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Re: Prepping for corona and the breakdown of society

Post by trekin » 02 Feb 2020, 2:44 pm

For those keeping score: 170ish comfirmed cases in 26 countries outside of China, zero deaths from that 170. At 2% fatality rate there should have been 3.5 deaths.
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Re: Prepping for corona and the breakdown of society

Post by Bill » 02 Feb 2020, 3:10 pm

unhealthy older people are less likely to be travelling so the stat is fairly irrelevant trekin

and was there a death in the philipines
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Re: Prepping for corona and the breakdown of society

Post by trekin » 02 Feb 2020, 3:27 pm

Bill wrote:unhealthy older people are less likely to be travelling so the stat is fairly irrelevant trekin

and was there a death in the philipines

Yeah just got that update. 44 year old Wuhan escapee who presented to the hospital in Manila on the 25th Jan in pretty bad shape and wasn't really expected to survive.
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Re: Prepping for corona and the breakdown of society

Post by trekin » 02 Feb 2020, 4:02 pm

Bill wrote:unhealthy older people are less likely to be travelling so the stat is fairly irrelevant trekin

and was there a death in the philipines

There is actually a point of contention about this. He presented at the hospital with his partner, who tested positive and listed as that country's first and only case to date. The contentions is whether his test was a false negitive, or whether the hospital is using the virus as a cover. As a result of this death, I have heard that the Philipines Gov't rounded up all the Chinese tourist and sent them packing. If this is true, then this is another example of a near TWC doing more than the Aust Gov't is doing to protect their countrymen.
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Re: Prepping for corona and the breakdown of society

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 02 Feb 2020, 4:04 pm

trekin wrote:(quote)reported case in India,,this will be the litmus test,if it gets out of control there it will travel everywhere, im all for reducing overpopulation as long as im not one of the reduced/quote
One comfirmed, 8 pending, all returning Indian nationals, all in isolation camp. For a near third world country, India's handling of this leaves the what the Australian Gov't way of handling it in the dust.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 756095.cms


Mate the Australians will enjoy a relaxing lifestyle at a tropical island during quarantine. So not too bad and best of all the taxpayer will fund this luxurious holiday :sarcasm:
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Re: Prepping for corona and the breakdown of society

Post by SckSqzBngBlo » 02 Feb 2020, 4:10 pm

Bill wrote:
are you concerned about white people who may have been to china....


It's Chinese New year, most people who have just returned from China will be Chinese, but yes I am concerned about getting sick from anyone who has been to China whether their skin is yellow or brown or white but not blue coz they be dead already
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Re: Prepping for corona and the breakdown of society

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 02 Feb 2020, 4:11 pm

Mate its a TWC, the value of human life and standards is not the same. Hundred people die in Philippines or India... no one gives an F. One person dies in Australia or UK and all hell breaks lose.

Plus in TWC, no dole, no superannuation, very likely no free medical and if there was medical available no F given.
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Re: Prepping for corona and the breakdown of society

Post by Bill » 02 Feb 2020, 4:56 pm

well my partner had her temp taken at Peking Int Airport yesterday, again at Shanghai and on arrival today at Sydney. Plane was only 20% full which means lots of butt hurt for the aviation industry.

Her work has now asked that she not attend for 14 days so an extended holiday :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Prepping for corona and the breakdown of society

Post by sungazer » 02 Feb 2020, 5:59 pm

Allowing people into Australia directly from China kind of contradicts the Government wanting to put the people they bring back from china on Christmas Island for 2 weeks. If quarantining one group is necessary then really all people that have been in China recently should be placed in quarantine.
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Re: Prepping for corona and the breakdown of society

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 02 Feb 2020, 6:05 pm

I thought only the wuhan province people were going to Christmas island.
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Re: Prepping for corona and the breakdown of society

Post by trekin » 02 Feb 2020, 6:59 pm

Mate the Australians will enjoy a relaxing lifestyle at a tropical island during quarantine. So not too bad and best of all the taxpayer will fund this luxurious holiday :sarcasm:
Yep, living the life of Riley, while the rest of us here have to dodge the pox coming in with the returning Chinee students and tourist aloud to still come here, as long as they promise to self isolation if/when they feel the first symptomes of their pox.
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Re: Prepping for corona and the breakdown of society

Post by Stix » 02 Feb 2020, 7:02 pm

Bill wrote:well my partner had her temp taken at Peking Int Airport yesterday, again at Shanghai and on arrival today at Sydney. Plane was only 20% full which means lots of butt hurt for the aviation industry.

