My Last Roll...a thread about survival...

[Sergeant Hartman]

Ahh the govt giving money so they can simulate the drug businesses...lol

They gotta do something i suppose... atleast dan got his head kicked in for trying to shut the whole of Victoria. So what is an essential business... agriculture and trades people... is a pump company or a bearing place essential, aborting to the rules not likely... unless If a farmer's water pump dies and he needs a new bearing.... or a new pump?

[wanneroo]

Snowstorm tonight. 3-6 inches or like 15cm. We have a wee bit of green grass, fortunately the apple trees should be a few weeks to sprout, we might need those apples six months from now. Drained the diesel cans into the tractor, mini tractor and RTV. Went out and got diesel, town is as dead as I have ever seen it. Picked up Maccas at the drive thru, they are doing a steady business. With news I only look at statistics now about the virus and a few reputable blogs connected into my Facebook news feed. Blocked news aggregators like The Drudge Report. Way too much panic and hysteria being pedaled out there.

Today shot a bit of 300 Blackout and worked on swaging primer crimps out of converted 5.56 brass for 300 Blackout. My main push this week is to get a bunch of 300 Blackout brass prepped and repair an AR-15 with anti walk pins and a new hammer spring. At the same time I have my progressive set up, so I need to keep cranking on the 9mm.

[marksman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJZuZzU2Vsg

very funny vid Tiger
“Weeds, leaves, and a handful of grass, plenty of things to.. clean yourself”.. toilet paper to us was something the rich folks had

although l think a lot of what has been talked about is very valid
there has to come a time when we think about how not to let this happen again, history will repeat if we dont do it differently
the world has been getting Asian flu's since the 50's but this one has stopped the world, Australia is not the worst affected
so we are all worried about the economy, rising prices, profetering, price gouging ect... so should Australia open its borders again like it has
and still some d1cks reckon its not worth worrying about apparently its reported that there is a 5yr old on a ventilator in the US

l dont think NSW's answer is any different to Vic's
"NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian said schools in the state will remain open, but has encouraged parents to keep their children at home to contain the spread of coronavirus."

l also think we need to listen to the people who have experience in dealing with it and know what works
https://www.channel4.com/news/italian-d ... o-fight-it

a mate who uses 55gr blitzkings in his 222 paid $45 a box two weeks ago but this week paid $65 in the same shop

[Stix]

a mate who uses 55gr blitzkings in his 222 paid $45 a box two weeks ago but this week paid $65 in the same shop

Yep its like that now...its bullsh!t...!

My go to bunny bullets i last got for $72/250...was told they'll be same price...
When i tried to order them they want near enough to $100...

But still havent got any toilet paper...!!

Thinking ill price gouge too...

Here's my fig tree...20ft high & 20ft diameter footprint.

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Thinking ill chop & freeze the leaves...
Esch leaf has 5 wide fingers, each with the equivelant strength of 2 squares of 3 ply dunny paper...

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Im rich...!!!...

Taking orders as of tomorrow morning...

[Oldbloke]

Mmmmm,, fig jam. Love it.

[Bruiser64]

I am currently on the road heading towards Ceduna. There is still no information available as to what will happen when we get to the WA border. There are quite a few WA cars going the same way as us. As we have just left Port Augusta at lunchtime, no one we have seen today will make it to the border by 1.30pm WA time. We certainly wont get there today as it is still 900 km or more away.

It will be very interesting to see what happens. We wont head to the border itself until the Government really makes it clear how things will proceed. I imagine there will be a very large number of people stuck at Bordertown/Eucla. Unfortunately there is no potable water at Eucla. Nor are there any supplies. So if any of us have to stay there for a fortnight, we will need to be self sufficient in water and food. Not to mention the dreaded coight tickets.

It is important for me to maintain perspective. There are people in the world whose loved ones are dead or dying. People all across the country have lost work. If I have to suffer some inconvenience at the border to do my part, so be it.

[Stix]

Ok...ive held off...but no more...

I want to send out a big Fuk You too all the CEO's & Directors etc, of all the publicly listed companies, who are on salaries in the "Millions" & the like, & still drawing income.

