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Post by bladeracer » 13 Nov 2019, 8:54 pm

So, with all the rain we've been having we haven't had to pump water for a week. But we forgot the pump was still at the dam...and was under two-feet of water!
We dragged it out yesterday but I haven't decided how to approach it just yet.
I'm thinking I'll drain the crankcase, put in a litre of diesel and slosh it all around to try to clean it out. Pull the plug and spray WD40 into the cylinder to break up any water in the ring grooves, then drain the diesel overnight, fill it up with fresh oil, run it for maybe ten minutes to clean out all the galleries, then drain and refill it with fresh oil.

Anybody had to deal with something similar, I'm sure it happens a lot :-)
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Post by Die Judicii » 13 Nov 2019, 8:59 pm

bladeracer wrote:So, with all the rain we've been having we haven't had to pump water for a week.

Anybody had to deal with something similar, I'm sure it happens a lot :-)


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Post by pomemax » 13 Nov 2019, 10:39 pm

Crank the motor with plug out to move the valves around
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Post by bladeracer » 13 Nov 2019, 10:46 pm

pomemax wrote:Crank the motor with plug out to move the valves around


I want to get the water out of the bottom end before I start turning the engine over, so I haven't pulled it to see if the cylinder is full of water.
And I don't want to let air in until I'm ready to fix it. I have to do the water pump and timing belt on the Landcruiser before I can tackle the pump.
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Post by duncan61 » 13 Nov 2019, 10:53 pm

If it is a little side valve pump set they are not hard to pull down clean and reassemble
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Post by bladeracer » 13 Nov 2019, 11:14 pm

duncan61 wrote:If it is a little side valve pump set they are not hard to pull down clean and reassemble


True, but I'd prefer not to have to if I can avoid it :-)
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Post by duncan61 » 13 Nov 2019, 11:20 pm

The flushing with diesel will work
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Post by scoot » 14 Nov 2019, 9:01 am

I would suggest sooner rather than later is best. Less time for stuff to start corroding.
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Post by Noisydad » 14 Nov 2019, 9:42 am

You’ll have to dismantle the electrics for inspection and to dry them out.
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Post by RoginaJack » 14 Nov 2019, 11:03 am

:lol: :lol: up here it's more likely to be under 3ft of dust, leaves and ash. Shouldn't worried about pulling it out (the pump that is) just bottled the water and sent it up here... :clap:
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Post by GQshayne » 14 Nov 2019, 9:34 pm

Oil and water make a nice sludge in my experience. I would be removing the valve cover to clean the top end as well.

What motor do you have? GX Honda etc.
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Post by bladeracer » 14 Nov 2019, 9:44 pm

GQshayne wrote:Oil and water make a nice sludge in my experience. I would be removing the valve cover to clean the top end as well.

What motor do you have? GX Honda etc.


Yep, I'll be doing that. It's a Honda engine.
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Post by Die Judicii » 15 Nov 2019, 3:34 pm

Noisydad wrote:You’ll have to dismantle the electrics for inspection and to dry them out.


Get a can or two of CO Contact Cleaner and squirt the sh!t out of it.
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Post by Die Judicii » 15 Nov 2019, 3:36 pm

RoginaJack wrote::lol: :lol: up here it's more likely to be under 3ft of dust, leaves and ash. Shouldn't worried about pulling it out (the pump that is) just bottled the water and sent it up here... :clap:


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Post by bladeracer » 15 Nov 2019, 4:25 pm

Twelve months ago we were looking at having to truck water in, now we're floating in it!
The correct name for climate change is weather :-)
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Post by GQshayne » 15 Nov 2019, 8:02 pm

I would do as has been suggested. Valve cover off, it may have a gasket (good) or be siliconed on (annoying to clean up), and clean the valve train. This will of course put any rubbish in the crankcase. Then flush the cases as you intend. Electrical contacts on ignition components and flywheel may need a touch up with sandpaper or a points file etc. Then I would give them a squirt of lanolin.

Carby will need a strip down, but they are a simple Keihin, so not hard to do. Just be careful when taking the bowl off, as it can be the retained for the float pin. The pin will come out easily though, when the bowl is out the way. Watch for the spring on the needle. Drain the fuel tank too.
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Post by Die Judicii » 15 Nov 2019, 10:35 pm

bladeracer wrote:Twelve months ago we were looking at having to truck water in, now we're floating in it!
The correct name for climate change is weather :-)


You mean "weather" it will or "weather" it won't rain ??? :D
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Post by Ecobogan » 16 Nov 2019, 12:53 pm

You're pretty well onto it Blade. Def clean out the intake tract as GQ suggested, remove the exhaust too to ensure no crap is sitting around the exhaust valves etc.
Your mech know how and approach will have sort this one out no dramas me thinks
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Post by bladeracer » 16 Nov 2019, 7:58 pm

All sorted now.
Drained about 250mm of water out of the crankcase, and the cylinder/carb/air cleaner were brim full. Valve cover was fine oddly enough.
Put three fills of oil through it until it was coming out clean.
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