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Post by Chappo » 13 Oct 2018, 3:58 pm

Bed ridden with man flu that i caught from my daughter. (Didn't realise that was even possible!!)
Feel like s**t and bored senseless so i thought id start a thread to cheer me up.
Just like opinions, everyones got one, wether you love the classic design and workmanship, the accuracy or just the nostalgia of owning grampas old model 2, these old pre 70's (ish) bits of czech timber and steel live in nearly every safe in aus.
Battered and bruised or loved and well looked after, lets see them! :drinks:
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Post by Apollo » 13 Oct 2018, 4:41 pm

Don't know about battered and bruised but rather well looked after.

I'm the second owner of a very accurate and neat 1965 Brno Model 2, it's going to stay that way too.

It's shot quite a few rabbits n foxes amoungst other things and a lot of targets. It holds it own against dedicated custom made target rifles out to 200 yards.

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And then when you go Target Shooting or "punching paper" as Scott would say it gets a Scope Upgrade.... :D

Just a March EP Zoom 36-55x52mm.

BTW The Picatinny Rail is a "DIP" CZ 527 16mm Dovetail 20 MOA from Delta Tactical.....

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Post by ClaytonT88 » 13 Oct 2018, 4:48 pm

:thumbsup: That's a beautiful bit of gear Apollo! Good thread Chappo
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Post by Chappo » 13 Oct 2018, 5:10 pm

Looks in top nick appollo!
Cheers clayton, ill get a couple of pics up of mine when i can drag my face off the pillow!
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Post by bigfellascott » 13 Oct 2018, 5:23 pm

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Post by Apollo » 13 Oct 2018, 6:03 pm

That's not "Pre 70's" I bet....more like 80's odd being a 2E. But then, it's still a Brno.
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Post by bigfellascott » 13 Oct 2018, 6:46 pm

Yeah I think mines a 86 or 88 version, can't remember now. Yours is pretty plain looking compared to my wood Lindsay, mines Beech from memory, I take it your ins walnut or something like it..
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Post by Apollo » 13 Oct 2018, 6:49 pm

bigfellascott wrote:Yeah I think mines a 86 or 88 version, can't remember now. Yours is pretty plain looking compared to my wood Lindsay, mines Beech from memory, I take it your ins walnut or something like it..


Yes, it's Walnut... with it's factory checkering.

Thinking back, I have a feeling they called the Walnut version the "Deluxe" and it probably is be a bit heavier than the Beech version. Who cares, nothing shoots like an old Brno.... :drinks:
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Post by bigfellascott » 13 Oct 2018, 7:00 pm

Apollo wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:Yeah I think mines a 86 or 88 version, can't remember now. Yours is pretty plain looking compared to my wood Lindsay, mines Beech from memory, I take it your ins walnut or something like it..


Yes, it's Walnut... with it's factory checkering still.... ;) ;) :sarcasm:

Thinking back, I have a feeling they called the Walnut version the "Deluxe" and it is probably be a bit heavier. Who cares, noting shoots like an old Brno.... :drinks:


I'm not sure mine even came with checkering to be honest (I can't remember) yeah I would imagine yours would be slightly heavier. that's one thing I like about the little brno is it's nice and light and handles very well.
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Post by Apollo » 13 Oct 2018, 7:07 pm

Sorry Scott, I edited my post.

Best memory is the Deluxe versions were Walnut with the checkering. The Beech did not have checkering and were their base versions.

As far as I can recall the stock was the only difference.

Don't ask me which one's had a 16mm, 3/8" or 11mm Dovetail.
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Post by bladeracer » 13 Oct 2018, 7:35 pm

My only Brno is my 1943 dou Kar98k.
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Post by Apollo » 13 Oct 2018, 8:00 pm

Excuse my ignorance but what makes a Karabiner 98 a Brno..???

The only thing I came up with was "dou for Waffenwerke Brünn in Bystrica" . Sorry. I'm trying to figure out the connection with Brno.

