Man dies after being shot by Sydney police

[DownunderDutchman]

Well done boys/girls in blue! https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-ac ... 9b77065fe2

[xDom]

Seems to be a lot of these Tattooed, Bodybuilding, Instagram types around these days. Posting pictures of themselves with hot women and expensive toys, as though any one gives a $hit.
Wonder what set this meathead off? Had to be more than his missus being pregnant?

[DownunderDutchman]

Seems to be a lot of these Tattooed, Bodybuilding, Instagram types around these days. Posting pictures of themselves with hot women and expensive toys, as though any one gives a $hit.
Wonder what set this meathead off? Had to be more than his missus being pregnant?

Looking at his photo, roids shrunk his nuts and lowered his IQ and reasoning was screwed up, made the wrong choice and now lays in the morgue. I used to body built for 10 years, all natural, but have seen many of this character in gyms high on roids, and it messes not just with their small testies

[sungazer]

But for once the police actually shot someone in the Leg supposedly on purpose wanting not to kill him. That is a landmark event. It certainly would be if in Victoria there have been much less threatening situations where police have shot the victim center of mass right in the chest heart.

I think the police should be commended in this case.

[DownunderDutchman]

But for once the police actually shot someone in the Leg supposedly on purpose wanting not to kill him. That is a landmark event. It certainly would be if in Victoria there have been much less threatening situations where police have shot the victim center of mass right in the chest heart.

I think the police should be commended in this case.

Ditto.

[xDom]

Don’t know the laws on Pump Actions, pretty sure they’re not easily legally obtained, so every chance this was an illegal firearm.
No don’t we’ll be hearing from “The Project “ about this.

[zhuk]

But for once the police actually shot someone in the Leg supposedly on purpose wanting not to kill him. That is a landmark event. It certainly would be if in Victoria there have been much less threatening situations where police have shot the victim center of mass right in the chest heart.

I think the police should be commended in this case.

All law enforcement are only trained to shoot centre mass. The massive adrenalin dump in that situation would have caused them to jerk the muzzle down, plus NSWPOL use my club for training and holes in baffles/gouges in the ground attest to the fact that sadly their training isn't optimal in any case. And the Govt isn't prepared to make the necessary financial investment to improve it.

[sungazer]

@zhuk that may well be the truth but for 50 years I have been in front of the TV looking at some of the poor people some disabled some mentally disabled shouting at the TV why didnt you just shoot the poor bugger in the leg.

[Stoney]

Don’t know the laws on Pump Actions, pretty sure they’re not easily legally obtained, so every chance this was an illegal firearm.
No don’t we’ll be hearing from “The Project “ about this.

“The Socialist Project “ will be working overtime tonight on a story mark my words.

[bigfellascott]

Oh what a shame, he would have been a fine upstanding citizen for sure.

[zhuk]

@zhuk that may well be the truth but for 50 years I have been in front of the TV looking at some of the poor people some disabled some mentally disabled shouting at the TV why didnt you just shoot the poor bugger in the leg.

Of course I think we've all felt that. But that's not how the training has to be...taking into account the fact that aiming at such a small target area under such adrenal-fuelled conditions would be impossible when you must react as fast as you can to defend your life or that of others, it's just not feasible.

[tom604]

center of mass and empty the clip,,dumb and dead,,so sad, too bad,,,just my take on it

[Stix]

But for once the police actually shot someone in the Leg supposedly on purpose wanting not to kill him. That is a landmark event. It certainly would be if in Victoria there have been much less threatening situations where police have shot the victim center of mass right in the chest heart.

I think the police should be commended in this case.

All law enforcement are only trained to shoot centre mass. The massive adrenalin dump in that situation would have caused them to jerk the muzzle down, plus NSWPOL use my club for training and holes in baffles/gouges in the ground attest to the fact that sadly their training isn't optimal in any case. And the Govt isn't prepared to make the necessary financial investment to improve it.

@zhuk that may well be the truth but for 50 years I have been in front of the TV looking at some of the poor people some disabled some mentally disabled shouting at the TV why didnt you just shoot the poor bugger in the leg.

