Any covid unemployed thinking about fruit/veggie picking ?

[Blr243]

Tassie , when u searched pay on fruit picking farms as 150 bucks does that mean you work for a week, and they house and feed you and give you 150 at the end of it?

[Member-Deleted]

Mate I have an Adv-Dip in WHS, if someone is forcing an employee to do dangerous things there are more than a few avenues for reporting anonymously and also if that employee is smart they will get/keep evidence of it as signs of contributory negligence and they will sue and profit greatly. There are more than a few paths to deal with offenders in Occupational Safety and Health issues. And more litigation lawyers would happily take up the cause on a commission basis.

I'd be careful in that field bud, pays well but can cost you a lot too if an incident happens. You'll be the first companies point the fingers at.

Sure there are the "only pay if you win" lawyers, but if that worked, and the WH&S and Fair Work laws worked, we wouldn't have exploitation.

As far the entitled welfare people. Sure, I've met a few, typically single mothers, abo's and potheads. I'm positive they make up a big chunk of the people. There are whole communities who haven't worked in generations (not just abo's), they don't know any different, hell I was just thinking about the other day what my first resumé looked like I had Work Experience: NA (was not totally true, but nothing legitimate or worth mentioning, just the odd labouring job with my father or volunteering doing clean ups) Education: NA (what do you put when you're in grade 8? Hobbies: Music and Video Games (Family was too broke to afford hobbies and I wasn't allowed out of the house unless I was going for a run or going to church s**t). And to top it off... my photo was of me on a dance floor with a Hawaiian shirt on, with those Hawaiian necklaces and long gelled up hair. I wasn't even looking at the camera My father or step mother had never written a resumé, and I didn't think to ask folks at church. It was f***ing rough man hahaha, some people stay like that their whole lives.

I've been working on and off as I moved around a lot, but I have a decent bit of experience and several quals. Been homeless due to pure naivety (flew to New Zealand to start afresh with $250 to start a new life, that lasted 3 hours as I set myself up with a phone, sim, credit, a few days worth of accomodation and little bit if food), that was rough.

I've paid my taxes though, so I do think I am entitled to get some back when the economy s**ts itself and I'm without assets/work due to people's stupidity and government corruption and bulls**t. I'd also go as far as to say that those sending their money and manufacturing overseas have caused a lot of unemployment for lower-class individuals, so, that comes at a cost which is unemployed/unemployable bogans.

But fret not, know that your tax money that goes to the unemployed goes to keeping other people employed, other people's mortgages being paid off, and "job providers" make a killing out of falsifying documents and doing sweet fa to help the unemployed. When I was unemployed, as I currently am now. They never found me an interview, helped me upskill, and find ways to make me more marketable (which is their job, not just a millennial whinging wanting s**t handed to me). They are basically a computer lab that gets a tonne of money from the gov. Unfortunately, many of them I don't believe have to pay taxes due to being religiously affiliated, and some of them or foreignly owned.

BTW, where is that 1,500 a week job and what is it?

[Member-Deleted]

Tassie , when u searched pay on fruit picking farms as 150 bucks does that mean you work for a week, and they house and feed you and give you 150 at the end of it?

There are some HelpX or WOOFING positions that do something similar to that. But farms will either pay you by the hour (which they hate), or pay you a piece rate. If a farmer is providing accomodation, you pay them for it. If they have a vehicle to take you to get groceries, you pay for it on top of the groceries. They may have you write a list of what you want and then they get it. But you pay for it.

If the accomodation is a local hostel, you pay for that hostel to be able to get the job. You pay for shuttle to and from the site, and also to and from the town grocery store.

[TassieTiger]

Tassie , when u searched pay on fruit picking farms as 150 bucks does that mean you work for a week, and they house and feed you and give you 150 at the end of it?

Blueberry farm nsw - $150 per week, covers your accomodation and 3 meals a day - on site. Your paid an hourly wage (22.50) OR negotiate by the punnet (some ppl saying can earn approx 40 an hour but hard to do 8 hours flat out) and you can work as many hours as you want.

[womble]

The world dose’nt owe you a living.
There is no they to help you. They to upskill you. They to find you interviews. They to market you. They to organise your life.
There is no entitlement owing to you.
The economy is global. That’s a fact. Deal with it.