I know absolutely nothing about these old military arms.
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Post by bladeracer » 13 Oct 2018, 8:04 pm

Apollo wrote:Excuse my ignorance but what makes a Karabiner 98 a Brno..???

The only thing I came up with was "dou for Waffenwerke Brünn in Bystrica" . Sorry. I'm trying to figure out the connection with Brno.

I know absolutely nothing about these old military arms.


It was made at the Brno factory.
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Post by bladeracer » 13 Oct 2018, 8:12 pm

Brno manufactured lots of military firearms for decades.
When Germany invaded Czechoslovakia, Brno began producing German military firearms, as happened in most invaded countries.

https://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbrojovka_Brno&prev=search

"Zbrojovka Brno , founded in 1918 as Československá státní zbrojovka (Czechoslovak State Arms Factory), was one of the most important armaments and engineering companies in Czechoslovakia and was the world leader in some of its products. Their products, which included not only arms (rifles, machine guns, pistols) but also automobiles, tractors, machine tools, motors and others, were usually manufactured under the brand name Z or ZB .

The traditional company, founded in 1918 and last operating under the name Zbrojovka Brno , was wound up in 2006 after bankruptcy. The company Brno Rifles , which was founded in 2004 and acquired licenses and trademark rights and was renamed Zbrojovka Brno in 2010, is a subsidiary of Česká zbrojovka (ČZUB) with the name acquired in 2010 until today."

"In Brno , until the end of the First World War, the Austro-Hungarian artillery workshops, the K. uk Waffenhauptfabrik branch in Brno (1916-1918), a branch of the Vienna Arsenal , made weapons for the kuk army .

After the founding of Czechoslovakia in November 1918, the site and the workshops were taken over by the Brno National Committee and bore various names, such as Státní zbrojovka a strojírna v Brně and Československá zbrojovka a strojírna v Brně ( State and Czechoslovak Arms and Machinery Factory in Brno ). Above all different machine parts were repaired. On January 20, 1919 [Fn 2] the factory was renamed Československá státní zbrojovka (Czechoslovak State Arms Factory). From 1923 the company was called Československé závody na výrobu zbraní (Czechoslovak factory for the production of weapons) . In 1924 there was a retroactive renaming to Československá zbrojovka Brno , the company also became a public company . After the occupation of Czechoslovakia , the politically undesirable attribute "Czechoslovak" was deleted from the name and there was the Zbrojovka Brno , which was affiliated to the Hermann Göring works under the German name Waffenwerke Brno . On 27 October 1945, the factory was nationalized and was still Czech Zbrojovka Brno . In the period from 1954 to 1968, the company was named Závody Jana Švermy Brno , after which it was renamed Zbrojovka Brno . After 1989, the company has again adopted the legal form of a public limited company.

Already in the 1960s, the communist government made shifts and outsourcing of production (especially in the 1980s in favor of the company Česká zbrojovka in Uherský Brod, also ČZUB, which, however, the products continue to market under the original trademark ZB [7] ); as a result, under the new market conditions in the 1990s, the company increasingly ran into difficulties. An attempt was made to counter this by rebuilding the company in 1999/2000, which consisted of setting up a holding company with four subsidiaries that had been divested by outsourcing:

Zbrojovka Brno Trade
Zbrojovka Brno Arms
Zbrojovka Brno Metal (founded in 1999, dissolved by resolution of the shareholders to June 13, 2006 [8] )
Zbrojovka Brno Technologies (after the bankruptcy of 2002 replaced by Zbrojovka Brno Výroba )
The parent company itself shrank and employed only a dozen employees in 2001/2002. In March 2003 Zbrojovka had to declare bankruptcy with the subsidiaries nonetheless, it was settled, the production stopped in 2006 and 2007, the company-owned property including real estate and inventory was auctioned. [11]

At the same time, Brno Rifles was founded on May 14, 2004 as a 100% subsidiary of ČZUB, which previously produced bolt action rifles for hunters and was interested in existing Zbrojovka new constructions. As early as 2006, ČZUB and Brno Rifles purchased parts of Zbrojovka Brno's production facilities and took over most of their employees. After ČZUB won the Zbrojovka Brno trademark and logo in mid-2010, on July 2, 2010, it renamed the Brno Rifles subsidiary in Zbrojovka Brno (Ltd.). [11] [12] [13] [14] For example, even though the Zbrojovka Brno website, which can be reached today, maintains its tradition dating back to 1918, these two companies should not be confused."