Ive heard the likes of the Qantas guy having taken a 6 million cut...but still earning in the realms of 20 odd million fuking dollars... ...Youve got to be kidding me...!!!

In particular, this side of our society completely & utterly disgusts me...!!!...they are fuking pigs in my book...!!
How any human can earn this amount of money & remain straight faced while so many are struggling & cant properly cloth & feed kids is sickening to me...!!!

Is he really that hard up so as to not be able to survive on only One Mill $$ for a year & donate the rest with regulated handouts to those that need it....!!...

If i earned 20 mil a year, id only have to work for one year for myself, then go about helping the less fortunate for rest of my time...

Shame on them...

[TassieTiger]

Mate - the federal group laid off 1500 ppl yesterday from casinos and it’s well known the board is on multiples of millions each...the same board that were found guilty of underpaying a decent portion of their staff...
It’s that top 2% of absolute Fuggen wankers in this country who think their worth 20, 50, 100 times what everyone else is - and it’s pure bulls**t. If they lose money for the company, it was because of an uncontrolled event, if the company goes up - it was their leadership...drives me nuts.
Or like Scott Cam - $300k tax payer salary for doing SFA...how...why. Who approved that...f*** me.
If the s**t hits the proverbial - I’d hope these people, who are clearly living in a fantasy world - get hit the hardest...

[Ziege]

Wouldn't be in a hurry to use fig leaves if I was you, one side is too glossy to wipe properly and the other side can and will leave little hairs off the leaf on your delicate sphincter

[Ziege]

Can't remember exactly Stix but I think I recall the former CEO of auspost was raking in close to 50mil per annum, he got the arse tho, thankfully,


And bruiser, whilst I understand the anxiety of getting home in time for border closures, I personally wouldn't have done so if there was no certainty of services rendered at the quarantine zone, not to mention I wouldn't want to be crammed in with all the other randoms likely piling up there... Better off elsewhere and wait to hear the Goss before heading into it.

[Bruiser64]

Can't remember exactly Stix but I think I recall the former CEO of auspost was raking in close to 50mil per annum, he got the arse tho, thankfully,


And bruiser, whilst I understand the anxiety of getting home in time for border closures, I personally wouldn't have done so if there was no certainty of services rendered at the quarantine zone, not to mention I wouldn't want to be crammed in with all the other randoms likely piling up there... Better off elsewhere and wait to hear the Goss before heading into it.

I agree with you Ziege. Being stuck at Eucla with hundreds of other people would be a very bad idea. We spoke to a Victorian couple at Kimba today. They said they had overnighted it at the Nullabor Roadhouse They said the traffic heading to the WA border this morning was “bumper to bumper”. There are aerial photos of the traffic at the Quarantine checkpoint backed up for a very long way. My thinking at this stage is to wait a day and not go to the border until thursday. Hopefully the rush will be over by the time we get there. Time will tell though.

The regulations have now been released. It appears they will decide when you get there on a case by case basis if you can proceed home to self isolate, or if you have to go to a quarantine centre. My reading of it is if you are a high risk of potential infection, or if you have symptoms, you will have to go to a quarantine centre. Hopefully we will get the go ahead just to head straight home to self isolate.

I do recall that the day before we left on our holiday, Scotty from marketing was encouraging us all to go about our normal business. I suspect he may now regret that recommendation.

[Tiger650]

& steal a load of manure from the farmer...

Do not use horse manure on a garden, the folks who own the things worm them frequently and the remainder of meds in the dung will kill garden worms.

[Blr243]

Every hunting trip last year I bought toilet paper and because it was so cheap I just left it in the cupboard on the hunting block instead of transporting it back to Brisbane. Often I wood forget it was there and buy more on the way out there. So this time I’m setting up camp in the house I open the cupboards and there’s a massive stock of toilet paper like I have never seen. So this time I cram it into my Ute and I bring it back to Brisbane ( locked up in my Ute like my guns so it could not be stolen from me ) so even though the hunt was unsuccessful at least I managed to score a stack of toilet paper. So I spose you could say I cleaned up

[Sergeant Hartman]

Hoarder...lol

Regarding pay packets, if you look around you, there are plenty of people who are skilled at what they do, but fail at running at businesses. It's not very easy running a small business... infinitly harder to run a large or a multinational. Not ont you are answering to 10s of thousands of employees but probably have billions of dollars of people's (like us) money invested into your company. While a AUPost distribution employee has his EBA and works 38hrs a week with overtime and meal breaks or an pilots have unions to argue conditions most normal CEOs work 80-100hr weeks on normal weeks.

