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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by duncan61 » 29 Sep 2019, 2:34 pm

Lost a friend at Wanneroo race track.He was into A7 BSA and he had 3 of them in good working order.He imported a Rocket 3 triple from Ireland that was a full blown track machine.Coming down the hill you mention Blade he went straight on.at about 150-160 mph.The rider behind was at the funeral and he stated that his brake light did not come on and he had possibly passed out.It was a hot summer day.Its known as Barbagello raceway now
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Ecobogan » 29 Sep 2019, 2:35 pm

TassieTiger wrote:I’ll tell everyone who has ridden for many years but taken time away...do it again once to see if “that” feeling returns.
We so, so, so forget. I spent an hour on the bike this morning and immediately wished I’d not taken so long to get back on. I’ll ice my wrist and bathe in the afterglow a while...
Thanks for prompting me E.


Yeah I'll spare us both the pain of how much I didn't get for the SV but realistically it was proving very hard to sell.
So I put an offer in on the YZ, he took it and in organising a time to pick it up we got chatting on the phone about bikes. He happened to race an S1000, I mentioned the SV and he wanted to see some photos. He called back straight up and me buying his YZ turned into him trading it on the SV plus cash. The YZ was babied and came with a good whack of after market bits, one of which was a Rekluse clutch kit....ever tried one?
I fitted one to a 4 speed RMZ 450 a while back also rigged up the left hand rear brake.
That set up isn't for everyone, all situations or all bikes but it sure made the RMZ way more useful as an enduro mount.
Snotty hill climbs, locking the rear turning rh corners and wheelstand control was way different deal and I'll def do it to the YZ.
A 310 would be a faster bike for me but my insecure, perforated macho ego makes me get 450's
I blew the controller a while ago on the elec downhill bike I built (did I tell you about that frigging thing?) So will probably get it sorted next. In tight single and loose rocky tracks it's actually well quicker than my 450.
Weighing 33kg and with quality DH suspension being generally more sophisticated than a dirt bikes, it can be ridden pretty fast....but being so short it's VERY crashable and is hurts people bad. The motor is smaller than a can of baked beans and puts out peak 14kw running through a KX80 gearbox. Good fun be she's got some unrefined chude
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Ecobogan » 29 Sep 2019, 2:38 pm

https://youtu.be/Jh7ys7vUv4o

Here's one of the shakedown runs
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by bladeracer » 29 Sep 2019, 2:57 pm

duncan61 wrote:Lost a friend at Wanneroo race track.He was into A7 BSA and he had 3 of them in good working order.He imported a Rocket 3 triple from Ireland that was a full blown track machine.Coming down the hill you mention Blade he went straight on.at about 150-160 mph.The rider behind was at the funeral and he stated that his brake light did not come on and he had possibly passed out.It was a hot summer day.Its known as Barbagello raceway now


Yes, my understanding is that he most likely had a heart attack coming over the hill, which could have been related to the heat, although I haven't heard of heat being a factor in this incident before.

Sadly, like most circuits, we do lose too many nice guys, that's part of the game unfortunately. After my first comment, I was thinking of those I've known that are gone now, but the list is far too long to dwell on. I could equally make a longer list of people I've know that are gone without being bike related. Death is the final reward for every living thing, I don't blame the bikes, unlike the AMA that tried to ban motorcycles completely back in '87.
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Ecobogan » 29 Sep 2019, 3:00 pm

duncan61 wrote:Lost a friend at Wanneroo race track.He was into A7 BSA and he had 3 of them in good working order.He imported a Rocket 3 triple from Ireland that was a full blown track machine.Coming down the hill you mention Blade he went straight on.at about 150-160 mph.The rider behind was at the funeral and he stated that his brake light did not come on and he had possibly passed out.It was a hot summer day.Its known as Barbagello raceway now


I'm very sorry to hear that mate and it's certainly a part of riding fast bikes that shouldn't be down played. Most everyone I know who's into bikes has lost friends to accidents.
Even though his accident occurred on a track they're still an infinitely safer place for people to get high speed out of their system, for want of a better term.
If the collective state governments were truly concerned and pro active about bike accidents they should partly subsidise track days, make it $80 instead of $300 for a track session, and get some potential danger off the streets and properly trained in the relative safety of a track. It at least open n the discussion, god knows I've written letters about it.
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Ecobogan » 29 Sep 2019, 3:38 pm

Wm.Traynor wrote:OMG, when I read about the experiences you blokes have had :o :o :o
By comparison, my time has been "relatively" carefree. Come to think of it, I have had many more prangs off horses and only broken my thumb :D I don't have any regrets either, remembering only the great fangs I have had and like to think that at one stage I had been to Mt. Glorious more than anyone :D :D Probably wrong about that but who cares.
Now, like some of you, my riding days are over. My bike blew a clutch 4 years ago and while I intended to repair it, stuff like arthritis intervened and weeding the garden has become painful. The thought of putting the bike back together does not fill me with joy and riding would be more painful than ever now.