"During the Second World War, the company made German rifles for the Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS German rifles such as the Mauser carbine 98k and the rifle 33/40 and formerly Czech models under new designations; Also produced was a machine gun and an anti-aircraft gun."

"In the beginning Zbrojovka was engaged in repairs of rifles and machine guns, spare parts were made. It was the rifle Mannlicher 1895 and the machine gun Schwarzlose from remnants of the Austrian army in large numbers.

From the black lot MG was the own model vz. 7/24 (or M07 / 24 ) developed and produced in large numbers. The production and further development of Mannlicher rifles was largely abandoned in favor of Mauser's models. As a result of the Treaty of Versailles, the production of weapons in Germany was severely limited, the company (with financial help from the Ministry of Defense in Prague) bought the complete machinery, licenses and documentation of the rifle Mauser Karabiner 98 in Oberndorf - as well as the license of the gun Mauser 1914 . These two weapons were under the designations rifle vz. 24 and pistol vz. 24 produced; the designer of the pistol, Ing. Josef Nickl, later worked in Brno himself. [4] [3] Especially the rifle vz. 24 became a successful product of Zbrojovka Brno : from this model 2 million pieces were produced until 1938, the Czechoslovak army bought about 750,000 pieces, the remainder was exported all over the world. [16]

In the interwar period, also some machine guns were developed, including by the designer Václav Holek , which were later used extensively in some armies during the Second World War. Here is above all the light machine gun ZB vz. 26 from the year 1924, based on the prototype Praga 1024 and its serial production began in 1926; There were several variants, including especially ZB vz. 27 and ZB vz. 30 , the produced total number of all variants amounts to about 145,000 pieces. In addition, the heavy machine gun ZB vz. 37 developed and manufactured. Both for the light and the heavy machine gun, the British military was interested. After the Royal Small Arms Factory in the 1930s some copies of the models vz. 26 and vz. 30 tested, a license was purchased from Brno for a model for the British .303 cartridge , which was then produced under the name Bren in Canada and other countries from 1935 to 1971; The machine gun was in use until the 1990s. In addition, the British military agreed with the Czech manufacturer, the licensing of the heavy machine gun ZB vz. 37, which bore the name Besa in the British manufacture by the Birmingham Small Arms Company and was produced from 1939 to 1946 (60,000 pieces). After the occupation of Czechoslovakia by Germany weapons were produced in the Zbrojovka Brno for the Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS, albeit under modified designations: the rifle vz. 24 as rifle 24 (t) , the ZB vz. 26 as MG 26 (t) and the ZB vz. 37 as MG 37 (t) , where the "t" stood for "Czech". [4] [19] [20] [16]

In addition, the anti-aircraft gun Br 303 was developed in the factories in Brno, from which about 1944 about 130 pieces were produced. From this, after the war, a new flak was developed, the ZK 454 , the 1956 under the name PLDvK vz. 53/59 (NATO code: M53 / 59 ) was introduced into the army - but produced by the works Zbrojovka Vsetín ."
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Post by Apollo » 13 Oct 2018, 8:13 pm

bladeracer wrote:
It was made at the Brno factory.


