Gwion wrote:
While you guys may all be horse whisperers who have always had the calmest, most sensible animals and legendary horse handling skills, the fact that they have a mind of their own can and does work both ways. Some horses are skittish and difficult to control, even when you are sober. I remember one horse I used to ride as a teenager. Big tall young quarter horse. Always wanted to be in the lead. If another horse got in front of him he would just bolt and you couldn't stop him, well I couldn't and he was known for it.
Hell, I regularly drive past horse riders on the side of the road and see the effort some are putting into controlling their animals. One girl I see stops her horse and faces it from the road when she hears a car coming behind.
Then there are all those horses that are known kickers, biters, pig rooters...
And the horse that bolted in front of my mum's friend's car, causing her to crash and become a paraplegic; it's sense of self preservation wasn't so high at the time....
Rod_outbak wrote:
To say EVERY horse is going to behave more intelligently than the drunken fool on their back, is a recipe for disaster.
Neighbours have race horses, and often ride the retired ones for mustering, stock-work etc.
My understanding is that the traits that make a great race-horse, also make for some highly-strung animals.
r.
Gwion wrote:If we were going to sit here and complain about bullshyte laws, we could be here all year and arguing the whole time because what you think is a good law I may not agree with and visa versa.
While you guys may all be horse whisperers who have always had the calmest, most sensible animals and legendary horse handling skills,
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Daddybang wrote:Rod_outbak wrote:
To say EVERY horse is going to behave more intelligently than the drunken fool on their back, is a recipe for disaster.
Neighbours have race horses, and often ride the retired ones for mustering, stock-work etc.
My understanding is that the traits that make a great race-horse, also make for some highly-strung animals.
r.
Thats where knowing ya horse comes into it.
Ya don't put horses that are skittish in that situation. I've got a mare here at the moment I won't ride out the yard let alone on a road.Gwion wrote:If we were going to sit here and complain about bullshyte laws, we could be here all year and arguing the whole time because what you think is a good law I may not agree with and visa versa.
While you guys may all be horse whisperers who have always had the calmest, most sensible animals and legendary horse handling skills,
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Got nothing to do with being a horse whisperer (personally I think that's a load of sh@t) it's about knowing whether or not ya horse is capable of handling being out in a given situation which comes down to ya experience. Anyway we all cook a curry different and have different opinions if we didn't it'd be a boring old world!!
Gwion wrote:If we were going to sit here and complain about bullshyte laws, we could be here all year and arguing the whole time because what you think is a good law I may not agree with and visa versa.
While you guys may all be horse whisperers who have always had the calmest, most sensible animals and legendary horse handling skills, the fact that they have a mind of their own can and does work both ways. Some horses are skittish and difficult to control, even when you are sober. I remember one horse I used to ride as a teenager. Big tall young quarter horse. Always wanted to be in the lead. If another horse got in front of him he would just bolt and you couldn't stop him, well I couldn't and he was known for it.
Hell, I regularly drive past horse riders on the side of the road and see the effort some are putting into controlling their animals. One girl I see stops her horse and faces it from the road when she hears a car coming behind.
Then there are all those horses that are known kickers, biters, pig rooters...
And the horse that bolted in front of my mum's friend's car, causing her to crash and become a paraplegic; it's sense of self preservation wasn't so high at the time.....
Besides all that, anything you have control of that is on the road (that is not your own two feet) is a vehicle. Horse, bike, lawnmower, motorised esky, large dog pulling a cart... small dog pulling a cart... scooter, etc.....
Being piggy backed by your mate doesn't count because you are not in 'control' of him, he is in 'control' of you and hopefully rational (or sober) enough not to follow your stupid drunken lead. Mind you, you can still get done for being drunk in public, you just won't lose your licence for it.
Gwion wrote:There was no person in charge of the horse and it wasn't my mum injured but a family friend.
bigfellascott wrote:Daddybang wrote:Rod_outbak wrote:
To say EVERY horse is going to behave more intelligently than the drunken fool on their back, is a recipe for disaster.
Neighbours have race horses, and often ride the retired ones for mustering, stock-work etc.
My understanding is that the traits that make a great race-horse, also make for some highly-strung animals.
r.
Thats where knowing ya horse comes into it.
Ya don't put horses that are skittish in that situation. I've got a mare here at the moment I won't ride out the yard let alone on a road.Gwion wrote:If we were going to sit here and complain about bullshyte laws, we could be here all year and arguing the whole time because what you think is a good law I may not agree with and visa versa.
While you guys may all be horse whisperers who have always had the calmest, most sensible animals and legendary horse handling skills,
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Got nothing to do with being a horse whisperer (personally I think that's a load of sh@t) it's about knowing whether or not ya horse is capable of handling being out in a given situation which comes down to ya experience. Anyway we all cook a curry different and have different opinions if we didn't it'd be a boring old world!!
Spot on DB, it's all common sense, sadly as we know it's getting rarer by the generation.
Gaznazdiak wrote:I learned a long time ago that if you have a horse that's prone to pigrooting, the best way to stop the behaviour is to simply keep him away from the pig.
Gwion wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Daddybang wrote:Rod_outbak wrote:
To say EVERY horse is going to behave more intelligently than the drunken fool on their back, is a recipe for disaster.
Neighbours have race horses, and often ride the retired ones for mustering, stock-work etc.
My understanding is that the traits that make a great race-horse, also make for some highly-strung animals.
r.
Thats where knowing ya horse comes into it.
Ya don't put horses that are skittish in that situation. I've got a mare here at the moment I won't ride out the yard let alone on a road.Gwion wrote:If we were going to sit here and complain about bullshyte laws, we could be here all year and arguing the whole time because what you think is a good law I may not agree with and visa versa.
While you guys may all be horse whisperers who have always had the calmest, most sensible animals and legendary horse handling skills,
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Got nothing to do with being a horse whisperer (personally I think that's a load of sh@t) it's about knowing whether or not ya horse is capable of handling being out in a given situation which comes down to ya experience. Anyway we all cook a curry different and have different opinions if we didn't it'd be a boring old world!!
Spot on DB, it's all common sense, sadly as we know it's getting rarer by the generation.
Most people don't have common sense... especially when they are PISSED!
Not all horses are calm. Not all horses are well trained. Not all riders are skillful.
I've known very skillful and experienced riders and they will all talk about horses as individuals with different quirks, fears and characteristics.
Trying to assert that people are generally safe to ride on the road while drunk is pretty silly...
Gwion wrote:
Trying to assert that people are generally safe to ride on the road while drunk is pretty silly...
bigfellascott wrote:Gaznazdiak wrote:I learned a long time ago that if you have a horse that's prone to pigrooting, the best way to stop the behaviour is to simply keep him away from the pig.
Good one Mick I like that
bigpete wrote:All your points are moot.
Its against the law.
Deal.
brett1868 wrote:I had a brother, he was killed by a drunk driver who was unlicensed due to a previous drink driving charge. His death destroyed my parents and till their deaths they never got over it. To add further salt to the wound the driver only got 3 years in minimum security, he was in a 4WD while my brother was on a bike and the defense made a big deal about motorcycles being dangerous.
Gwion wrote:bigpete wrote:All your points are moot.
Its against the law.
Deal.
Yep.
Ziad wrote: and s**t happens....... could result in badness.
Ziad wrote: I meant was even i know being over .05 while riding a horse is a big no no and can get you to lose your car license. As a horse is considered a vehicle in the eye of the law.
Gwion wrote:Sorry to read of your loss, Brett. It's the kind of thing you carry for ever, even if you do learn to live with it.