Thanks for starting this thread, Ecobogan. Hope I haven't wandered off topic too much. When I started reading I couldn't resist :) Biking was my life once and I loved it.


No worries and far from off topic mate! Quite bang on topic and good to hear about your biking days.
Mt Glorious was indeed that, a while ago now for me but sure remember it fondly
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Post by bladeracer » 29 Sep 2019, 3:41 pm

Ecobogan wrote:Joisus daym Blade have you got some stories!
Do you keep a journal of sorts? You've probably led one of the most unboring lives I've heard of and you write well mate, put a book together I reckon.
Also your body damage list makes Barry Sheen look like about as daring as a librarian!

Cheers for the sharing the pics too. Good design, automotive and otherwise, holds up over time through changing trends and the Porsche 911 isn't a bad example in cars.
But Suzuki nailed it in my view with the J, K & L model GSXR750, in particular the L. That red n white model of yours there was a proper head turner and THE bike to have in 1990. Torquier than the K, slick and stable handling, fast and reliable and fantastic looking. There isn't much more a machine has to do and they sold like hot cakes.

From memory in another thread I think we worked out that we all stepped into the big bore world via the J/K/L 750 and my first big bike was the K model.
Bought it crashed in 1993 with 22k on the clock for $3500, complete with bent forks, smashed tank and damaged fairings. Bike was otherwise very tight and I was fully smitten.
The only bad road bike crash I've had was off my '90 model Pepsi RGV 250 where I lost the front end round a bumpy roundabout in Toowoomba and slid 30 odd metres into the gutter wearing board shorts and a singlet. I was 19 y/o and had my leather jacket in my backpack....d!ckhead. I was taken to the hospital sporting several tasty half pancake sized gravel rashes and all I could think about was that the RGV was trashed....but fixable.

The crash adrenaline wore off in the surgery and was not surprisingly traded for some memorable stinging and throbbing pain. Which was nout a pinch on what came directly afterwards in the form of a plastic chair, a cold shower and a very evil nail brush. The doctor 'had' to scrub the edges to about a inch in of my wounds to remove the embedded dirt and crap....I would've rather hy taken a hearty stroll through Auschwitz.
The cops turned up mid scrub with me near cross eyed and twitching and wrote out a fine for riding un shaperoned on my L plates.
Two days later a friend of a friend, who dealt in crashed road bikes, rang to say he'd found me a stacked but tidy GSXR750. I drove to Caloundra that day, turned up to check it out on crutches and needless to say bought it on the spot.
I bought some proper leathers off him and bled anyone I could dry on road bike handling knowledge and was totally hooked.
I'd ridden the RGV a fair bit through Mt Glorious, Toowoomba and the sunshine coast, rode every day prior to the crash and have no excuses for not wearing the right gear.....young d!ckhead.
I got an L model USD front end for the GSXR, a fixable tank, cheap fibreglass fairings, all bits needed to get it ridable. Moved away for work from the sh!thole that was Toowoomba to Tennant creek NT where there were no speed limits.
Put the GSXR together up there in the same year that the NT held the cannon ball run, saw the F40 Ferrari (along with 9 gazillion other mega fast cars) in Tennant two days before it killed 4 people...which of course shut down the race for good.
Everyday for nearly 2 years I had the Suzuki out and the closest call I had on it was with 3 roos coming back from Alice at dusk, it was 1994.
In seemingly sensible efforts to eat up the 500k ride back home I was sitting on about 170 kph when they all thought they'd see what I'd learned about countersteering.
Well, in many German swearwords and f#ck me, I was just at a point where reacting in the correct way was instinctive and gave the right bar a slight but quick push sending the bike hard right. The roos were crossing at speed with the first some several metres in front of the 2nd and 3rd who were side by side. The swerve JUST managed to get me behind the first one and shaving the snouts of the second two, man was it close and I'm certain that had I have reacted any other way there'd still be bits of my carcass up the Stuart highway.

You've got about 1600 of those stories Blade, keep them coming.
Mate, it means a lot to hear I've fired you up a little in getting the bike out of the shed too Tassie...was sure my intention!!
Great stuff fellas


I bought my GSXR750L the day my daughter was born, December 8th, 1989, $9200 on the road, the 40th one built, and very ĺikely the first one on the road in Australia, before any race teams had them. They didn't really need them though, the '89 GSXR750RRK single-seater was the K model with pre-production L model engine and some other bits, the J/K model was getting killed on the track and they desperately needed to homologate something better. There was a bit of a shortage very early on as some dealers were getting the L models and stripping them, as the trick bits (engine, carbs, wheels, oil cooler, forks) were in big demand - Suzuki put a stop to that pretty quickly though.