Your fantasy of an employer who’s life revolves around you princess is’nt real.
It dose’nt exist.
Should you find work. Your boss is smarter than you. Your boss does work harder than you to keep a roof over your head and food in your mouth.

You’re not hungry.

[Blr243]

Thanks tassie I misunderstood.....I realise now After a better description that it’s roughly A 900 dollar a week job minus the 150 for accom and food. But at first I thought you cleared 150 for the week after You paid for food and accom ......

[Blr243]

It’s gong to be 40 degrees tomorrow here in northern nsw. I hope my air con does not pack it it. ..too hot to be picking fruit

[Blr243]

I think the worst job in the world would have to be installing ceiling batts in summer

[TassieTiger]

I think the worst job in the world would have to be installing ceiling batts in summer

Bricky labourer runs close 2nd...

[Oldbloke]

[quote="Ziege"]





Mate I have an Adv-Dip in WHS, if someone is forcing an employee to do dangerous things there are more than a few avenues for reporting anonymously and also if that employee is smart they will get/keep evidence of it as signs of contributory negligence and they will sue and profit greatly. There are more than a few paths to deal with offenders in Occupational Safety and Health issues. And more litigation lawyers would happily take up the cause on a commission basis.[/quote]

Great advice

Call worksafe......if the employer even gas a sniff,,,you get the sack.

Sooo... continue to operate plant with SFA guarding,,,loose an arm. Compo won't get your arm back or help. In some states the state government only pays in regular payment so you loose the job search to boot.

Very few farms have the faintest clue about AS/NZS 4024.1201:2014: Safety of machinery – General principles .

Even on this forum, some time back everyone was against add in ROPs to quad bikes.

The reality is that form workers are one of the most at risk industries.

BTW, talk of lawyers is reactive, not proactive.

My advice,,,,be very careful working for a farmer.

[marksman]

as a young bloke waiting to go off to the shearing sheds around Bouke l picked grapes for 2 months,
or should l say l picked grapes for 2 days then drove a tractor for the rest of my time, what BWC is saying is true about it being very hard work for very little gain, l heard all the stories about it being a wild time but really that's is just stories for the ignorant
the worst after it ended was that these people had to go somewhere with very little saved, $150 a week will not pay the rent somewhere while you are away
these are some of the things not thought about by the let them eat cake crowd, l think its a great idea for the young who have finished with school and want an adventure that still live with mom and dad but so would nasho

the biggest change l see is that Australia does not have the work it used to and there are too many sweethearts in the city that think they have all the answers
when l was a teenager you could have a job in the morning quit at lunch and have another job before evening,
work is work and the new kids on the block think that education is the go so they just become professional uni students that could not work in a fit but know everything about fixing the world starting with climate change, socialism, feminism, co-parenting and dont forget BLM

l really dont like the idea of calling Aussies lazy because they will not uproot there lives and go work for farmers when the locals will not do it
the same is said that aussies will not work in aged care but that's just a lie, the facilities get the international workers because they are subsidised by the government and there arses are owned by the company for 5 years or they will not get their permanent residency visa so they can bring in the rest of the family. why would you pay more for local people who will pull the company up on bad procedures and cost more

l would not expect my young kids to go pick fruit for an adventure but would support them if they wanted to
lets face it the only person making a living from it is the farmer

[Member-Deleted]

The world dose’nt owe you a living.
There is no they to help you. They to upskill you. They to find you interviews. They to market you. They to organise your life.
There is no entitlement owing to you.
The economy is global. That’s a fact. Deal with it.

Your fantasy of an employer who’s life revolves around you princess is’nt real.
It dose’nt exist.
Should you find work. Your boss is smarter than you. Your boss does work harder than you to keep a roof over your head and food in your mouth.

You’re not hungry.

You pay your taxes? You vote? You a citizen? You are entitled to the rights and policies your government enacts. If you are eligible to receive social assistance, you are entitled to it for as long as until you are not. I pay taxes, you pay taxes, I'm sure we'd both agree that we'd hope what those taxes are paying for is actually doing it's job. Whether it's the unemployed looking for work, or the job network providers that are there to assist them to do that. Surely you're entitled to a whinge if they are not big nuts.