Her work has now asked that she not attend for 14 days so an extended holiday :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Prepping for corona and the breakdown of society

Post by trekin » 02 Feb 2020, 7:09 pm

Ziad wrote:I thought only the wuhan province people were going to Christmas island.

Not even. As of yesterday 01 Jan 20;
"Yesterday, on the advice of the Australian Health Protection Principal Committee and the Communicable Diseases Network Australia, the Prime Minister announced strict new travel restrictions:

Effective immediately, foreign nationals (excluding permanent residents of Australia) who are in mainland China, will not be allowed to enter Australia for 14 days from the time they have left or transited through mainland China.
Australian citizens, permanent residents and their immediate family will still be able to enter Australia, as well as airline crews who have been using appropriate personal protective equipment. These are temporary measures and will be reviewed in 14 days."
The Chrismass Island quarantine facility is still only in the committee stage.
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Re: Prepping for corona and the breakdown of society

Post by wanneroo » 03 Feb 2020, 1:23 am

Increasingly this is looking like a Chinese bio weapon as scientists that have looked at it believe it's been hacked with.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -bioweapon

In Thailand, doctors used HIV and flu drugs to save a man that was critically ill from the virus:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... hours.html
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Re: Corona virus

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 20 Feb 2020, 5:16 am

Ahh bioweapon... i hear that rumor, to me it sounds so funny like i am watching a movie, how did the virus escape, did it put on a pair of Nike airwalkers and run away. Maybe a vegan protestor broke into their animal testing labs and liberated all the lab mice and lab rats. It would be good if it was, something for the trump loving to gloat about.

While we are gloating about the bioweapon escaping, and yes the bioweapon is an amusing story, what's more interesting is, in light of the media scaremongering, i have seen a huge rise in the price of p2 masks in Australia.... and how big is the epidemic in Australia.... unless the media has hidden the numbers its still less than 20 confirmed cases and no deaths...yet

And in misery, enterprising humans are selling masks for 10 to 20ea, even some wholesalers have increased their prices by 10 times. So a mask that was selling for $0.90 just four months ago (cuz we bought a huge shipment) is now selling for $15ea. Seeing we use a huge number of masks every year i think the procurement manager probably deserves a pay rise... or atleast a good bottle of scotch)

Instead ill just get myself another gun seeing i hired the guy, so it was my genious and foresight anyway.
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Re: Corona virus

Post by wanneroo » 20 Feb 2020, 5:32 am

They say most masks are not worth a damn preventing it.

This virus is not going away overnight so I think the real test over the next couple of months will be the southern hemisphere. Here in the north we are headed out of our flu and cold virus season as winter ends in March and April and as it begins in Australia if it starts spreading that will be sign for what we could be facing next winter.
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Re: Corona virus

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 20 Feb 2020, 6:58 am

Yep agreed on that mate. Still i think we haven't had a death yet in any developed country.

You in America? How is the scaremongering going on there?
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Re: Corona virus

Post by wanneroo » 20 Feb 2020, 7:46 am

Ziad wrote:Yep agreed on that mate. Still i think we haven't had a death yet in any developed country.

You in America? How is the scaremongering going on there?


It's being talked about but it's flu season and that is what most people are concerned about. It's been a calmer flu season compared to about 2-3 years ago when something like 90000 people died.
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Re: Corona virus

Post by TassieTiger » 20 Feb 2020, 8:12 am

Ziad wrote:Ahh bioweapon... i hear that rumor, to me it sounds so funny like i am watching a movie, how did the virus escape, did it put on a pair of Nike airwalkers and run away. Maybe a vegan protestor broke into their animal testing labs and liberated all the lab mice and lab rats. It would be good if it was, something for the trump loving to gloat about.

