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Re: tikka t3 bolt blow up

Post by Member-Deleted » 07 Oct 2018, 5:13 pm

Oldbloke wrote: I got lucky at the weekend. Fired off a shot and just a mild pop. When I checked I'd loaded a 30-06 with NO powder. Tapped out the bullet and all good. But what if???

I did the same thing myself once... Once! 30 plus years ago when i was a teenager I fired a shortloaded .38 Special and the the primer was enough to push it half way down the barrel of the Smith & Wesson K frame .38 revolver, Being young and dumb, I went "that was weird" and promptly fired another. Thankfully for me, I had shortloaded that one too, and so the end result was 2 wadcutters stuck in the barrel [but no barrel bulge or frame damage] and an earnest talking to from my father about how I had just narrowly avoided a lifelong nickname of 'Stumpy'.
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Re: tikka t3 bolt blow up

Post by duncan61 » 07 Oct 2018, 5:15 pm

dumbest thing I have seen is the other shooter that was out bush had a live cracker in his .223 and for some reason took the woodwork off and came to the resort workshop where I was.I said put it back together get on the quad go out the bush a bit and shoot it and it will extract or you can at least push the case out with a rod and all good.Dont you love it when people ask what to do you tell them and they ignore you that night back at there camp he must of pulled the trigger and nearly shot the other guy in the leg
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Re: tikka t3 bolt blow up

Post by bigrich » 08 Oct 2018, 7:18 am

Stoney wrote:It was not only dangerous to the shooter but also those on the benches beside the shooter. Perhaps Ripley should look at partitions between rests for safety in the future. It would also cut down on the shock waves, when firing the big guns, hitting the roof and coming straight down on the shooters neighbour.


what ? what did ya say stoney ? cant hear ya from that muzzle braked tac rifle shooting beside me :lol: and my hair is parted on the other side now ..... :lol: does keep the flies away but, i'm sure i saw one get vaporized by the blast from a braked 300 win mag one time ...... :lol: the thought of what can happen to the guy next to a blow up did cross my mind :shock: , it's a damn good idea ,whether ripley's got the money to spend on doing it, or SSAA management want to bother implementing it is the question. maybe i should make a few inquiries , don't want to ruffle any feathers but, aside from the blast rebound off that tin roof i like it out there. had to stop shooting for a bit yesterday as a roo and a joey got grazing on top of the 25 yard bank :lol: :lol: :lol: the dirt road in is pretty pot holed and corrugated at the moment, i don't mind in my fourby , keeps a lot of those pesky belmont shooters away :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :drinks: :thumbsup:
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Re: tikka t3 bolt blow up

Post by TheDude » 08 Oct 2018, 10:52 am

bigrich wrote:
Stoney wrote:It was not only dangerous to the shooter but also those on the benches beside the shooter. Perhaps Ripley should look at partitions between rests for safety in the future. It would also cut down on the shock waves, when firing the big guns, hitting the roof and coming straight down on the shooters neighbour.


what ? what did ya say stoney ? cant hear ya from that muzzle braked tac rifle shooting beside me :lol: and my hair is parted on the other side now ..... :lol: does keep the flies away but, i'm sure i saw one get vaporized by the blast from a braked 300 win mag one time ...... :lol: the thought of what can happen to the guy next to a blow up did cross my mind :shock: , it's a damn good idea ,whether ripley's got the money to spend on doing it, or SSAA management want to bother implementing it is the question. maybe i should make a few inquiries , don't want to ruffle any feathers but, aside from the blast rebound off that tin roof i like it out there. had to stop shooting for a bit yesterday as a roo and a joey got grazing on top of the 25 yard bank :lol: :lol: :lol: the dirt road in is pretty pot holed and corrugated at the moment, i don't mind in my fourby , keeps a lot of those pesky belmont shooters away :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :drinks: :thumbsup:


Unfortunately doesn’t scare enough of the away. Was at Ripley in Friday and it was still bloody busy. There were a few waiting for benches mid morning
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Post by bigrich » 08 Oct 2018, 11:19 am

well dude, maybe we need to make those pot holes BIGGER ! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbsup:
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 08 Oct 2018, 11:21 am

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bigrich wrote:
Stoney wrote:It was not only dangerous to the shooter but also those on the benches beside the shooter. Perhaps Ripley should look at partitions between rests for safety in the future. It would also cut down on the shock waves, when firing the big guns, hitting the roof and coming straight down on the shooters neighbour.


