Gwion wrote:If you are on the road and in control of a vehicle while inebriated, you will get done. You are a danger to yourself and others. A horse can bolt or you coukd swerve your bike into traffic, creating a hazard for yourself and other road users.
Gwion wrote:If you are on the road and in control of a vehicle while inebriated, you will get done. You are a danger to yourself and others. A horse can bolt or you coukd swerve your bike into traffic, creating a hazard for yourself and other road users.
bigfellascott wrote:Gwion wrote:If you are on the road and in control of a vehicle while inebriated, you will get done. You are a danger to yourself and others. A horse can bolt or you coukd swerve your bike into traffic, creating a hazard for yourself and other road users.
And that couldn't possibly happen when you are sober could it?
Ziad wrote:Lol even I know drinking while riding a horse is a no no.... frig anyone who is even been near horses let alone own horses should know
JimTom wrote:Gwion wrote:If you are on the road and in control of a vehicle while inebriated, you will get done. You are a danger to yourself and others. A horse can bolt or you coukd swerve your bike into traffic, creating a hazard for yourself and other road users.
You’re not a police officer by any chance are you?
Gwion wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Gwion wrote:If you are on the road and in control of a vehicle while inebriated, you will get done. You are a danger to yourself and others. A horse can bolt or you coukd swerve your bike into traffic, creating a hazard for yourself and other road users.
And that couldn't possibly happen when you are sober could it?
By that logic you seem to support drink driving.
Anything could happen at any time but losing control of a vehicles is far more likely while the opperator is intoxicated. Horses and bikes are vehicular transportation.
Jon79 wrote:Remember the guy that got done riding the camel completely plastered? And tried to make a get away on the baby one but when he got too far away it ran back to its mother and the cops lol
Gwion wrote:Ziad wrote:Lol even I know drinking while riding a horse is a no no.... frig anyone who is even been near horses let alone own horses should know
Exactly...
Bent Arrow wrote:Gwion wrote:Ziad wrote:Lol even I know drinking while riding a horse is a no no.... frig anyone who is even been near horses let alone own horses should know
Exactly...
And your basing this on what? I grew up around horses, and ride either or both my quarter horse or warm blood/thoroughbred at least once a week. I jump the quarter horse in just a halter, no saddle or bridle and use him for horse archery (shooting arrows at static targets whilst cantering along). Whilst in practice I wouldn't ride one to and from the pub, I'd have to be so tanked to be a very long way over the limit to not feel comfortable in the saddle. Their own sense of self preservation and road sense is stronger than you might think.
Bent Arrow wrote:Gwion wrote:Ziad wrote:Lol even I know drinking while riding a horse is a no no.... frig anyone who is even been near horses let alone own horses should know
Exactly...
And your basing this on what? I grew up around horses, and ride either or both my quarter horse or warm blood/thoroughbred at least once a week. I jump the quarter horse in just a halter, no saddle or bridle and use him for horse archery (shooting arrows at static targets whilst cantering along). Whilst in practice I wouldn't ride one to and from the pub, I'd have to be so tanked to be a very long way over the limit to not feel comfortable in the saddle. Their own sense of self preservation and road sense is stronger than you might think.
Gwion wrote:
While you guys may all be horse whisperers who have always had the calmest, most sensible animals and legendary horse handling skills, the fact that they have a mind of their own can and does work both ways. Some horses are skittish and difficult to control, even when you are sober. I remember one horse I used to ride as a teenager. Big tall young quarter horse. Always wanted to be in the lead. If another horse got in front of him he would just bolt and you couldn't stop him, well I couldn't and he was known for it.
Hell, I regularly drive past horse riders on the side of the road and see the effort some are putting into controlling their animals. One girl I see stops her horse and faces it from the road when she hears a car coming behind.
Then there are all those horses that are known kickers, biters, pig rooters...
And the horse that bolted in front of my mum's friend's car, causing her to crash and become a paraplegic; it's sense of self preservation wasn't so high at the time....
Rod_outbak wrote:
To say EVERY horse is going to behave more intelligently than the drunken fool on their back, is a recipe for disaster.
