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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by sungazer » 03 Apr 2020, 8:50 am

trekin wrote:Irrespective wheather there is methanol (or other chemicals) or not in household metho, no one here is telling people to drink it. Methanol itself is a simple alcohol, and at the right mix will also act as a sanitiser.


Agreed but the discussion went to whether Methanol was as effective as Ethanol as a sanitizer so the little detour was just to show what you buy as Methalated
spirits is Ethanol so you are good to go using it and dont worry about it not being as effective as Ethanol because it is.

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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by Farmerpete » 03 Apr 2020, 1:37 pm

After reading all of straightshooters comment I only have one question- does pyridine have the same freezing point as ethanol
just because I might know an enterprising enthusiast who thinks outside the box
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by Oldbloke » 03 Apr 2020, 5:41 pm

trekin wrote:Irrespective wheather there is methanol (or other chemicals) or not in household metho, no one here is telling people to drink it. Methanol itself is a simple alcohol, and at the right mix will also act as a sanitiser.


Hooray, yes. Its just another type of alcohol. You dont need to kill 100%. Just control the virus by reducing the numbers so they are not viable .
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by Farmerpete » 03 Apr 2020, 7:09 pm

So back on topic as an avo farmer with a current surplus of avos and not knowing any avocado farmers infected I'm going to say avocado is a cure.
It's either that or the pink salt I put with it
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by Noisydad » 03 Apr 2020, 7:23 pm

I work in a liquid (chemical) fertiliser factory where everything has a film or layer of corrosive chemical soup over it. This film is corrosive enough that we’ve written off forklifts because their wiring loom was rotten from end to end. Even concrete gets eaten away.
My plan is to not wash, not wear a mask not change my clothes but get a good coating inside and out of all the sulphates and nitrates, dust, mist and vapour I can as no bugs can live where I work.
There's still a few of Wile. E Coyote's ideas that I haven't tried yet.
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by snag » 03 Apr 2020, 7:33 pm

"So back on topic as an avo farmer with a current surplus of avos and not knowing any avocado farmers infected I'm going to say avocado is a cure."
HA HA HA! Farmerpete, I'm gunna say you're spot on the money, except I'm gunna add macadamias to the cure list 'cos we don't have it either.
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by Farmerpete » 05 Apr 2020, 11:50 am

Sky just reported the new chloroquine it's apparently a head lice treatment named ivemectin
Kero was the best on head lice when I was young so let's try that next
The other treatment when I was a kid had the same active as nitofol maybe we shouldn't have stopped spraying it on spuds and we'd all be immune to covid
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by trekin » 05 Apr 2020, 12:13 pm

Farmerpete wrote:Sky just reported the new chloroquine it's apparently a head lice treatment named ivemectin
Kero was the best on head lice when I was young so let's try that next
The other treatment when I was a kid had the same active as nitofol maybe we shouldn't have stopped spraying it on spuds and we'd all be immune to covid

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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by sungazer » 05 Apr 2020, 12:30 pm

Ivermectin has been used as a cattle drench for over 20 years for killing worms. Its use in the cattle industry is becoming less as the parasites have become resistant to it.
It is also used in worming treatments for humans in conjunction with Albendazole. I still have a few packet from when I lived in Asia and used them every six months just in case.
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Post by trekin » 05 Apr 2020, 1:45 pm

sungazer wrote:Ivermectin has been used as a cattle drench for over 20 years for killing worms. Its use in the cattle industry is becoming less as the parasites have become resistant to it.
It is also used in worming treatments for humans in conjunction with Albendazole. I still have a few packet from when I lived in Asia and used them every six months just in case.

Wonder if Pryantel works as well? Just had a does of that a couple of weeks ago.
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by Farmerpete » 05 Apr 2020, 1:49 pm

Does that mean in the interest of health I should breathe deeply when drenching cattle?
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by Blr243 » 05 Apr 2020, 2:26 pm

A n internal plasterboard contractor once told me that you can avoid silicosis from sanding walls if you drink cans of Jim beam and coke every night. Have not seen him for a while not sure if he is still alive
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by sungazer » 05 Apr 2020, 3:05 pm

Well perhaps not wear gloves when you drench the cattle. I never have and always spill some on myself. On another not I have also used it to treat mange in wombats on advice from my vet well before it became widely accepted animal welfare treatment.
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 05 Apr 2020, 5:41 pm

I know most are not serious... butt as a public service announcement any remedies mentioned in this thread should be not be taken....if you need a reason Google Iranian people dead after drinking methanol as a covid cure
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by Tiger650 » 05 Apr 2020, 6:10 pm

I have 4 litres of Isopropyl Alcohol "hoarded" a few years back and read then that 30% water dilution is necessary to allow water content break cell membrane of bacteria and virus.
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by sungazer » 05 Apr 2020, 7:28 pm

The hand sanitizer protocol is really only effective if you are going into a shop or place that you would not normally go. for families that are living together at home and are effectively isolated wash hands when entering the home but as far as giving you home deep cleaning with Germ and virus killers you are probably doing your family more harm than good.

it has been shown that people today have more food allergies and other forms of allergies from simply not getting outdoors enough and being exposed to what is in nature.
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by Col » 05 Apr 2020, 8:51 pm

As Sungazer mentioned Ivermectin is a drench for cattle and also sheep. The irony is that it was once released as a loucicde for sheep which was used as a wet dip. Then some enterprising people realised that they could dilute it greatly and provide a very cheap form of the the standard Ivermec oral drench for sheep. So they took it off the market. Ivermectin is used in dog heartworm tablets.
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Post by wanneroo » 06 Apr 2020, 1:22 am

sungazer wrote:it has been shown that people today have more food allergies and other forms of allergies from simply not getting outdoors enough and being exposed to what is in nature.


Exactly.
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by TassieTiger » 07 Apr 2020, 6:11 pm

From the WA premier - does he think stating the blatant and repetitive obvious is really going to help ?

"This disease can kill, and if we are not taking the measures required it will take others," he said

really ? It can kill ?? Ffs...
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by Tiger650 » 07 Apr 2020, 9:47 pm

Surely right Tas

"This disease can kill, and if we are not taking the measures required it will take others," he said

My Dad had a saying "Empty vessels make the most noise", referring to people who have to talk any sort of $hit for the purpose of being heard.
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by trekin » 10 Apr 2020, 7:37 am

Update on hand sanitisers, test have now shown that 76% - 83% Ethanol will kill off, or reduce viral load to a negligible level within 30 seconds. Below is a recipe for making a hand sanitiser within that range;
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Diggers brand Metho is 95% Ethanol, 4% water and 1% bitteners.

For anyone who owns a micro brewery, and wants to start making hand sanitisers;
https://www.who.int/gpsc/5may/Guide_to_ ... uction.pdf
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by sungazer » 10 Apr 2020, 9:35 am

I thought they were going to share a good wash recipe. :D Perhaps even a Still Design.
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Re: Stupid simple cures

Post by snag » 10 Apr 2020, 8:09 pm

Metho. Straight from the bottle. Bush first aid at it's simplest and most effective.
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