre really bad and they all say tge same thing. But getting your knowledge from the real people doesn't fit your bias mate.
I could go on but what's the point,
All since the dribbling liar took office.

Anyone who knows me, or has followed my posting history, knows of my political support does not go to either of these career political duopoly trash, nor do I even remotely think that there is a perfect alternative.
But like everything else, I will have a go at changing whatever I can despite the indoctrinated masses who hoover up the socialist media's crap.

[Wapiti]

Last thing I'll say on the subject.
Funny how this rubbish drifts into my head when I'm out feeding the breeding animals and restocking the pig trap.

Albanese and the rest of the globalists that he's scared of in the Labor party have had 3 years to fix all the stuff they soiled their pants over during the LNP time in office.
The insane over-reaction to C-19 bankrupted this country, in a bipartian spending spree.
And what have we got? Aussies making average wages living in tents, lining up in rows outside ED's, and families skipping meals to keep their kids decent.

Dutton is no courageous leader, nor has he any charisma in my eyes. Hes a stone skipper, skipping across the surface without digging in and standing for what people really want. Charisma is, pathetically, terribly important to the average voter because they haven't the comprehension to understand the big picture and the way out. But he was never given the chance by Morrison.

Neither will get my vote, but I'll make damn sure the people that do aren't planning to bounce my votes to Labor or the Greens.

[alexjones]

I hate labor with the fury of 1000 suns, however 3 years is not enough time to fix anything. The damage is massive and can't be fixed with inside the confides of our Westminster system.

I can't believe I am defending China and tyranny however the one positive of a single party state is very long term planning. Aus governments only think about the next election and do whatever they have to do to make the books look good to win that election.

[mchughcb]

Perhaps he could provide us all a list of Australian manufacturers.
I'll give him the single piece of A4 paper and fat crayon, that's he needs to make it happen.

Can't wait for that A class f Witt to get tossed out of the lodge.

I read today that Australia's last floating glass plant shutdown last week. We can't even make architectural glass now. Its all got to be imported from China.

So no steel making, no glass making, no car making. The glass CEO claimed the price of gas and EPA conditions had force closure. Not labour costs.

It is inconceivable that Australia exports gas cheaper than what our domestic industries can buy it at.

Let me tell you ignoramus voters on here how this work. The oil/gas/minerals are owned by the state. The state issues a licence to extract it. On an open market the Australian price should be at least the same cost as what the chinese get it for or even less if you take off transport costs.

[Billo]

Give it up, Albo. All bullsh*t that only the lemmings fall for. Or propaganda from a troll.
This means nothing to the struggles of people who are competing with toxic immigrants for housing and the impossibility now of the young buying a house, electricity up $1000+ a year despite the dribbling lies of a $275 cut, Chalmers taking credit for a 1/4% interest rate cut that saw house prices jump from it, business shutting down at record levels, a huge percentage of families skipping meals, all the lies pretending to fund Medicare...

Never, since we've run the business that we have, have we seen more down and out, penniless, helpless people that we have in the last 3 years. We see people when theyre really bad and they all say tge same thing. But getting your knowledge from the real people doesn't fit your bias mate.
I could go on but what's the point,
All since the dribbling liar took office.

Anyone who knows me, or has followed my posting history, knows of my political support does not go to either of these career political duopoly trash, nor do I even remotely think that there is a perfect alternative.
But like everything else, I will have a go at changing whatever I can despite the indoctrinated masses who hoover up the socialist media's crap.

No Bias from me, I do real numbers and facts

Like Angus Taylor approved and then Hid the last lot of Electricity price rises

Business shut down because they fail to invest and adapt, when 1 busines closes its generally because it was poorly run, and I work in a small business so I know how you need to adapt.

Again we only get 2 real choices and the LNP are corrupt Debt binging idiots who would only have lined there pockets.

[mchughcb]

Give it up, Albo. All bullsh*t that only the lemmings fall for. Or propaganda from a troll.
This means nothing to the struggles of people who are competing with toxic immigrants for housing and the impossibility now of the young buying a house, electricity up $1000+ a year despite the dribbling lies of a $275 cut, Chalmers taking credit for a 1/4% interest rate cut that saw house prices jump from it, business shutting down at record levels, a huge percentage of families skipping meals, all the lies pretending to fund Medicare...

Never, since we've run the business that we have, have we seen more down and out, penniless, helpless people that we have in the last 3 years. We see people when theyre really bad and they all say tge same thing. But getting your knowledge from the real people doesn't fit your bias mate.
I could go on but what's the point,
All since the dribbling liar took office.

Anyone who knows me, or has followed my posting history, knows of my political support does not go to either of these career political duopoly trash, nor do I even remotely think that there is a perfect alternative.
But like everything else, I will have a go at changing whatever I can despite the indoctrinated masses who hoover up the socialist media's crap.

No Bias from me, I do real numbers and facts

Like Angus Taylor approved and then Hid the last lot of Electricity price rises

Business shut down because they fail to invest and adapt, when 1 busines closes its generally because it was poorly run, and I work in a small business so I know how you need to adapt.

Again we only get 2 real choices and the LNP are corrupt Debt binging idiots who would only have lined there pockets.

Let me tell you how this works. A HELE plant in the La Trobe valley should be producing power for about 40-50MWh. My ex chairman had a PhD in Economics and personal rocking horse was power supply. He was advising Frydenburg to get on with building a new 2000MW plant in La Trobe asap.

If you are a small manufacturing business who is energy intensive and has to pay $170/Mhr rather $40/Mhr then its a no brainer. I remember almost coming to a punch up with the ex CEO of the Minerals Council Australia over Abbot's direct action plan vs Professor Ross Gaurnets carbon credit BS.