I was already wanting to race so I test rode many dozens of 250's, virtually every one I could find in Perth, dealers and private. The most fun was the GPZ250R, forerunner to the amazingly successful GPX250R. I especially loved the tiny RG250's, but early on realised I was too big a bloke to be able to race them. I fitted the KR250 much more comfortably and was leaning that way when I got the CB1100F, and discovered my size didn't matter when there was more than 100hp on tap, so Superbikes it was to be.

For my first big bike I drooled desperateĺy over the '85 GSXR750F but it was $5500 and beyond my reach, so I picked up an '81 CB1100F Bol'Dor for $3300 (my dealer's personal bike). I test-rode dozens of big bikes before settling on that one though. First bike I rode over 200kph was an '84 GSX750EFE, and I remember watching the fuel gauge winding down while at full noise :-)

I picked up a very low mileage '88 GSXR750J for $5000 in late '88, but bounced it off a car before it saw the track, so I put the insurance payout (her insurance, I wasn't insured) and sale of the bike (which the buyer streetfightered) straight into pre-ordering the new L model. I did eventually get myself an '85 GSXR750F in '04, picking it up from Melbourne while I was over there doing track days on my '98 GSXR750W at Phillip Island and Mallala.
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Stix » 29 Sep 2019, 6:56 pm

G'day EB...

I must have ESP...just last week i was wondering where you got to & if you'd be back...

I cant contribute to motorbike stories as ive never owned one...although i could tell a tale of being the passenger on the back of a mates Triumph a few years ago & hitting some unexpected undulations in the bitumen at nearly 180km/hr & fair dinkum thinking i was going to die... :lol: .

I could also bore you with the tale of some stupid young invincible primary boys who made their own BMX track, & because one of the stupid boys decided to go the wrong way around the track, two of them made the same evasive move, landing them both face first into not only each other at top speed, but also the trunk of a big gum tree, bruised battered scratched & with limbs intertwined inside each others bike frames...(it really was amazing the state of the tangle--there is no way we could have purposely placed ourselves in that position... :lol:).....but i shant insult your big bike thread with such insubordinate weakling schoolboy talk...


Ecobogan wrote:https://youtu.be/Jh7ys7vUv4o

Here's one of the shakedown runs


Anyway...watching this had me swaying back & forth on the seat & tensing up my legs for turns & braking...i seriously thought you were going to drive me into a tree again with another rider coming the other way... :lol: ...

Sorry for a stupid question..but...what is this--a motorised thingy...???
Cost...? Availability...?...looks cool...!!...i want one...!!
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Post by Ecobogan » 30 Sep 2019, 12:43 am

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Stix wrote:G'day EB...

I must have ESP...just last week i was wondering where you got to & if you'd be back...

I cant contribute to motorbike stories as ive never owned one...although i could tell a tale of being the passenger on the back of a mates Triumph a few years ago & hitting some unexpected undulations in the bitumen at nearly 180km/hr & fair dinkum thinking i was going to die... :lol: .

I could also bore you with the tale of some stupid young invincible primary boys who made their own BMX track, & because one of the stupid boys decided to go the wrong way around the track, two of them made the same evasive move, landing them both face first into not only each other at top speed, but also the trunk of a big gum tree, bruised battered scratched & with limbs intertwined inside each others bike frames...(it really was amazing the state of the tangle--there is no way we could have purposely placed ourselves in that position... :lol:).....but i shant insult your big bike thread with such insubordinate weakling schoolboy talk...


Ecobogan wrote:https://youtu.be/Jh7ys7vUv4o

Here's one of the shakedown runs


Anyway...watching this had me swaying back & forth on the seat & tensing up my legs for turns & braking...i seriously thought you were going to drive me into a tree again with another rider coming the other way... :lol: ...

Sorry for a stupid question..but...what is this--a motorised thingy...???
Cost...? Availability...?...looks cool...!!...i want one...!!