what ? what did ya say stoney ? cant hear ya from that muzzle braked tac rifle shooting beside me :lol: and my hair is parted on the other side now ..... :lol: does keep the flies away but, i'm sure i saw one get vaporized by the blast from a braked 300 win mag one time ...... :lol: the thought of what can happen to the guy next to a blow up did cross my mind :shock: , it's a damn good idea ,whether ripley's got the money to spend on doing it, or SSAA management want to bother implementing it is the question. maybe i should make a few inquiries , don't want to ruffle any feathers but, aside from the blast rebound off that tin roof i like it out there. had to stop shooting for a bit yesterday as a roo and a joey got grazing on top of the 25 yard bank :lol: :lol: :lol: the dirt road in is pretty pot holed and corrugated at the moment, i don't mind in my fourby , keeps a lot of those pesky belmont shooters away :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :drinks: :thumbsup:


Unfortunately doesn’t scare enough of the away. Was at Ripley in Friday and it was still bloody busy. There were a few waiting for benches mid morning


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Having to queue up with strangers just to kill some paper or test some loads would sh!t me to tears.

Having to spend my life pressed up against the neighbours, looking out your windows straight into their's makes me come over all claustrophobic.
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Re: tikka t3 bolt blow up

Post by bigrich » 08 Oct 2018, 3:42 pm

i'd like a life in the country gazz, i could sell my house and gear and do it financially , but getting work in reigonal areas is the worry for me. about every 6-8 weeks i get to go on properties up in the tops of the mountains around tenterfield. and i tell ya, i really, REALLY appreciate the place and the people when i'm there. i've helped with timber cutting and mustering/moving livestock when i've bin there to show my gratitude to the landowners. killing paper and learning/developing reloads is good training for me to be compitent out in the field with a rifle is a good thing. it's all relative i suppose gaz, the 'burbs is whats normal for me, and finding work has never bin hard. i'm a country person at heart i reckon, i live halfway between brisbane and the gold coast, and only go into brissy for gun stuff. and the gold coast has too many plastic people for my liking. city life would sh@t me too gaz :drinks: :thumbsup:
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Re: tikka t3 bolt blow up

Post by Oldbloke » 08 Oct 2018, 5:48 pm

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Oldbloke wrote: I got lucky at the weekend. Fired off a shot and just a mild pop. When I checked I'd loaded a 30-06 with NO powder. Tapped out the bullet and all good. But what if???

I did the same thing myself once... Once! 30 plus years ago when i was a teenager I fired a shortloaded .38 Special and the the primer was enough to push it half way down the barrel of the Smith & Wesson K frame .38 revolver, Being young and dumb, I went "that was weird" and promptly fired another. Thankfully for me, I had shortloaded that one too, and so the end result was 2 wadcutters stuck in the barrel [but no barrel bulge or frame damage] and an earnest talking to from my father about how I had just narrowly avoided a lifelong nickname of 'Stumpy'.



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Post by Sergeant Hartman » 08 Oct 2018, 6:02 pm

Well I have basically best of both worlds, 6 acres, gave up my IT/health job, work on the farm... but 5 minutes from centre of hustle and bustle of the suburbs. 7 minutes from the place we were living in with 5 neighbors overlooking the backyard.

The only issue, I still have city type neighbors.... so I suppose can't have everything
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Post by bigrich » 08 Oct 2018, 6:11 pm

Ziad wrote:Well I have basically best of both worlds, 6 acres, gave up my IT/health job, work on the farm... but 5 minutes from centre of hustle and bustle of the suburbs. 7 minutes from the place we were living in with 5 neighbors overlooking the backyard.

The only issue, I still have city type neighbors.... so I suppose can't have everything


doesn't sound too bad mate :thumbsup:
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 08 Oct 2018, 6:26 pm

bigrich wrote:i'd like a life in the country gazz, i could sell my house and gear and do it financially , but getting work in reigonal areas is the worry for me. about every 6-8 weeks i get to go on properties up in the tops of the mountains around tenterfield. and i tell ya, i really, REALLY appreciate the place and the people when i'm there. i've helped with timber cutting and mustering/moving livestock when i've bin there to show my gratitude to the landowners. killing paper and learning/developing reloads is good training for me to be compitent out in the field with a rifle is a good thing. it's all relative i suppose gaz, the 'burbs is whats normal for me, and finding work has never bin hard. i'm a country person at heart i reckon, i live halfway between brisbane and the gold coast, and only go into brissy for gun stuff. and the gold coast has too many plastic people for my liking. city life would sh@t me too gaz :drinks: :thumbsup:


I'm hearing you Bigrich.
If everyone lived in the country, we'd still be back jn the Neolithic. Centralization, and the specialization of skills has been necessary to get us here but it makes things like Brisbane and Sydney inevitable neccessary ills.