So it takes a certain type of person to run a successful company and they are not many of them. You can get a mediocre CEO that just manages the company from falling into a heap, or another mediocre one that finishes it of and runs it to the ground.

To get a good CEO, company directors are looking all over the world and hence have to pay accordingly. So the question is, is a CEO worth $10M or more? Part of this pay is base salary, the rest is bonus and super. So if he makes the company worth more then he gets paid more that's basic capitalism.

Considering the two cases mentioned here the AUSPost guy came in at a time when there was a complete change in the industry. You are a chippy it would be like taking a guy from 1940s and bring him to 2020 overnight, Australia post was losing huge amounts of money setup to deliver letters who no one was posting due to email and couriers and probably won't last without govt giving it billions every year... now its making billion dollar profit. So i would say he was probably justified. Now hes setup the company and the current ceo can cruise along.

Similarly with Alan Joyce, you remember there was another airline than went bankrupt... Ansett.

Now for every good CEO worth their weight in Gold, there will be others that are bad or just not sutiable for the business.

[TassieTiger]

But Z - 99% of the time, the ceos don’t take it on the nose when crap goes wrong - they renegotiate their contracts, making crap loads more whilst their workers struggle.
I think if there was a ceiling of say 1 mill, then everything else was tied to real world - not pliable stats - then ppl would take the huge wages more seriously.
Look at Telstras infamous dr Ziggy switzkowdki...ran the company into the ground, and got an insanely huge payout for doing it...then he went to run an Aust govt nuclear engagement company and did the same - so that man failed at his job for some 6 years and will never have to work a day again because his busy counting his millions. That - is bulldust!

[trekin]

Just a heads up to the TP hoarders, not that any of us are doing this, at least one of the big band grocery outlets is considering facial recognition software to combat people buying more TP than they need.

[Stix]

& steal a load of manure from the farmer...

Do not use horse manure on a garden, the folks who own the things worm them frequently and the remainder of meds in the dung will kill garden worms.

Cheers for the tip Tiger650... ...didnt think of that.

Its sheep poop from under the shearing shed...shed is 9ft off ground & underneath hasnt been cleaned out---ever...!!
I get a mix of the fresher stuff on top, & dig down for the composted gear.
Dig in a layer of mostly the composted stuff then a good sprinkle of the solids over the top then mulch...seems to work well...

Was going to get some cow poop this year but might be restricted for that now.

But now you've got me thinking, ill ask the farmer about the sheep worming & antibiotic intake...

[Bruiser64]

I just rang Border Village Roadhouse to check on the fuels situation. Apparently it is all good. As is Madura Pass. So no issues for us in that regard. The lady at Border Village said after the carnage of the last couple of days, the place is like a ghost town. She said it was quite surreal. These are momentous times really.

We are the only West Australians at the van park. The owner said they all packed up and left on Monday morning. The local store wouldn’t let you come in if you had been to NSW recently. Having said that the Victorians and New South Welshman are happy to stay as their borders are still open.

[Stix]

Just a heads up to the TP hoarders, not that any of us are doing this, at least one of the big band grocery outlets is considering facial recognition software to combat people buying more TP than they need.

Yea good...!!

I have no doubt there are people & groups who spread out & do the rounds every morning...i still havent got any...hope the stashes burn down of those greedy pricks that are hoarding...!!

[TassieTiger]

I read the govt picked up a couple container loads of medical supplies on the docks - about to be shipped to...a country we all know that is not Australia.

Well done border security. Now throw the peeps who arranged this shipment, to the families whom have ppl in funeral homes / on life support.