Hey Stix!!
Yeah good to be back for sure and mate you make me laugh. Nowhere near bored by the BMX recounts....those unco, pre macho,like-off-the-cartoons gutsa's the old BMX's used to dish out was the prequel to all these stories here.
I can sure picture it. Usually the first time your balls got smashed by a bit of steel, first time airborne on 2 wheels, first high speed stack, wheelies and bad cracks at impressing chicks. The trusty nasty BMX was usually behind it.
My cousin Dominic had freestyle pegs on his axles front and back. He swore black n blue they were on tight and sturdy as and if I didn't sit on the bars and go ripping down our street with him riding then I was a pedigree punce.
So off we went and this bad idea got properly worse. At 'too fast to pedal speeds' he had the bright idea of getting some air over a driveway gutter jump. We nosedived wildly, hit the ground front wheel first, the front axle pegs that I was standing on both disappeared and I face and bodily planted the gravel footpath to be then run hard up the clacker by the bike!
Big stack and I was skun at a royal level. Dominic's mum, my Aunt, acted responsibly and abused both of us to the core then tipped iodine all over my carnage whilst holding me down. The '80's were good for things like that.

That electric downhill bike was an idea I had a few years ago. To make a fastish off roader that could be ridden places where an MX bike would have you shot.
There are variations of that concept on the market but they're not cheap ($5k+) as elec power is still kind of exotic, I'll dig up some links. That one cost me $3500 in parts and is far from properly sorted but well worth the effort.

There might be some ESP getting around mate coz late last week myself I had a recall chuckle about your 'anyone seen this handyman thread?' comment on Tassie's shipping container, very funny stuff.
What have you been up to of late? All well in SA land?
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Bill » 30 Sep 2019, 9:08 am

yeah another 2 wheel tragic, thou these days Ive been trying to channel my inner GP rider...

350 barrels, RGV bits, yammy bits, a smokey mongrel that pull 3rd gear up with a good tug LOL

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Post by MontyShooter » 30 Sep 2019, 12:19 pm

I love getting out after the sambar on the big GSA.

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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by bladeracer » 01 Oct 2019, 4:19 pm

Wm.Traynor wrote:OMG, when I read about the experiences you blokes have had :o :o :o
By comparison, my time has been "relatively" carefree. Come to think of it, I have had many more prangs off horses and only broken my thumb :D I don't have any regrets either, remembering only the great fangs I have had and like to think that at one stage I had been to Mt. Glorious more than anyone :D :D Probably wrong about that but who cares.
Now, like some of you, my riding days are over. My bike blew a clutch 4 years ago and while I intended to repair it, stuff like arthritis intervened and weeding the garden has become painful. The thought of putting the bike back together does not fill me with joy and riding would be more painful than ever now.

Thanks for starting this thread, Ecobogan. Hope I haven't wandered off topic too much. When I started reading I couldn't resist :) Biking was my life once and I loved it.


I would like to ride horses, and tried it once in my forties, scared me senseless, without even moving :-)
I found it to be diametrically opposite motorcycle riding. On a bike, every millimeter of movement, every degree of motion, is immediate, and governed strictly by my own inputs. Animals decide where you are going and how you are going to get there :-)

Combined with my vertigo, I was just terrified of being up on the enormous beast. The eleven-year-old girl who generously allowed me to ride her horse was not very impressed with my efforts!
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Post by Wm.Traynor » 01 Oct 2019, 7:59 pm

Horses
You tried blade and found you weren't quite up to it. That is sometimes the only way to find out about something you admire and wish you could do. It looks so thrilling and exciting, doesn't it :D but I found out that you/i had to be born in the saddle.
Bikes
I knew a bloke who could exit a ute backwards, land on the rear wheel, spin round and ride away. Reckon he musta bin born to it, too :wtf: :o :thumbsup:
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Ecobogan » 01 Oct 2019, 8:02 pm

bladeracer wrote:
Ecobogan wrote:Joisus daym Blade have you got some stories!
Do you keep a journal of sorts? You've probably led one of the most unboring lives I've heard of and you write well mate, put a book together I reckon.
Also your body damage list makes Barry Sheen look like about as daring as a librarian!

Cheers for the sharing the pics too. Good design, automotive and otherwise, holds up over time through changing trends and the Porsche 911 isn't a bad example in cars.
But Suzuki nailed it in my view with the J, K & L model GSXR750, in particular the L. That red n white model of yours there was a proper head turner and THE bike to have in 1990. Torquier than the K, slick and stable handling, fast and reliable and fantastic looking. There isn't much more a machine has to do and they sold like hot cakes.

From memory in another thread I think we worked out that we all stepped into the big bore world via the J/K/L 750 and my first big bike was the K model.
Bought it crashed in 1993 with 22k on the clock for $3500, complete with bent forks, smashed tank and damaged fairings. Bike was otherwise very tight and I was fully smitten.
The only bad road bike crash I've had was off my '90 model Pepsi RGV 250 where I lost the front end round a bumpy roundabout in Toowoomba and slid 30 odd metres into the gutter wearing board shorts and a singlet. I was 19 y/o and had my leather jacket in my backpack....d!ckhead. I was taken to the hospital sporting several tasty half pancake sized gravel rashes and all I could think about was that the RGV was trashed....but fixable.