I'm a little further on the other end of the spectrum, injuries mean I can't work so it's not vital whether I live urban or rural, and living alone in the bush and only having to go to town for a few hrs a month I'm quite accustomed to being alone 99% of the time and after all these years, I've grown to prefer it.

Being a hermit with technology and firearms will do me. :thumbsup:
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Re: tikka t3 bolt blow up

Post by Gaznazdiak » 08 Oct 2018, 6:29 pm

bigrich wrote:
Ziad wrote:Well I have basically best of both worlds, 6 acres, gave up my IT/health job, work on the farm... but 5 minutes from centre of hustle and bustle of the suburbs. 7 minutes from the place we were living in with 5 neighbors overlooking the backyard.

The only issue, I still have city type neighbors.... so I suppose can't have everything


doesn't sound too bad mate :thumbsup:


Best of both worlds Ziad, a taste of the country with city convenience right next door.
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Re: tikka t3 bolt blow up

Post by Gwion » 09 Oct 2018, 10:08 am

Oldbloke wrote:Normally I check them all by having a look using a torch. Just to confirm they are all more or less filled to the same level. (it's a basic safety check) I think in this case due to doing it in a rush I didn't do that.


This is why i load one case at a time. Prime all. Then one by one, weigh in powder then seat bullet. Next case...
Might be slower but at least i have piece of mind.
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Post by BRNO_Bigot » 30 Oct 2018, 8:53 pm

Seen the results of exactly the same thing back in RSA in the old days - rifle also stopped working on the second shot.

Shooter brought it back to the shop to complain that the bolt wouldn't open and why had the bottom dropped out of the magazine and why had the stock cracked on both sides of the action?

The gunshop tried to make the shooter look guilty, but I thought that since the guy came in asking for a 308, admitted he knew nothing and they sold him a 270 and 308 ammo, that it was their fault, but ....

Another one was written up in an RSA magazine called Magnum - a guy fired a 308 round in a .25-06 with regrettable results, and the shooter lost a few fingers IIRC - the front stock shattering.

Then, here in Oz - it happened twice in one day at two different clubs I was a member of - in the first one, a laddie let off two rounds of 7mm-08 in his beautiful Beretta O/U Double rifle in .30-06 - result - mainly embarrassment and funny straight-walled cases.

The same day, I popped into another club and one of the shooters was complaining that his Sako Quad was shooting crap - he didn't know what was wrong - all his 17-HMR cases were blown out and split - it happens if you have the .22WMR barrel on, it appears.
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Re: tikka t3 bolt blow up

Post by BRNO_Bigot » 30 Oct 2018, 8:58 pm

Gwion wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Normally I check them all by having a look using a torch. Just to confirm they are all more or less filled to the same level. (it's a basic safety check) I think in this case due to doing it in a rush I didn't do that.


This is why i load one case at a time. Prime all. Then one by one, weigh in powder then seat bullet. Next case...
Might be slower but at least i have piece of mind.



I do things differently - after preparing cases and trimming and chamfering, and so on, I put them mouth up in a loading block- then I prime them all, with a hand primer, returning them to the block, neck down, with their newly installed primers showing to the gods and me.

Then I charge each one individually, returning it to the block, mouth up. When all are done, I use a torch and check that each one contains powder and is the same height - any doubts and I empty the powder and reweigh.

Then I seat each bullet returning it to the block bullet down again.

It's not what everyone does, but it's been my habit since the early 1980s and it's worked for me.
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Post by Tiger650 » 30 Oct 2018, 9:24 pm

Obviously powder can also be a trap, I tape down container lids with white duct tape and write caliber on that.
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Post by Stix » 30 Oct 2018, 9:56 pm

BRNO_Bigot wrote:I do things differently - after preparing cases and trimming and chamfering, and so on, I put them mouth up in a loading block- then I prime them all, with a hand primer, returning them to the block, neck down, with their newly installed primers showing to the gods and me.

Then I charge each one individually, returning it to the block, mouth up. When all are done, I use a torch and check that each one contains powder and is the same height - any doubts and I empty the powder and reweigh.

Then I seat each bullet returning it to the block bullet down again.

It's not what everyone does, but it's been my habit since the early 1980s and it's worked for me.


