The Australian Defence Force capability.

[Lazarus]

I bet those that are underrating our defense force also under rated our Athletes at the Olympics. For the size of our country we punch well above our weight.

It's not the force per se Larry, the average digger is anything but average.

As the old saying goes, the fish rots from the head mate

[Oldbloke]

We bury 45 MRH-90 Taipan helicopters (no real reason) that plenty of other countries operate.

We try to convert a nuclear sub into a battery operated sub. Then cancel the contract.

We buy US nuclear subs and pay a huge deposit with zero guarantee.

We can't even make primers.

I'm convinced the ADF is fukd.

[Lazarus]

The AUKUS "deal" is looking dodgier by the minute.

Latest reports are that there is a "confidential" political element that we still aren't allowed to know.

Will that just be that the US can dictate where and when they're used, as with all their other top shelf military gear?

Or will we be obliged to show up next time they invade someone?

Then there's the not insignificant point that any future president can, unilaterally, just pull the pin if they feel the urge.


The elephant in the room here is that Moronison's twisting and changing has left us looking at a minimum gap of 10 years with no submarines at all, once the already aging Collins have to be retired.
Or, the prospect of spending more billions trying to keep.them realistically operational.

The Moronison gummint did us proud with this sh!tstorm.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-10/ ... /104206862

[Lazarus]

This is exactly what I mean above.

Are we going to face this with "our" submarines?

https://kyivindependent.com/f-16-state-department/

[Oldbloke]

Laz,
I share your concerns.

https://asiapacificdefencereporter.com/ ... 0-66264758

[Lazarus]

Yeah, it just keeps getting better, eh?
If Australia was a person, we'd be walking around with a piece of paper taped to our back, saying "kick me", and all the other countries would steal our pocket money and eat our lunch.

How bloody embarrassing

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-12/ ... tent=other

[Oldbloke]

This is new to me. AU building un crewed subs.

https://asiapacificdefencereporter.com/ ... -66264758#

[Oldbloke]

AU is full of idiots.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/melbo ... 254ac156cb

[alexjones]

“1800 officers have been diverted from duties to monitor the area”

What a good way to announce to the criminals that they can commit their crimes and the police won't respond. You would think they would not disclose this? Like during covid the police in QLD announced they would not be doing RBTs or highway patrolling because the close contact was ‘unsafe’. Typical stupid public servants saying the quiet part out loud.


I do however support these protests for the fact that the government won't allow me to buy these weapons yet other people can? F them!

[Bugman]

Just on a more recent note: Why would you join the ADF after the completion of the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicides? Seems to me that a Basket Case of the ADF and Veterans Affairs has been uncovered.

[Oldbloke]

Just on a more recent note: Why would you join the ADF after the completion of the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicides? Seems to me that a Basket Case of the ADF and Veterans Affairs has been uncovered.

Mate, I don't know what's going on. But the ADF in general is a basket case.

High suicides rates are perhaps just a symptom of what's going on.

[alexjones]

Just on a more recent note: Why would you join the ADF after the completion of the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicides? Seems to me that a Basket Case of the ADF and Veterans Affairs has been uncovered.

Why would anyone join the ADF or any public service for that matter since the government forced us with threat of imprisonment to hand over our private property and register what we were aloud to keep?

I would never join any public service apart from being a politician.