Considering all the hoops we have to jump through,

[Die Judicii]

Well, as the topic subject says,,
Considering all that we do to obtain and maintain a firearms license, and that it is an official license which is recognized almost nationally,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, (I think all Australian states and territories have reciprocal rights with the exception of the "Wait Awhile" state) that only recognizes its own license.

Why is it that if asked for photo ID a "Firearms Licence" just isn't good enough,, unless it is specifically used in conjunction with firearms.

If general ID is asked for, It won't be accepted.
The "Drivers Licence" bullsh!t gets right up my nose.
I tried to use my firearms licence as ID and ?proof of age, today simply to get into a licensed venue for a meal, and it was refused.

Why,,,,,,,, for f*ck sake ??
It's not only photo ID of who I am, but it also verifies that I am not a criminal.

Considering all the hoops we have to jump through to get one,, Why the hell isn't it good enough to get me into a venue for a simple meal ???

I think the only place (outside of firearm useage) that will accept it as ID is a bank.

It's high time that it should be recognized as a form of ID everywhere that ID is required.
So, let's start flooding the Pollies with written requests for such recognition.

[trekin]

Well, as the topic subject says,,
Considering all that we do to obtain and maintain a firearms license, and that it is an official license which is recognized almost nationally,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, (I think all Australian states and territories have reciprocal rights with the exception of the "Wait Awhile" state) that only recognizes its own license.

Why is it that if asked for photo ID a "Firearms Licence" just isn't good enough,, unless it is specifically used in conjunction with firearms.

If general ID is asked for, It won't be accepted.
The "Drivers Licence" bullsh!t gets right up my nose.
I tried to use my firearms licence as ID and ?proof of age, today simply to get into a licensed venue for a meal, and it was refused.

Why,,,,,,,, for f*ck sake ??
It's not only photo ID of who I am, but it also verifies that I am not a criminal.

Considering all the hoops we have to jump through to get one,, Why the hell isn't it good enough to get me into a venue for a simple meal ???

I think the only place (outside of firearm useage) that will accept it as ID is a bank.

It's high time that it should be recognized as a form of ID everywhere that ID is required.
So, let's start flooding the Pollies with written requests for such recognition.

Then you were giving the bums rush mate, in QLD a Weapons licence is consider a legal form of ID.

[trekin]

Well, as the topic subject says,,
Considering all that we do to obtain and maintain a firearms license, and that it is an official license which is recognized almost nationally,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, (I think all Australian states and territories have reciprocal rights with the exception of the "Wait Awhile" state) that only recognizes its own license.

Why is it that if asked for photo ID a "Firearms Licence" just isn't good enough,, unless it is specifically used in conjunction with firearms.

If general ID is asked for, It won't be accepted.
The "Drivers Licence" bullsh!t gets right up my nose.
I tried to use my firearms licence as ID and ?proof of age, today simply to get into a licensed venue for a meal, and it was refused.

Why,,,,,,,, for f*ck sake ??
It's not only photo ID of who I am, but it also verifies that I am not a criminal.

Considering all the hoops we have to jump through to get one,, Why the hell isn't it good enough to get me into a venue for a simple meal ???

I think the only place (outside of firearm useage) that will accept it as ID is a bank.

It's high time that it should be recognized as a form of ID everywhere that ID is required.
So, let's start flooding the Pollies with written requests for such recognition.

Then you were giving the bums rush mate, in QLD a Weapons licence is consider a legal form of ID.

Mind you, having said that, have just been informed by a manager from AHL, sitting next to me, that a QLD Weapons licence is not accepted as poof of age because minors can get a licence as well.

[on_one_wheel]

Australia Post certainly doesn't accept it.

I was dumbfounded when they said that it doesn't count.

[Die Judicii]

Then you were giving the bums rush mate, in QLD a Weapons licence is consider a legal form of ID.

Yeah Mate, I already knew that,, and that is precisely what I'm getting at,,,,,, For purposes of ID, it should NOT be allowed to be denied or refused.

For instance,,,,,,, I am 65 year old so proof of "being of age to enter a licensed or gaming area" should not even come into it.
But to simply gain access for a sit down meal,,,,,,,, for f*ck sakes,,,,,,,,,, it SHOULD be both recognized, and accepted.

[SomeoneElse]

Australia Post certainly doesn't accept it.

I was dumbfounded when they said that it doesn't count.

I've had Aust Post accept it for parcel collection last year, but in retrospect I'm trusting that they keep such records secure. 'Cos they have to keep a record of your ID details when you collect.

I think that on the official "Points of ID" it counts as about 50 points, whereas drivers licence or passport count as 100 points.

Someone Else

[CAVEMAN]

At the same time do you ever really need to use it for anything other than shooting related activities. Most people in today's modern world have several different forms of ID, and i'm struggling to find a time i would need to use it apart from our chosen recreation

I have spoken to bouncers who have said people have pulled them out to show off, and they just shoot them straight down (pardon my pun) and ask for normal ID as the person is typically being a bit of a poser.

[womble]

yep, posing an an outstansting citizen whose had his whole life heavilly scrutenized and is highly unlikely to get into any kind of trouble.

shame on you.

but seriously, i don't just flip it out there. the more people who know, the more likely you are going to get robbed.

[Gamerancher]

I accidently handed mine over at an RSL club, ( NSW ), where they scan your photo I.D on entry for non-members. Realizing my mistake, I offered my drivers licence instead, bloke on the door said " I'll see if this works", scanned shooters licence, all good, "have a nice evening".
Had a conversation at an airport about I.D. with Borderforce, was showing him various forms of photo I.D that I had in my wallet. Firearms licence raised hie eyebrows but he got real wide eyed when he saw my explosives licence. Despite having to have a lot more scrutiny, ( including an Interpol check ), before you can be issued with one, he advised me that I'd better keep that one hidden. Anything relating to explosives raises the hackles of security at airports.

[bladeracer]

Anything relating to explosives raises the hackles of security at airports.

That's because terrorists have to have explosives licences to be able make bombs, obvious really

[Sergeant Hartman]

Wa hahahaha hahaha

[sungazer]

Certainly a legal form of ID in Victoria even to become a citizen it is accepted.

[AusC]

Yeah Mate, I already knew that,, and that is precisely what I'm getting at,,,,,, For purposes of ID, it should NOT be allowed to be denied or refused.

But to simply gain access for a sit down meal,,,,,,,, for f*ck sakes,,,,,,,,,, it SHOULD be both recognized, and accepted.

Agree with all that mate, and I have no doubt you're right that it is a legal ID in every capacity. It's government issued the same as your drivers license, proof of age card and legally should and "does" work the same.

The problem, of course, is morons who can't thing outside the box, and think a drivers license is the only type of ID.

At the end of the day, what can you do. If a bouncer says your shooters license isn't valid, are you going to punch on over it? Nah. Just gotta deal with the morons unfortunately.