If we'd gone with a BOOT of La Trobe HELE we would have had a stable grid, no ffing windfarms and cheap energy.

You live in a parallel universe Billo. The cold hard economics of Labor policies are coming home with a vengence.

[Billo]

What lunatic would invest in a Coal powered Station ?? that's right the numbers don't stack up chuck. Banks dont lend when the numbers dont work

[on_one_wheel]

A lunatic that wants to provide an affordable and stable energy supply.

I know it's hard to believe after 2 decades of brainwashing that coal is bad, but modern coal fired power stations produce significantly less pollution than the old coal plants of yesteryear.

[mchughcb]

What lunatic would invest in a Coal powered Station ?? that's right the numbers don't stack up chuck. Banks dont lend when the numbers dont work

Let me give it to you straight. 2 years ago I had the ANZ resource department in my boardroom all bloody three of them. They said they will only invest in Copper, Gold and Iron Ore.

The reason they don't invest in coal is ideological not because it makes a coin.

Don't believe me, have a look at how much Mach Energy made on Mt Pleasant Operations buying it from Rio Tinto.

The resource departments in the Aus Banks are fundamentally flawed.

[mchughcb]

A lunatic that wants to provide an affordable and stable energy supply.

I know it's hard to believe after 2 decades of brainwashing that coal is bad, but modern coal fired power stations produce significantly less pollution than the old coal plants of yesteryear.

Correct and about 6+% more energy efficient, better if its combined cycle.

[Wapiti]

What lunatic would invest in a Coal powered Station ?? that's right the numbers don't stack up chuck. Banks dont lend when the numbers dont work

No wonder this country is f*****. The voters who have absolutely no idea. The voters who do not bother to do anything but be sock puppets.

Hey, I respect that people have opinions, but to parrot cr*p and lies because they do not have the capacity to seek the facts?
Obviously doing ok from the last vestiges of fat left on the bones of the suffering.

[Billo]

What lunatic would invest in a Coal powered Station ?? that's right the numbers don't stack up chuck. Banks dont lend when the numbers dont work

Let me give it to you straight. 2 years ago I had the ANZ resource department in my boardroom all bloody three of them. They said they will only invest in Copper, Gold and Iron Ore.

The reason they don't invest in coal is ideological not because it makes a coin.

Don't believe me, have a look at how much Mach Energy made on Mt Pleasant Operations buying it from Rio Tinto.

The resource departments in the Aus Banks are fundamentally flawed.

Bollocks, you keep on sprouting total crap about Coal station being a viable option in the futue, the ROI wont be recouped over the life of the Plant and thats why investment is dead in the water. Coal needs to be propped up to be viable and is a drain on Taxpayers, an East coast Gas reserve would have been smart Policy for manufacturing but we have Policians on boths sides preventing this

You would do well on reading the latest data on SWB and the myth that Coal has any place outside steel production, just writing saying doesnt make it true Chuck.

[Billo]

Solar Wind & Batteries, read what's going on in the real world

https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/cl ... -heres-how

And if you dont read the article, this is the vibe of it, hard real world facts in a Republican run state with huge energy needs.

Texas has become the leading state for wind, solar, and now battery deployments without any state-level clean-energy mandates driving that deployment.

California also saw enormous growth in solar power and batteries ease the heat-wave-driven grid stresses that had led to rolling outages in August 2020 and emergency conservation measures in September 2022. But that growth has been driven by decades of state clean-energy policy.

In Texas, by contrast, ERCOT’s highly competitive power-market structure and permissive grid interconnection rules have allowed clean resources to outcompete their fossil-fueled rivals.

[wanneroo]

Australia is facing the same thing all western countries are facing, a reckoning. Government wasting all it's resources on all the wrong things and making it worse for the people. It's going to take some sort of movement to turn things around.

[on_one_wheel]

Solar Wind & Batteries, read what's going on in the real world

https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/cl ... -heres-how

And if you dont read the article, this is the vibe of it, hard real world facts in a Republican run state with huge energy needs.

Texas has become the leading state for wind, solar, and now battery deployments without any state-level clean-energy mandates driving that deployment.

California also saw enormous growth in solar power and batteries ease the heat-wave-driven grid stresses that had led to rolling outages in August 2020 and emergency conservation measures in September 2022. But that growth has been driven by decades of state clean-energy policy.

In Texas, by contrast, ERCOT’s highly competitive power-market structure and permissive grid interconnection rules have allowed clean resources to outcompete their fossil-fueled rivals.

Funny how I can cut and paste your statements in to the google search bar and word for word see see where your getting your info from.

Have you done your homework on the organisation that your quoting directly from?
The NYSRC that you have cut and pasted in to your post are nothing but a bunch of one eyed hippies who believe they can power the grid with 70% renewables in the next 4½ years.

There data is extremely biased to put it mildly.
California also saw enormous growth in solar power and batteries ease the heat-wave-driven grid stresses that had led to rolling outages in August 2020 and emergency conservation measures in September 2022. But that growth has been driven by decades of state clean-energy policy.

Anyhow, I'm happy to eat my words in 2030 when they prove me wrong, however I seriously doubt they will hit their target.

Edit.. I just dove a little deeper
They (the NYSRC) are targeting 100% carbon free energy by 2040, that's completely laughable.
Even a simpleton knows that wind turbines and solar panels don't grow on trees, they don't last for ever.
The carbon footprint is simply moved from the power plants to manufacturing plants and mining operations elsewhere.
100% carbon free electricity is impossible.

[mchughcb]

Here's Albo against David. Well David and the dwarf, and fat Al

https://youtu.be/d7j2YtoseZI