Neighbours have race horses, and often ride the retired ones for mustering, stock-work etc.
My understanding is that the traits that make a great race-horse, also make for some highly-strung animals.
r.
Gwion wrote:If we were going to sit here and complain about bullshyte laws, we could be here all year and arguing the whole time because what you think is a good law I may not agree with and visa versa.
While you guys may all be horse whisperers who have always had the calmest, most sensible animals and legendary horse handling skills,
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Daddybang wrote:Rod_outbak wrote:
To say EVERY horse is going to behave more intelligently than the drunken fool on their back, is a recipe for disaster.
Neighbours have race horses, and often ride the retired ones for mustering, stock-work etc.
My understanding is that the traits that make a great race-horse, also make for some highly-strung animals.
r.
Thats where knowing ya horse comes into it.
Ya don't put horses that are skittish in that situation. I've got a mare here at the moment I won't ride out the yard let alone on a road.Gwion wrote:If we were going to sit here and complain about bullshyte laws, we could be here all year and arguing the whole time because what you think is a good law I may not agree with and visa versa.
While you guys may all be horse whisperers who have always had the calmest, most sensible animals and legendary horse handling skills,
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Got nothing to do with being a horse whisperer (personally I think that's a load of sh@t) it's about knowing whether or not ya horse is capable of handling being out in a given situation which comes down to ya experience. Anyway we all cook a curry different and have different opinions if we didn't it'd be a boring old world!!
Gwion wrote:If we were going to sit here and complain about bullshyte laws, we could be here all year and arguing the whole time because what you think is a good law I may not agree with and visa versa.
While you guys may all be horse whisperers who have always had the calmest, most sensible animals and legendary horse handling skills, the fact that they have a mind of their own can and does work both ways. Some horses are skittish and difficult to control, even when you are sober. I remember one horse I used to ride as a teenager. Big tall young quarter horse. Always wanted to be in the lead. If another horse got in front of him he would just bolt and you couldn't stop him, well I couldn't and he was known for it.
Hell, I regularly drive past horse riders on the side of the road and see the effort some are putting into controlling their animals. One girl I see stops her horse and faces it from the road when she hears a car coming behind.
Then there are all those horses that are known kickers, biters, pig rooters...
And the horse that bolted in front of my mum's friend's car, causing her to crash and become a paraplegic; it's sense of self preservation wasn't so high at the time.....
Besides all that, anything you have control of that is on the road (that is not your own two feet) is a vehicle. Horse, bike, lawnmower, motorised esky, large dog pulling a cart... small dog pulling a cart... scooter, etc.....
Being piggy backed by your mate doesn't count because you are not in 'control' of him, he is in 'control' of you and hopefully rational (or sober) enough not to follow your stupid drunken lead. Mind you, you can still get done for being drunk in public, you just won't lose your licence for it.
Gwion wrote:There was no person in charge of the horse and it wasn't my mum injured but a family friend.
bigfellascott wrote:Daddybang wrote:Rod_outbak wrote:
To say EVERY horse is going to behave more intelligently than the drunken fool on their back, is a recipe for disaster.
Neighbours have race horses, and often ride the retired ones for mustering, stock-work etc.
My understanding is that the traits that make a great race-horse, also make for some highly-strung animals.
r.
Thats where knowing ya horse comes into it.
Ya don't put horses that are skittish in that situation. I've got a mare here at the moment I won't ride out the yard let alone on a road.Gwion wrote:If we were going to sit here and complain about bullshyte laws, we could be here all year and arguing the whole time because what you think is a good law I may not agree with and visa versa.
While you guys may all be horse whisperers who have always had the calmest, most sensible animals and legendary horse handling skills,
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Got nothing to do with being a horse whisperer (personally I think that's a load of sh@t) it's about knowing whether or not ya horse is capable of handling being out in a given situation which comes down to ya experience. Anyway we all cook a curry different and have different opinions if we didn't it'd be a boring old world!!
Spot on DB, it's all common sense, sadly as we know it's getting rarer by the generation.