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Re: RBT

Post by Gaznazdiak » 06 Jun 2018, 10:02 am

I learned a long time ago that if you have a horse that's prone to pigrooting, the best way to stop the behaviour is to simply keep him away from the pig.
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Re: RBT

Post by bigfellascott » 06 Jun 2018, 10:18 am

Gaznazdiak wrote:I learned a long time ago that if you have a horse that's prone to pigrooting, the best way to stop the behaviour is to simply keep him away from the pig.


Good one Mick I like that :lol: :drinks:
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Re: RBT

Post by bigfellascott » 06 Jun 2018, 10:28 am

Gwion wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:
Daddybang wrote:
Rod_outbak wrote:
To say EVERY horse is going to behave more intelligently than the drunken fool on their back, is a recipe for disaster.
Neighbours have race horses, and often ride the retired ones for mustering, stock-work etc.
My understanding is that the traits that make a great race-horse, also make for some highly-strung animals.
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Thats where knowing ya horse comes into it.
Ya don't put horses that are skittish in that situation. I've got a mare here at the moment I won't ride out the yard let alone on a road. :thumbsup: :drinks:

Gwion wrote:If we were going to sit here and complain about bullshyte laws, we could be here all year and arguing the whole time because what you think is a good law I may not agree with and visa versa.

While you guys may all be horse whisperers who have always had the calmest, most sensible animals and legendary horse handling skills,
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Got nothing to do with being a horse whisperer (personally I think that's a load of sh@t) it's about knowing whether or not ya horse is capable of handling being out in a given situation which comes down to ya experience. Anyway we all cook a curry different and have different opinions if we didn't it'd be a boring old world!! :thumbsup: :drinks:


Spot on DB, it's all common sense, sadly as we know it's getting rarer by the generation. :drinks:


Most people don't have common sense... especially when they are PISSED!

Not all horses are calm. Not all horses are well trained. Not all riders are skillful.

I've known very skillful and experienced riders and they will all talk about horses as individuals with different quirks, fears and characteristics.

Trying to assert that people are generally safe to ride on the road while drunk is pretty silly...


And that's where the common sense thing comes in, one needs to know ones limitations hey. :thumbsup:

I remember years ago as a kid catching the bus from Hill End, the bus driver was famous for being a drinker and driver going by the smell on his breath, he used to drive that bus down the bridal track without a worry in the world, we'd do our shopping in Bathurst then on the bus we'd get and do the trip back home, the ol bus driver spent his time in the pub going by the smell.

And if anyone knows the Bridal Track they will know just how dangerous that thing is sober let alone with a skin full, some people can handle their drink and still function fine whilst others can have a beer and end up being as silly as a two bob watch and no G I'm not condoning drinking and driving so don't try a twist my works like you love to do, I'm just pointing out some people can still function fine after having a few and others well their lightweights I guess.
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Re: RBT

Post by Gwion » 06 Jun 2018, 11:19 am

This place needs a facepalm emoji!

No need for me to twist anything, BFS. You do a good job of it yourself...
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Re: RBT

Post by Bent Arrow » 06 Jun 2018, 11:30 am

Gwion wrote:
Trying to assert that people are generally safe to ride on the road while drunk is pretty silly...


That's not actually what I'm saying. I was responding to the original statement from Ziad
"Lol even I know drinking while riding a horse is a no no.... frig anyone who is even been near horses let alone own horses should know"

And your response "Exactly..."

I did say in my initial post that I wouldn't ride to and from the pub, and I'm not advocating that anyone should. But the implied suggestion that anyone that has been around horses that would get on a horse after having had a couple of coldies is a few cans short of a six pack (pun fully intended) is a bit rich.

As has been thrashed out already, some horses and rider combinations are better than others. Some horses have more quirks than others just as some people don't understand animal behaviour and can't ride for s**t! Hmmmm, come to think of it, some people don't understand how cars work or how to drive around a round-about or what a give way sign means............

Sorry to hear about your Mums friend, that's awful.
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Re: RBT

Post by bigpete » 06 Jun 2018, 12:08 pm

All your points are moot.
Its against the law.
Deal.
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Re: RBT

Post by Gaznazdiak » 06 Jun 2018, 12:17 pm

bigfellascott wrote:
Gaznazdiak wrote:I learned a long time ago that if you have a horse that's prone to pigrooting, the best way to stop the behaviour is to simply keep him away from the pig.