While we are gloating about the bioweapon escaping, and yes the bioweapon is an amusing story, what's more interesting is, in light of the media scaremongering, i have seen a huge rise in the price of p2 masks in Australia.... and how big is the epidemic in Australia.... unless the media has hidden the numbers its still less than 20 confirmed cases and no deaths...yet

And in misery, enterprising humans are selling masks for 10 to 20ea, even some wholesalers have increased their prices by 10 times. So a mask that was selling for $0.90 just four months ago (cuz we bought a huge shipment) is now selling for $15ea. Seeing we use a huge number of masks every year i think the procurement manager probably deserves a pay rise... or atleast a good bottle of scotch)

Instead ill just get myself another gun seeing i hired the guy, so it was my genious and foresight anyway.


Science movies? Have you seen this RE the stuxnet virus?
This really opened my eyes - if they are content to i n up to it, imagine what they are not saying...
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Re: Corona virus

Post by marksman » 20 Feb 2020, 8:13 am

apparently Iran has had 2 deaths
the chinese can't pay their workers because of the impact the virus has had on sales :wtf: :roll: because money is more important :roll:
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Re: Corona virus

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 20 Feb 2020, 9:18 am

90,000 people dead from the flu, darn bring this into context.

TT, suxnet was deployed, plus it's a computer virus. From memory i believe CDC in US, have samples of practically all viruses, for "research" proposes. But going back to the bioweapon, if it was an issue we would have seen virus releases from other countries. Because bet you may, they have plenty of foreign trained scientists for them not to do this type of stuff. If you look into cronavirus family it originates from animals and spreads to humans. After the SARS virus there was a big crackdown on selling wild animals which was repealed a year or so ago in certain parts of China.

The first group of Wuhan’s 2019-nCoV patients were mostly traders at the market; one early patient had never visited it. The wet market had a section selling some 120 wildlife animals across 75 species. The first group of Wuhan patients is similar to the first group of Sars patients, who were also traders of wildlife in Guangdong.


I understand MM, in China like most of the world, and very unlike the socialist setup of Australia, there is hardly any sick or annual leave (usually around 10 days a year which is usually forced to be taken every year). Usually most businesses are not made of money mate, no sales = no money= no work. Case in point all the clothing retailers going burst in Australia or George C. Resturant employees losing their jobs.

Or even look at Holden, they don't sell enough cars=no jobs
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Re: Corona virus

Post by marksman » 20 Feb 2020, 9:36 am

l totally understand the situation ziad :thumbsup: l know how it works :lol:
but all they needed to do was not bring out a new virus and they would still be able to pay their employees because there sales would not be affected hey, wouldn't they :lol: China's flu's and viruses ect... are pretty bad and the world doesn't need it :drinks:

l'd also like to say while l'm on my platform :lol:
"l have never voted liberal in my life and won't ever but l am very happy with how Schomo is dealing with corona" :drinks:
in socialist Australia they look after their citizens eg... bushfire relief and we dont shoot our citizens for not wearing masks and being on the street :lol:
may happen and be normal in the middle east but not in socialist Australia :sarcasm: :drinks:

anyway l'm off to do some recreational hunting :drinks:
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Re: Corona virus

Post by TassieTiger » 20 Feb 2020, 8:18 pm

marksman wrote:l totally understand the situation ziad :thumbsup: l know how it works :lol:
but all they needed to do was not bring out a new virus and they would still be able to pay their employees because there sales would not be affected hey, wouldn't they :lol: China's flu's and viruses ect... are pretty bad and the world doesn't need it :drinks:

l'd also like to say while l'm on my platform :lol:
"l have never voted liberal in my life and won't ever but l am very happy with how Schomo is dealing with corona" :drinks:
in socialist Australia they look after their citizens eg... bushfire relief and we dont shoot our citizens for not wearing masks and being on the street :lol:
may happen and be normal in the middle east but not in socialist Australia :sarcasm: :drinks:

anyway l'm off to do some recreational hunting :drinks:


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Re: Corona virus

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 28 Feb 2020, 1:14 pm

Hmm interesting news development. Trump cut 9% budget of CDC, and proposing another 16% cut (Even in light of the current media scare campaign).