Of course I think we've all felt that. But that's not how the training has to be...taking into account the fact that aiming at such a small target area under such adrenal-fuelled conditions would be impossible when you must react as fast as you can to defend your life or that of others, it's just not feasible.

Im not trying to be arguementative...
But i think these are some pretty big calls zhuk...
You're just assuming every single human being, with or without training, completely lack the ability to focus their mind in such high intensity situations...
If this was the case, the elite 'soldiers' throughout the military & law enforcent agencies would simply not exist...not to mention people not trained in fighting sucessfully defending themselves...or the "everyday" citizens who are able to focus themselves & help the momentarily neurotic in such fight or flight/life & death situations as 911 & other tragedies, wouldnt be feeling the level of post trauma they feel.

Every range has bullet impacts where they shouldnt have...resulting from everything from accidental discharges, people just not understanding the realities, dangers & laws based around ricochet's, & also from complete fukheads...
As much as i know there are many coppers out there who should be committed, to label all of them as being equally incompetant in that situation is just as naive as labelling every hunter incapable of an instant humane kills in fast paced adrenalin fuelled hunting or culling ...

Again im not trying to be argumentative, & i do feel feel your sentiment...

[Kelsey Cooter]

center of mass and empty the clip,,dumb and dead,,so sad, too bad,,,just my take on it

Yep as if anyone is going to be able to think fast enough to do anything more. Makes me mad how they spend weeks scrutinizing what an officer had to do in the heat of the moment

[bigfellascott]

center of mass and empty the clip,,dumb and dead,,so sad, too bad,,,just my take on it

Yep as if anyone is going to be able to think fast enough to do anything more. Makes me mad how they spend weeks scrutinizing what an officer had to do in the heat of the moment

Too right Kelsey, what exactly could they have done differently, some twat with a shotgun starts shooting at ya you do what you've been trained to do and that's shoot at the biggest part of the body until the threat is neutralised, it's that simple really, it's you or him in the end in situations like that and more than likely death will come to one or the other.

[K2bonsai]

As a former NSW cop myself I will weigh in on some of the comments....

- Whilst completing the final 3 month training in Goulburn you do plenty of range time however once out in the job itself the only time you get to actively fire your weapon is the mandatory compliance shoot once per year. Front line police themselves know this is not acceptable and has been brought up time and time again but it always fell on deaf ears, most likely due to the costs involved.
- Police are every day people just like you and some handle pressure better than others and some can shoot better than others. The general public believe that handguns are these super accurate weapons that can be fired at long range and hit any small part of the body the shooter wishes - the reality is that unless you spend many many hours consistantly at the range, handguns even at 20m under external pressures make targets seem extremely small and hard to hit.
- Police are trained that when they draw their weapon to shoot it to prevent immediate threat of loss of life to themselves or others and as such you shoot centre of mass and to stop the threat.

The Panel just does my head in like many here!!

[bigfellascott]

Spot on Bonsai, this bloke clearly wanted to die so he got his wish in the end, the police did their job admirably and really they should be viewed as heroic and courageous cos that's what they really are at the end of the day, it wouldn't be easy putting yourself in a potential life-ending situation, it takes guts so well done to em for having the guts to get the job done.

[K2bonsai]

Yeah the whole thing looked to me as suicide by police...

[sungazer]

Yeah I just saw it on the news more than just two cops by themselves. In front of a police station he was shot by multiple people even once he was on the ground and probably dead they were still shooting.

Always interesting how you can have one vision in your head based on a piece of information only to find out more of the story and your picture changes big time.

[bigfellascott]

Yeah I just saw it on the news more than just two cops by themselves. In front of a police station he was shot by multiple people even once he was on the ground and probably dead they were still shooting.

Always interesting how you can have one vision in your head based on a piece of information only to find out more of the story and your picture changes big time.

He was on the ground shot and he was still shooting at em mate, hence why they kept shooting until the danger was neutralised.

[tom604]

sometimes idiots take a long time to die,,one copper with pellet wounds,not much of a stretch to dead copper ,,they did a good thing,,had a preggie girlfriend ,,shot up her house with her and her kids inside,