The crash adrenaline wore off in the surgery and was not surprisingly traded for some memorable stinging and throbbing pain. Which was nout a pinch on what came directly afterwards in the form of a plastic chair, a cold shower and a very evil nail brush. The doctor 'had' to scrub the edges to about a inch in of my wounds to remove the embedded dirt and crap....I would've rather hy taken a hearty stroll through Auschwitz.
The cops turned up mid scrub with me near cross eyed and twitching and wrote out a fine for riding un shaperoned on my L plates.
Two days later a friend of a friend, who dealt in crashed road bikes, rang to say he'd found me a stacked but tidy GSXR750. I drove to Caloundra that day, turned up to check it out on crutches and needless to say bought it on the spot.
I bought some proper leathers off him and bled anyone I could dry on road bike handling knowledge and was totally hooked.
I'd ridden the RGV a fair bit through Mt Glorious, Toowoomba and the sunshine coast, rode every day prior to the crash and have no excuses for not wearing the right gear.....young d!ckhead.
I got an L model USD front end for the GSXR, a fixable tank, cheap fibreglass fairings, all bits needed to get it ridable. Moved away for work from the sh!thole that was Toowoomba to Tennant creek NT where there were no speed limits.
Put the GSXR together up there in the same year that the NT held the cannon ball run, saw the F40 Ferrari (along with 9 gazillion other mega fast cars) in Tennant two days before it killed 4 people...which of course shut down the race for good.
Everyday for nearly 2 years I had the Suzuki out and the closest call I had on it was with 3 roos coming back from Alice at dusk, it was 1994.
In seemingly sensible efforts to eat up the 500k ride back home I was sitting on about 170 kph when they all thought they'd see what I'd learned about countersteering.
Well, in many German swearwords and f#ck me, I was just at a point where reacting in the correct way was instinctive and gave the right bar a slight but quick push sending the bike hard right. The roos were crossing at speed with the first some several metres in front of the 2nd and 3rd who were side by side. The swerve JUST managed to get me behind the first one and shaving the snouts of the second two, man was it close and I'm certain that had I have reacted any other way there'd still be bits of my carcass up the Stuart highway.

You've got about 1600 of those stories Blade, keep them coming.
Mate, it means a lot to hear I've fired you up a little in getting the bike out of the shed too Tassie...was sure my intention!!
Great stuff fellas


I bought my GSXR750L the day my daughter was born, December 8th, 1989, $9200 on the road, the 40th one built, and very ĺikely the first one on the road in Australia, before any race teams had them. They didn't really need them though, the '89 GSXR750RRK single-seater was the K model with pre-production L model engine and some other bits, the J/K model was getting killed on the track and they desperately needed to homologate something better. There was a bit of a shortage very early on as some dealers were getting the L models and stripping them, as the trick bits (engine, carbs, wheels, oil cooler, forks) were in big demand - Suzuki put a stop to that pretty quickly though.

I was already wanting to race so I test rode many dozens of 250's, virtually every one I could find in Perth, dealers and private. The most fun was the GPZ250R, forerunner to the amazingly successful GPX250R. I especially loved the tiny RG250's, but early on realised I was too big a bloke to be able to race them. I fitted the KR250 much more comfortably and was leaning that way when I got the CB1100F, and discovered my size didn't matter when there was more than 100hp on tap, so Superbikes it was to be.

For my first big bike I drooled desperateĺy over the '85 GSXR750F but it was $5500 and beyond my reach, so I picked up an '81 CB1100F Bol'Dor for $3300 (my dealer's personal bike). I test-rode dozens of big bikes before settling on that one though. First bike I rode over 200kph was an '84 GSX750EFE, and I remember watching the fuel gauge winding down while at full noise :-)

I picked up a very low mileage '88 GSXR750J for $5000 in late '88, but bounced it off a car before it saw the track, so I put the insurance payout (her insurance, I wasn't insured) and sale of the bike (which the buyer streetfightered) straight into pre-ordering the new L model. I did eventually get myself an '85 GSXR750F in '04, picking it up from Melbourne while I was over there doing track days on my '98 GSXR750W at Phillip Island and Mallala.