Does he know something that we don't... could it be a mountain out of a molehill.

For those who dont know CDC is the American centre for disease control
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Re: Corona virus

Post by flutch » 28 Feb 2020, 2:19 pm

Weather true or not there are congress members on both the Democrat and Republican sides in the United states that are treating it as a possible bioweapon, after all China's major bio lab is in Wuhan.

True or not it's about time all these governments stop f***ing with such things, cant remember if it's Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan, but one of them still has a 100% operating bioweapon plant, yunno anthrax and the likes. So it's not as if this s**t doesn't go on.

China has possibly the worst human rights record of any nation, yes they even make north Korea look tame, their people are generally (sadly), pushy, greedy, selfish, obsessed with money, scammers, rude, inconsiderate, and in poor areas above all desperate. It's a melting pot of bad.

The worst thing about China are it's leaders, and what they do to other people, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if China has a thriving undocumented and undisclosed bio weapon interest, and given the proliferation of sicknesses that come from China it wouldn't be a surprise in the least. They are an ethno-fascist communist regime.
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Re: Corona virus

Post by TassieTiger » 28 Feb 2020, 2:30 pm

Tell us how you really feel lol.
You would be naive to think USA, ussr, uk, maybe Even au - don’t have their own black ops bio weapon departments...
The recent IT bugs developed by USA to screw up Iran’s centrifuged nuclear facilities(successfully) is another game changer - one tech guy from nsa quoted as saying, it is getting to the point where military will be too scared to fire a tech heavy missile, for fear of a historical hack that could see it do anything...explode on take off, divert to another target, what ever...

Lots go on in the back end...”you want the truth? You can’t handle the fukn truth...”
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Re: Corona virus

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 28 Feb 2020, 2:37 pm

True dat Tassie.

I doubt you actually know the location. Let alone the state the bio weapons lab is. Anyway i can't actually find any real reference except this article
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronav ... eak-2020-2
Logic would say, if they created it don't you think they would have a cure for this disease.

Anyway, i heard that America actually released it. And another one where China stole the virus from Canada.
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Re: Corona virus

Post by Bourt » 28 Feb 2020, 3:56 pm

Ziad wrote:Anyway, i heard that America actually released it. And another one where China stole the virus from Canada.


And another where it was Tibet, and another where it was France, and another where it was the Tooth Fairy, and everyone is just spouting nonsense that's actually based on nothing :lol:
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Re: Corona virus

Post by Ferrisweil » 28 Feb 2020, 4:16 pm

tophet1 wrote:It's nowhere near as lethal or contagious as SARS was.
If you wash your hands and maintain some semblance of cleanliness and good health you will be fine {not always the case in China or on airplanes}.
Normal household disinfectants will kill the virus.
Our labs were able to duplicate it in 2 days so it's not a complex virus.
If you want to believe the hype in the media then do so. You'll die of anxiety first.


Couldn’t agree more mate!! I’m currently sitting with two doctors and they’ve been saying the same thing. It’s not deadly unless you’re a frail 70+ year and even then you prolly won’t get it.
Honestly, this is a storm in a teacup and not worth the hype hype the media are pumping into it.
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Re: Corona virus

Post by StraightWhiteMale » 28 Feb 2020, 5:03 pm

Harmless or not mum just bought another 4 weeks supply of MRE rations, flameless ration heaters and bags of sugar and honey. I suggest you all at least stock up on your supplies. Every home should at least have 6 months food/water supply on hand incase of emergencies. My grandad is German and he always tells me how he had to eat his pet horse after the war because he was so hungry and thats all they had. So better to have and not need than need and not have.


Just an FYI Australia has bugger all fuel reserves. After a few days of no oil comming in than the trucks stop delivering to the stores and the shelfs become empty real quick once the panic sets in. Nothing scarier or more unstable than a desperate and hungry person with a family to provide for. No telling what they will do to provide for their kin.
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