Okay, I'm enlightened. Thanks.
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Post by Chappo » 13 Oct 2018, 8:16 pm

Love the timber in your 2e big fella.
I read somewhere once that beech was the standard and walnut was an option with the luxus as was 10 shot mags, and a straight butt.
I think checkering and Schnabel forends were optional too.
Pity they didn't offer the hogsback stock back then, they have a nicer look in my opinion.
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Post by TheDude » 13 Oct 2018, 8:24 pm

My 57 model 2

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Post by Chappo » 13 Oct 2018, 8:29 pm

Found on rimfire central.
Original ad from 1979
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Post by duncan61 » 13 Oct 2018, 8:33 pm

My BRNO is a .243 that I recovered for my mate who has now passed on.photos next week
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Post by bigfellascott » 14 Oct 2018, 8:11 am

Chappo wrote:Love the timber in your 2e big fella.
I read somewhere once that beech was the standard and walnut was an option with the luxus as was 10 shot mags, and a straight butt.
I think checkering and Schnabel forends were optional too.
Pity they didn't offer the hogsback stock back then, they have a nicer look in my opinion.


Thanks Chappo, funny thing was when I bought it new it had this god awful dark brown stain on it which you couldn't see any gain or anything with it on, one day I just decided to sand it off and to my surprise was this beautiful looking grain under it so I then just applied some sort of veggie oil from memory and just kept putting more and more on over the years and it just kept getting better, I've used all sorts of oils on it over the years (oils oil to me I don't get fussy about it all) whatever I have around gets a run :D

Anyway she's a nice little rifle to use out poking bunnies with. :drinks:
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Post by Chappo » 14 Oct 2018, 10:08 am

My 54 mod 1 and 79 mod 2
The mod 1 is used regularly around the house on hares and sunday plinking. It has had a scope but i think i prefer it with the open leaf sights.
The mod 2 is "new" in original box walnut deluxe stock and still full of factory grease with the bolt and mag never fitted.
I had a baby boy earlier in the year and when i saw this mod 2 for sale i perhaps got a little excited about the idea of a hand me down rifle and bought it on an impulse.
With my luck the little bugger will be left handed!!
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Post by bigfellascott » 14 Oct 2018, 11:35 am

Very nice mate, there's something about Brnos isn't there, they just feel right in the hand,
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Post by Chappo » 14 Oct 2018, 12:09 pm

I hear you.
I keep going back to them.
When we were kids dad would send me and my brother up the railway tracks through the town we grew up in with a model 2 to get a feed of rabbit for tea.
Couldnt do that these days.
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Post by bigfellascott » 14 Oct 2018, 2:10 pm

Chappo wrote:I hear you.
I keep going back to them.
When we were kids dad would send me and my brother up the railway tracks through the town we grew up in with a model 2 to get a feed of rabbit for tea.
Couldnt do that these days.


Yep I remember as a kid walking around town with ducks and rabbits and shotgun/rifle hanging off me :D Those days were real not like this poxy controlled peanut world we live in now where ya fart and you could end up with a fine or jail time :thumbsdown:
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Post by Wombat » 14 Oct 2018, 7:57 pm

Chappo wrote:My 54 mod 1 and 79 mod 2
The mod 1 is used regularly around the house on hares and sunday plinking. It has had a scope but i think i prefer it with the open leaf sights.
The mod 2 is "new" in original box walnut deluxe stock and still full of factory grease with the bolt and mag never fitted.
I had a baby boy earlier in the year and when i saw this mod 2 for sale i perhaps got a little excited about the idea of a hand me down rifle and bought it on an impulse.
With my luck the little bugger will be left handed!!

I saw a couple advertised as NIB earlier this year, did you get any story as to why it had never been used? In 1979 they were not anything unusual or rare. :unknown: Maybe a spare bought for a farm and never needed?
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Post by Chappo » 15 Oct 2018, 4:14 pm

Dunno wombat, maybe.
Too many in stock in a gun shop?
Unwanted present?
All i know is that one came from a larger brno collection that was all sold off.

Makes you wonder what might be worth good money as nib in a couple of generations.
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Bruno shotgun, brought second hand.
don't know why 2 bits of timber that are different, but shoots real nice.
Rabbits love it hahaha :sarcasm:
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Post by marksman » 16 Oct 2018, 7:44 am

here's a photo of my 30-06 brno with the first ever fallow skin it ever shot, in the head :lol: as they should be :drinks: very old photo

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