[Sergeant Hartman]

Finally they did sobering actually good

[Blr243]

Imagine living in a small country town where there is only one IGA. store and your trying to buy toilet paper or steak or bullets or whatever and there’s none. At least in the city we have a multitude of outlets so there is hope we will eventually get stuff

[Stix]

Imagine living in a small country town where there is only one IGA. store and your trying to buy toilet paper or steak or bullets or whatever and there’s none. At least in the city we have a multitude of outlets so there is hope we will eventually get stuff

BLR you'd like to think that country towns would look after themselves--ie-the shop owner have it stashed for the locals & the parked up tourists in need & supporting the local community.

In going to try rabbit fur if i get out to shoot again...

Cant see why it wouldnt work... ill document the experiment & report back...

[Blr243]

A stream , or a dam or a cattle trough will be a good back up plan if the rabbit fur plan does not work Make sure you eat that rabbit because karma will get you. Bad things will happen to a man if he kills a cute little bunny just to wipe his backside

[sungazer]

Imagine living in a small country town where there is only one IGA. store and your trying to buy toilet paper or steak or bullets or whatever and there’s none. At least in the city we have a multitude of outlets so there is hope we will eventually get stuff

I was going to make a post nearly stating exactly that. I live in that sort of situation and only go into the suburb Woolies once every fortnight or so. The last few times things were completely empty. we went today and things were better but I got the only bottle of milk left. They said they had trucks coming but I said to them its a two hour drive and I cant wait. I have kids that need the milk for breakfast ect. Have not seen toilet paper on the shelves for at least a month. Lucky we have other arrangements and still a few rolls.

Stix I use cow poo on the vegie garden and had never thought about worming drugs. My cattle get wormed and vax every year. I dont think it impacts the soil negatively. We have heaps of dung betel's doing there job in the paddocks so it cant be too toxic.

The local foodworks doesn't have any private stashes for locals, at least i haven't asked but it is getting close to that on certain things. Worst at least at first the tourists that pass through the town was emptying it out. Even the local store is a 20 min drive each way so its not like you go in every day to check and or wait for trucks. Its a complete crap shoot.

The flip side is that we are used to living on one trip to the store a fortnight or a top up of milk once a week. Big freezers for deer or a steer, roo for the dog about 30kg of meat frozen. We could survive basically forever but it would be different. Would still need to buy things like sugar and salt. I normally make at least a years supply of tomatoe sauce and pasta sauce but have not seen any sugar.

[trekin]

Imagine living in a small country town where there is only one IGA. store and your trying to buy toilet paper or steak or bullets or whatever and there’s none. At least in the city we have a multitude of outlets so there is hope we will eventually get stuff

Imagine living in a small country village where there is not even a general/corner store, where the nearest grocery outlet is a 40km round trip, the next nearest is 200km or 360km to the city down on the coastal planes.
OOHHH Wait a sec........

[Bruiser64]

Imagine living in a small country village where there is not even a general/corner store, where the nearest grocery outlet is a 40km round trip, the next nearest is 200km or 360km to the city down on the coastal planes.
OOHHH Wait a sec........[/quote]

I think you may be onto something here. My brother in law has a 400 km round trip to come into our town to do all the family shopping. All the restrictions that have had to be put in place due to selfish mongrels panic buying really adversely affects them. They may only come into town every 4 to 6 weeks to shop. The restrictions mean they are prevented from getting the volume they need. The situation is even worse for farms that have to feed workforce. How will those urban nuffies feel if farms cant produce what we all need as they are too disrupted by panic buying?

[Bill]

I like this guys attitude, a Boomer willing to sacrifice his life for the grand kids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCSDEilLllM

[marksman]

I like this guys attitude, a Boomer willing to sacrifice his life for the grand kids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCSDEilLllM

your not a silly bloke Bill, you know that guy would never fall on the sword for his grandchildren
he wants to be able to hoard his toilet paper

from the comments
"This is why people without a science background should NEVER comment on a medical process:

THIS IS NOT AN ELDERLY-only disease!!!!!!"

warning this is hard to watch
https://m.facebook.com/1131056572/posts ... 611516781/

[Stix]

So how are people finding stocks of ammo & reloading components now in their locals...?