Sounds like you were up to what exactly what I would've loved to have been but I was a few years too young at the time.
The RR Gixxer was certainly a pretty sexy machine sporting 20kg less an aluminium tank amongst other things if I remember correctly. The fibreglass fairings I got for my crashed K model were RR copies.
I traded the K 750 on a KTM 550 2 stroke ex finke racer in Alice springs which had the rear hub machined down to take a 30 odd tooth sprocket and was geared for 180+kph! Pretty wild on what was basically an MX bike....was sold to me as basically a stock geared standard bike with some hellishing stories.

Left the road bikes alone pretty much til 2008 when I was living in the Netherlands. This fruity Dutch blacksmith I was working for had a pretty mint '95 FZR1000 and always wanted to know how fast it'd go as old school beamers were more his thing.

We were on our way to a bike meeting in Germany when every chance to top gear redline this thing presented itself on the autobahn.
It was one of my bikings most memorable moments because it was the only time I can really remember having my ass well and truly kicked by a car.
So, full throttle through all gears, big wide straight run of freeway, both needles stretched to the far right of the clocks and Speedo seeing about 275, no real skill needed.
Rolled the throttle off after a few seconds at full noise and changed into the next slower lane when this car appeared right next to me.
I'm not sure if you guys know what a Bugatti Veyron is but I sure did, and it gave me quite a start to be reeled in so quickly at that speed....which of course is nothing to a rig like that. A very nasty looking machine to say the least and the only time I'd ever seen one in the flesh and quite happy to be it's laughing stock.
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Post by Ecobogan » 01 Oct 2019, 8:26 pm

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Thought you might be interested in this Tassie.... it's on the one day list but will cop a 450ftlbs 300hp elec driveline....have almost all the bits just need to build a battery
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Ecobogan » 01 Oct 2019, 8:38 pm

Wm.Traynor wrote:Horses
You tried blade and found you weren't quite up to it. That is sometimes the only way to find out about something you admire and wish you could do. It looks so thrilling and exciting, doesn't it :D but I found out that you/i had to be born in the saddle.
Bikes
I knew a bloke who could exit a ute backwards, land on the rear wheel, spin round and ride away. Reckon he musta bin born to it, too :wtf: :o :thumbsup:


Ha! Right on, sounds like 2 wheeled gymnastics.
My parents were both much more into horses than bikes, they had bikes on the farm but we're never really for fun.
We used to go mustering on horses a bit when I was young but always got bashed never really got the hang of it.
I remember in the late '80's the dirt bikers very publicly challenged some crew who I think were on quarter horses to a barrel race. The bikers were A grade MX pros and the horses riders were also at the top of their field. Needless to say the bikes got absolutely flogged stupid every time...like took twice as long to do the course
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by TassieTiger » 01 Oct 2019, 8:59 pm

EB. You have a lot to answer for...and my wife wants words.
In the space of a week, I’ve taken out the ktm for the first time in x months, I’ve stripped the Gixxer down for a service and booked a Baskerville day and I literally just bought a 200cc diet kart after seeing your bloody electric set up. The 200cc engine can piss right off - I might dose it with n20 and see how much she can take captain...
It’s this..
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200CC-6-5HP ... SwgW9ciDxS

Deadest - I’m sure is Taswegians suffer from winter depression due to low levels of light. You’ve fired me up man!

If your not opposed to throwing some advice, I might lean on you for some info on elec conversion...for the kids...of course :-)
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Ecobogan » 02 Oct 2019, 6:46 pm

Bill wrote:yeah another 2 wheel tragic, thou these days Ive been trying to channel my inner GP rider...

350 barrels, RGV bits, yammy bits, a smokey mongrel that pull 3rd gear up with a good tug LOL

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Very cool bike there Bill, did you street fighter it yourself? It'd be tight traffic magic I'd reckon. She an '84-'86 model?
Are the RGV bits the wheels n forks? Just guessin'
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Bill » 02 Oct 2019, 7:29 pm

Ecobogan no I didnt put it together, 2 previous owner blew a load of cash, I swapped a KLX250 for it after it was advertised unfinished and unregistered with a poorly fitted 2 piece banshee crankcase seal. Was fouling the right plug after only running for a min. I knew what the problem was straight away as Id been there 25 years earlier.

I had the crank case pulled off and an oem seal put in, new gear selector and crank bearings as there was a little play in the big ones. 350 barrels mated to an 83 RZ250 bottom end, pistons and power valves had been done by previous owner so top end didnt need touching.

RGV front end with a 5mm spacer and roller bearings, RGV swingarm, RGV tank, 916 seat/tail, oversize radiator, R1 dash.

not perfect but starts first kick, sticky rubber and ferodo pads, gets ridden a 5 or 6 times a month.