Thats what i do BRNO... :thumbsup: ...except the bullet down at the end....no real need for that as the bullet itself in the neck is enough confirmation of the final step being complete.
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Re: tikka t3 bolt blow up

Post by bigrich » 31 Oct 2018, 4:38 am

Stix wrote:
BRNO_Bigot wrote:I do things differently - after preparing cases and trimming and chamfering, and so on, I put them mouth up in a loading block- then I prime them all, with a hand primer, returning them to the block, neck down, with their newly installed primers showing to the gods and me.

Then I charge each one individually, returning it to the block, mouth up. When all are done, I use a torch and check that each one contains powder and is the same height - any doubts and I empty the powder and reweigh.

Then I seat each bullet returning it to the block bullet down again.

It's not what everyone does, but it's been my habit since the early 1980s and it's worked for me.


Thats what i do BRNO... :thumbsup: ...except the bullet down at the end....no real need for that as the bullet itself in the neck is enough confirmation of the final step being complete.


That’s my method as well fellas. Great minds think alike hey ? Cheers
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Re: tikka t3 bolt blow up

Post by BRNO_Bigot » 31 Oct 2018, 12:17 pm

bigrich wrote:
Stix wrote:
BRNO_Bigot wrote:I do things differently - after preparing cases and trimming and chamfering, and so on, I put them mouth up in a loading block- then I prime them all, with a hand primer, returning them to the block, neck down, with their newly installed primers showing to the gods and me.

Then I charge each one individually, returning it to the block, mouth up. When all are done, I use a torch and check that each one contains powder and is the same height - any doubts and I empty the powder and reweigh.

Then I seat each bullet returning it to the block bullet down again.

It's not what everyone does, but it's been my habit since the early 1980s and it's worked for me.


Thats what i do BRNO... :thumbsup: ...except the bullet down at the end....no real need for that as the bullet itself in the neck is enough confirmation of the final step being complete.


That’s my method as well fellas. Great minds think alike hey ? Cheers


Yep, I think it's a form of Time and Motion Study. How can I do the most with the fewest actions?

That's the way it turned out for me, so it's not really surprising that others would develop it as well.

BTW - the reason I put the loaded rounds back is so that, when I put them into the box, I can give them a final inspection, and maybe a rub with a cloth. Then I know I've inspected them with my mind on the task of inspecting, not chopping and changing tasks from weighing to seating to inspecting. It's the way MY mind works - others may do things differently and if it works for them, it's really no skin off my nose.
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Re: tikka t3 bolt blow up

Post by bigrich » 31 Oct 2018, 2:04 pm

I’ve been in the metal trades most of my life, so I’m used to being organised in processing and production work, where you put everything through the one process, then the next after that. Keeps it simple
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Re: tikka t3 bolt blow up

Post by Gaznazdiak » 31 Oct 2018, 3:13 pm

BRNO_Bigot wrote:
bigrich wrote:
Stix wrote:
BRNO_Bigot wrote:I do things differently - after preparing cases and trimming and chamfering, and so on, I put them mouth up in a loading block- then I prime them all, with a hand primer, returning them to the block, neck down, with their newly installed primers showing to the gods and me.

Then I charge each one individually, returning it to the block, mouth up. When all are done, I use a torch and check that each one contains powder and is the same height - any doubts and I empty the powder and reweigh.

Then I seat each bullet returning it to the block bullet down again.

It's not what everyone does, but it's been my habit since the early 1980s and it's worked for me.


Thats what i do BRNO... :thumbsup: ...except the bullet down at the end....no real need for that as the bullet itself in the neck is enough confirmation of the final step being complete.


That’s my method as well fellas. Great minds think alike hey ? Cheers


Yep, I think it's a form of Time and Motion Study. How can I do the most with the fewest actions?

That's the way it turned out for me, so it's not really surprising that others would develop it as well.

BTW - the reason I put the loaded rounds back is so that, when I put them into the box, I can give them a final inspection, and maybe a rub with a cloth. Then I know I've inspected them with my mind on the task of inspecting, not chopping and changing tasks from weighing to seating to inspecting. It's the way MY mind works - others may do things differently and if it works for them, it's really no skin off my nose.


Your are right that we do it a particular way because that's how our minds work.

In my case, I have a brain injury that means my short term memory can be unreliable, so I build one bullet to completion at a time.

I start by priming all the cases I'm going to load and store them in a block, nose down, so I can see they're ready to start. I count out a corresponding number of projectiles and put them on a little tray next to the block, then I take a case, weigh the powder, charge the case and seat the pill, give it a wipe down and final inspection and that is one I know has been completed and is ready to fire. That also eliminates the need to have charged cases lying around that I need to re-check or with my wobbles and twitches, might knock arse over and need to redo, everything is done within my goldfish sized short term memory span.
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