Putting new handles on old knives etc...

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Re: Putting new handles on old knives etc...

Post by bigpete » 21 Feb 2019, 9:18 pm

Dont weld it to the tang,you'll ruin the temper at a critical point. Make the hole for the tang slightly small the tap it on with a hammer and a bit of pipe for a tight friction fit.
Peening on sword pommels was usually done before fitting the handle.
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Re: Putting new handles on old knives etc...

Post by Stix » 22 Feb 2019, 8:12 pm

bigpete wrote:Dont weld it to the tang,you'll ruin the temper at a critical point. Make the hole for the tang slightly small the tap it on with a hammer and a bit of pipe for a tight friction fit.
Peening on sword pommels was usually done before fitting the handle.


Sounds like good advice...cheers Pete...!!

Ill have to search for the right size pipe...being in the building industry i have a lot of pvc & copper pipe that wont stand up to much 'tapping', but not much steel pipe that will be thin enough for this handle...but a farmer i know will have something im sure...

I obviously cant peen on the pommel (i had to google what a 'pommel' was... :lol: ) before the handlle, given blade... :)

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Re: Putting new handles on old knives etc...

Post by Stix » 22 Feb 2019, 8:17 pm

Stix wrote:
bigpete wrote:Dont weld it to the tang,you'll ruin the temper at a critical point. Make the hole for the tang slightly small the tap it on with a hammer and a bit of pipe for a tight friction fit.
Peening on sword pommels was usually done before fitting the handle.


Sounds like good advice...cheers Pete...!!

Ill have to search for the right size pipe...being in the building industry i have a lot of pvc & copper pipe that wont stand up to much 'tapping', but not much steel pipe that will be thin enough for this handle...but a farmer i know will have something im sure...

I obviously cant peen on the pommel (i had to google what a 'pommel' was... :lol: ) before the handlle, given blade... :)

:drinks:


Actually...so we are on the same page...i assume by the 'pommel' you are reffering to the cap at the rear of the handle & not the the front (im assuming the front is the 'bolster plate')
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Re: Putting new handles on old knives etc...

Post by Ecobogan » 22 Feb 2019, 11:42 pm

If Bigpete means not welding the forward bolster plate to the tang then that's right for sure, def don't do that for reasons he mentioned.
Tell me if this is what you meant Bigpete...make the forward bolster plate (not the pommel?) a tight fit on the tang at the biggest most forward point, a few mil back say, and get a piece of pipe that's longer than the handle. With the blade held firmly in the vice with tang pointing upwards slide the bolster plate on till it gets tight and hammer it home using the pipe as a drift. Sound about good?
That's prob how I'd run it then slide or tap the epoxy loaded handle on next.
It'd be hilarious mate if after that long-windedness you replied with a simple Nup.

Anyway Stix, without making this a full house career move still have a crack at peening the butt plate/ pommel on, looks much better and the girls will love it.
Pete's diagram is probably an easier way than folding the tang over but will have to be done with the front end of the blade well supported. Again vertically in the vice.
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Re: Putting new handles on old knives etc...

Post by Stix » 23 Feb 2019, 8:25 am

Ecobogan wrote:If Bigpete means not welding the forward bolster plate to the tang then that's right for sure, def don't do that for reasons he mentioned.
Tell me if this is what you meant Bigpete...make the forward bolster plate (not the pommel?) a tight fit on the tang at the biggest most forward point, a few mil back say, and get a piece of pipe that's longer than the handle. With the blade held firmly in the vice with tang pointing upwards slide the bolster plate on till it gets tight and hammer it home using the pipe as a drift. Sound about good?
That's prob how I'd run it then slide or tap the epoxy loaded handle on next.
It'd be hilarious mate if after that long-windedness you replied with a simple Nup.

Anyway Stix, without making this a full house career move still have a crack at peening the butt plate/ pommel on, looks much better and the girls will love it.
Excellent...!! Ill be stoked with just one girl, but 2 or more...YAY...!! :lol:
Pete's diagram is probably an easier way than folding the tang over but will have to be done with the front end of the blade well supported. Again vertically in the vice.
Yep no worries...
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Im looking forward to giving it a crack...!!

What you're asking/assuming about Pete's post is what i assume too ecobogan...thats why i asked my last question for clarification.

& speaking of questions...is it worth a little dob of epoxy on the inside (wood handle side) of the bolster plate & end cap/pommel...? :unknown:
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Re: Putting new handles on old knives etc...

Post by bigpete » 23 Feb 2019, 8:40 am

Yes that's what I mean
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Re: Putting new handles on old knives etc...

Post by Ecobogan » 23 Feb 2019, 9:51 am

Stix wrote:
Ecobogan wrote:If Bigpete means not welding the forward bolster plate to the tang then that's right for sure, def don't do that for reasons he mentioned.
Tell me if this is what you meant Bigpete...make the forward bolster plate (not the pommel?) a tight fit on the tang at the biggest most forward point, a few mil back say, and get a piece of pipe that's longer than the handle. With the blade held firmly in the vice with tang pointing upwards slide the bolster plate on till it gets tight and hammer it home using the pipe as a drift. Sound about good?
That's prob how I'd run it then slide or tap the epoxy loaded handle on next.
It'd be hilarious mate if after that long-windedness you replied with a simple Nup.

Anyway Stix, without making this a full house career move still have a crack at peening the butt plate/ pommel on, looks much better and the girls will love it.
Excellent...!! Ill be stoked with just one girl, but 2 or more...YAY...!! :lol:
Pete's diagram is probably an easier way than folding the tang over but will have to be done with the front end of the blade well supported. Again vertically in the vice.
Yep no worries...
You'll be a black belt in this caper when she's done


Im looking forward to giving it a crack...!!

What you're asking/assuming about Pete's post is what i assume too ecobogan...thats why i asked my last question for clarification.

& speaking of questions...is it worth a little dob of epoxy on the inside (wood handle side) of the bolster plate & end cap/pommel...? :unknown:
:drinks:



Definitely epoxy inside the handle, bolster plate and pommel. Give the tang a few shallow scores with an angle grinder cut off wheel too, will help key the tang to the handle.
Prob not essential but will help.
And the peen block is the butt plate/pommel as you asked.
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