Will look at getting the frame and wheels powder coated next year and a new paint scheme.
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Ecobogan » 02 Oct 2019, 9:02 pm

TassieTiger wrote:EB. You have a lot to answer for...and my wife wants words.
In the space of a week, I’ve taken out the ktm for the first time in x months, I’ve stripped the Gixxer down for a service and booked a Baskerville day and I literally just bought a 200cc diet kart after seeing your bloody electric set up. The 200cc engine can piss right off - I might dose it with n20 and see how much she can take captain...
It’s this..
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200CC-6-5HP ... SwgW9ciDxS

Deadest - I’m sure is Taswegians suffer from winter depression due to low levels of light. You’ve fired me up man!

If your not opposed to throwing some advice, I might lean on you for some info on elec conversion...for the kids...of course :-)


Hahaha! I'm glad mate and did get a hearty laugh from reading that this morning. Sure don't want to cause trouble in the domestic arena and am happy to cop a verbal smack in the chops for firing you up! Though I'm sure she'll give you full backing.

Be very happy to help with any experience I have with your build of course. That kart, even with a 20kw motor, will fry...the tyres that is.
Elec powering vehicles is a funny animal with massive pros and massive cons.

Crappy - heavyish, expensive, poor range and slow recharge times
This is usually enough to put people off

Awesome - near noiseless, cost to run is negligible, virtually maintenance free ,eyewatering acceleration is the norm

I've talked myself into building the buggy on a 50% no noise gain and the other 50% in that the $10k battery and $3k motor will only just get me a noisy unreliable 300hp turbo busa motor anyway

The Datsun also came with a zilla 2000amp controller, it currently has a 1000a unit currently that I'll sell. The warp9 motor that's still in the car can take, according to some, 150v @2000amps that being 300kw for a few seconds. I'd be happy with 225kw as the motor will stay cooler longer.
Many tell me these figures aren't possible while equally as many tell me they've done it themselves.... very little of this happens in Australia unfortunately.
I'm just going to build the driveline and find out for myself, I've heard the naysaying oft before and like to find out the hard way.
Even 180kw and 250ftlbs would be pretty fun in a 450kg machine with 18" front and 15" rear travel, excuse my mixing of imp and metric there.

Do it man, I reckon you'll be pleasantly surprised....after you Nos overdose the old girl first!
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Ecobogan » 02 Oct 2019, 9:05 pm

https://youtu.be/vdKDOfXBRMM

The guy doing the commentary should be tortured with a soldering iron but the bike is worth it
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by TassieTiger » 03 Oct 2019, 10:23 am

That’s Awesome!!!!
I need to get some ducks in order...leave form has been put in...
Enthusiastic comments from cam dude lol.
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Stix » 05 Oct 2019, 11:53 am

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Stix wrote:G'day EB...

I must have ESP...just last week i was wondering where you got to & if you'd be back...

I cant contribute to motorbike stories as ive never owned one...although i could tell a tale of being the passenger on the back of a mates Triumph a few years ago & hitting some unexpected undulations in the bitumen at nearly 180km/hr & fair dinkum thinking i was going to die... :lol: .

I could also bore you with the tale of some stupid young invincible primary boys who made their own BMX track, & because one of the stupid boys decided to go the wrong way around the track, two of them made the same evasive move, landing them both face first into not only each other at top speed, but also the trunk of a big gum tree, bruised battered scratched & with limbs intertwined inside each others bike frames...(it really was amazing the state of the tangle--there is no way we could have purposely placed ourselves in that position... :lol:).....but i shant insult your big bike thread with such insubordinate weakling schoolboy talk...


Ecobogan wrote:https://youtu.be/Jh7ys7vUv4o

Here's one of the shakedown runs


Anyway...watching this had me swaying back & forth on the seat & tensing up my legs for turns & braking...i seriously thought you were going to drive me into a tree again with another rider coming the other way... :lol: ...

Sorry for a stupid question..but...what is this--a motorised thingy...???
Cost...? Availability...?...looks cool...!!...i want one...!!



Hey Stix!!
Yeah good to be back for sure and mate you make me laugh. Nowhere near bored by the BMX recounts....those unco, pre macho,like-off-the-cartoons gutsa's the old BMX's used to dish out was the prequel to all these stories here.
I can sure picture it. Usually the first time your balls got smashed by a bit of steel, first time airborne on 2 wheels, first high speed stack, wheelies and bad cracks at impressing chicks. The trusty nasty BMX was usually behind it.
My cousin Dominic had freestyle pegs on his axles front and back. He swore black n blue they were on tight and sturdy as and if I didn't sit on the bars and go ripping down our street with him riding then I was a pedigree punce.
So off we went and this bad idea got properly worse. At 'too fast to pedal speeds' he had the bright idea of getting some air over a driveway gutter jump. We nosedived wildly, hit the ground front wheel first, the front axle pegs that I was standing on both disappeared and I face and bodily planted the gravel footpath to be then run hard up the clacker by the bike!
Big stack and I was skun at a royal level. Dominic's mum, my Aunt, acted responsibly and abused both of us to the core then tipped iodine all over my carnage whilst holding me down. The '80's were good for things like that.