Good one Mick I like that :lol: :drinks:


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Re: RBT

Post by Gwion » 06 Jun 2018, 12:22 pm

bigpete wrote:All your points are moot.
Its against the law.
Deal.


Yep.
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Re: RBT

Post by brett1868 » 06 Jun 2018, 3:20 pm

I had a brother, he was killed by a drunk driver who was unlicensed due to a previous drink driving charge. His death destroyed my parents and till their deaths they never got over it. To add further salt to the wound the driver only got 3 years in minimum security, he was in a 4WD while my brother was on a bike and the defense made a big deal about motorcycles being dangerous.
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Re: RBT

Post by JimTom » 06 Jun 2018, 3:53 pm

Saddens me to hear that mate.
There are absolutely zero excuses for driving under the influence.
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Re: RBT

Post by Bent Arrow » 06 Jun 2018, 3:57 pm

brett1868 wrote:I had a brother, he was killed by a drunk driver who was unlicensed due to a previous drink driving charge. His death destroyed my parents and till their deaths they never got over it. To add further salt to the wound the driver only got 3 years in minimum security, he was in a 4WD while my brother was on a bike and the defense made a big deal about motorcycles being dangerous.


Sorry to hear that Brett. I've lost too many mates to car accidents but I can only imagine that it must be worse to loose a brother/sister or a child. Hopefully he's resting peacefully somewhere.
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Re: RBT

Post by Bent Arrow » 06 Jun 2018, 4:08 pm

Gwion wrote:
bigpete wrote:All your points are moot.
Its against the law.
Deal.


Yep.


Duly noted and acknowledged. Again, I'm not advocating illegal behaviour or even suggesting that type of behaviour should be legal. I was to responding to the original statement from Ziad "Lol even I know drinking while riding a horse is a no no.... frig anyone who is even been near horses let alone own horses should know".

If Ziad's comment was intended to mean that "people should know that riding a horse on a public road whilst under the influence is illegal" then it might have been clearer for us as the audience if he had said "all licenced drivers should know that driving any vehicle on a public road whilst under the influence is illegal, and furthermore that any licenced driver should know that a push bike or horse etc is legally defined as a vehicle". If that's what he meant, that's great. It's not how I interpreted what he said, the first or second time I read it. My initial interpretation was "anybody that gets on a horse once they've had a couple is an idiot". If said person rode that horse on a public road, then yes they're an idiot, and breaking the law, and deserve to be duly charged by the police.

Having reread Ziad's comment again, that's probably what he meant, and my mistake.

All that said and done, next time I feel like going or a ride on private property after having a beer or two with my Sunday lunch, I won't be worrying about being unable to control my horse or loosing my licence.
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Re: RBT

Post by Gwion » 06 Jun 2018, 4:14 pm

I took his meaning as, "horses can be unpredictable at the best of times so riding while drunk isn't clever".
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Re: RBT

Post by Gwion » 06 Jun 2018, 4:17 pm

Sorry to read of your loss, Brett. It's the kind of thing you carry for ever, even if you do learn to live with it.
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Re: RBT

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 06 Jun 2018, 5:53 pm

Lol looks like I cause a bit of confusion. I meant was even i know being over .05 while riding a horse is a big no no and can get you to lose your car license. As a horse is considered a vehicle in the eye of the law.

Now sure if you are in the middle of a large paddock and only had a couple drinks you could easily handle the horse in 99% of the situations, but horse is a flight animal and s**t happens even the most docile of horses can get a fright and if you are not 100% there could result in badness.
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Re: RBT

Post by Bent Arrow » 06 Jun 2018, 6:11 pm

Ziad wrote: and s**t happens....... could result in badness.


Yeah good point. I'll be sure to strap myself in to the safety of my lounge chair far away from potentially harmful animals next time I have a beer
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Re: RBT

Post by Bent Arrow » 06 Jun 2018, 6:12 pm

Ziad wrote: I meant was even i know being over .05 while riding a horse is a big no no and can get you to lose your car license. As a horse is considered a vehicle in the eye of the law.


Yep, I agree
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Re: RBT

Post by brett1868 » 06 Jun 2018, 9:43 pm

Gwion wrote:Sorry to read of your loss, Brett. It's the kind of thing you carry for ever, even if you do learn to live with it.


This happened 18 yrs ago but the pain is still there, especially around Christmas and Birthdays. It's one of the reasons I gave up drinking but also because I changed my attitude about driving. Getting behind the wheel to me is the same as placing my finger on a trigger, I want to be in the best mental condition possible cause both can turn deadly in the blink of an eye.
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