That electric downhill bike was an idea I had a few years ago. To make a fastish off roader that could be ridden places where an MX bike would have you shot.
There are variations of that concept on the market but they're not cheap ($5k+) as elec power is still kind of exotic, I'll dig up some links. That one cost me $3500 in parts and is far from properly sorted but well worth the effort.

There might be some ESP getting around mate coz late last week myself I had a recall chuckle about your 'anyone seen this handyman thread?' comment on Tassie's shipping container, very funny stuff.
What have you been up to of late? All well in SA land?


Sorry for late reply...yep...evrything (sort of) good here...not enough time to balance wants & needs though...here it is a long weekend & im not out shooting ffs--"oh the humanity"...!!... :evil: :x :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Id very much love a bike like that (your electric jobby)--kit it out with some basic storage, rack & lighting & get around farms (relatively) quietly....but i cant afford that kind of coin unfortunately.

If you learn of any vast improvements in both technology & coin outlay, id be keen to hear about it though...!!

Cheers... :drinks:
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Post by Stix » 05 Oct 2019, 10:25 pm

Thats not a road bike...

THIS is a road bike...

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Post by Ecobogan » 06 Oct 2019, 7:12 pm

Now that's a very natural progression from the BMX there Stix!
Hope things are quickly heading to the better than sort of for ya too mate...the old wants/needs chestnut's a bastard to juggle at times. I'm sure you make 50 people belly laugh a day though and that sure counts for something.
The elec mountain bikes can be done in a more basic and cost friendly way than my one.
I'll still find those links for you but at the moment am sporting a savage award winning hangover and am running on instinct like an aphid....maxed out on basic functions and sending links would would fry my system.
I'll come good by the end of the year easy
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Ecobogan » 17 Oct 2019, 12:09 pm

Finally got to posting this link. It has pretty much all things elec powered, fast or not.
Stix, my advice would be to run a hub motor in a reasonable quality cross country bike, pretty straight forward and all help needed can be had here. My build thread for the one you saw is under 'downhill project motorcycle transmission' if you wanna squizz.
The buggy thread is under '300hp single seat off road buggy project' Tassie if you wanna see me get a tune up for being over ambitious

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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Blr243 » 17 Oct 2019, 1:38 pm

My bike is not running at the moment due to electrical damage sustained while a thief attempted to steal it. So it just sits there sad. A couple of weeks ago there was sirens , police ambo, fire brigade , a big crowd and bits all over the intersection. all that just down the corner. Every arvo I go through that intersection as I take my mongrel dog to the dog park a pranged up black motorcycle sits on the nature strip with POLICE AWARE tape across it. So someone is probably sitting in hospital while his bones mend and not really in a position to collect his machine for the moment. That’s enough for me I think. I will just sell mine as is .....bitumen is much coarser than sandpaper. stay safe on the roads fellow hunters
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Ecobogan » 17 Oct 2019, 2:32 pm

Blr243 wrote:My bike is not running at the moment due to electrical damage sustained while a thief attempted to steal it. So it just sits there sad. A couple of weeks ago there was sirens , police ambo, fire brigade , a big crowd and bits all over the intersection. all that just down the corner. Every arvo I go through that intersection as I take my mongrel dog to the dog park a pranged up black motorcycle sits on the nature strip with POLICE AWARE tape across it. So someone is probably sitting in hospital while his bones mend and not really in a position to collect his machine for the moment. That’s enough for me I think. I will just sell mine as is .....bitumen is much coarser than sandpaper. stay safe on the roads fellow hunters


Yep fair enough mate, road crashes are memorable in the nastiest way. Sit on it for a while if you can afford to...a 'dirt only' life might present itself.
I've sure seen some brutal street crashes, it ain't funny. Take care mate
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Post by Wm.Traynor » 17 Oct 2019, 7:26 pm

Speaking of the end of riding Blr243, my basket case did not sell so I am giving it to the wife's son.

Confession
Maybe he will let me ride it a bit, one day :twisted:
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Re: The motorbike and general ratbag machines chat

Post by Stix » 17 Oct 2019, 7:36 pm

Wm.Traynor wrote:Speaking of the end of riding Blr243, my basket case did not sell so I am giving it to the wife's son.

Confession
Maybe he will let me ride it a bit, one day :twisted:


8-)

Hehehe...

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