[Member-Deleted]

as a young bloke waiting to go off to the shearing sheds around Bouke l picked grapes for 2 months,
or should l say l picked grapes for 2 days then drove a tractor for the rest of my time, what BWC is saying is true about it being very hard work for very little gain, l heard all the stories about it being a wild time but really that's is just stories for the ignorant
the worst after it ended was that these people had to go somewhere with very little saved, $150 a week will not pay the rent somewhere while you are away
these are some of the things not thought about by the let them eat cake crowd, l think its a great idea for the young who have finished with school and want an adventure that still live with mom and dad but so would nasho

the biggest change l see is that Australia does not have the work it used to and there are too many sweethearts in the city that think they have all the answers
when l was a teenager you could have a job in the morning quit at lunch and have another job before evening,
work is work and the new kids on the block think that education is the go so they just become professional uni students that could not work in a fit but know everything about fixing the world starting with climate change, socialism, feminism, co-parenting and dont forget BLM

l really dont like the idea of calling Aussies lazy because they will not uproot there lives and go work for farmers when the locals will not do it
the same is said that aussies will not work in aged care but that's just a lie, the facilities get the international workers because they are subsidised by the government and there arses are owned by the company for 5 years or they will not get their permanent residency visa so they can bring in the rest of the family. why would you pay more for local people who will pull the company up on bad procedures and cost more

l would not expect my young kids to go pick fruit for an adventure but would support them if they wanted to
lets face it the only person making a living from it is the farmer

Well said good sir!

[Oldbloke]

as a young bloke waiting to go off to the shearing sheds around Bouke l picked grapes for 2 months,
or should l say l picked grapes for 2 days then drove a tractor for the rest of my time, what BWC is saying is true about it being very hard work for very little gain, l heard all the stories about it being a wild time but really that's is just stories for the ignorant
the worst after it ended was that these people had to go somewhere with very little saved, $150 a week will not pay the rent somewhere while you are away
these are some of the things not thought about by the let them eat cake crowd, l think its a great idea for the young who have finished with school and want an adventure that still live with mom and dad but so would nasho

the biggest change l see is that Australia does not have the work it used to and there are too many sweethearts in the city that think they have all the answers
when l was a teenager you could have a job in the morning quit at lunch and have another job before evening,
work is work and the new kids on the block think that education is the go so they just become professional uni students that could not work in a fit but know everything about fixing the world starting with climate change, socialism, feminism, co-parenting and dont forget BLM

l really dont like the idea of calling Aussies lazy because they will not uproot there lives and go work for farmers when the locals will not do it
the same is said that aussies will not work in aged care but that's just a lie, the facilities get the international workers because they are subsidised by the government and there arses are owned by the company for 5 years or they will not get their permanent residency visa so they can bring in the rest of the family. why would you pay more for local people who will pull the company up on bad procedures and cost more

l would not expect my young kids to go pick fruit for an adventure but would support them if they wanted to
lets face it the only person making a living from it is the farmer

Well said good sir!

Yep, pretty right.

And to all those calling the unemployed dole bludgers think again. If you are working and you need sick leave would you take it?
The answer is yes if you are sick, & this is a simple/basic legislative entitlement.
Well guess what, so is the dole payment a very basic legislative entitlement and the legislation is passed by the legislators, not you or me or the farmers or any of the employers. The elected legislators

Sooo, if someone is not working but is searching I have never had a problem with them getting ALL the assistance they are entitled to.

I'm sure the farmers and big companies are ALL claiming any thing they can get from the various governments including tax concessions.

I remember this very well. And nothing in business has changed. Last 25 seconds of K Packer video

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... mgfaq.html

PS. People who go around calling unemployed dole bludgers have been coned. Who by, the privately owned media. Yep, they are big business who are, guess what? Claiming all the tax concessions they can get or hiring kids at low wages and with government assistance.

[Member-Deleted]

Mate I have an Adv-Dip in WHS, if someone is forcing an employee to do dangerous things there are more than a few avenues for reporting anonymously and also if that employee is smart they will get/keep evidence of it as signs of contributory negligence and they will sue and profit greatly. There are more than a few paths to deal with offenders in Occupational Safety and Health issues. And more litigation lawyers would happily take up the cause on a commission basis.[/quote]

Great advice

Call worksafe......if the employer even gas a sniff,,,you get the sack.

Sooo... continue to operate plant with SFA guarding,,,loose an arm. Compo won't get your arm back or help. In some states the state government only pays in regular payment so you loose the job search to boot.

Very few farms have the faintest clue about AS/NZS 4024.1201:2014: Safety of machinery – General principles .

Even on this forum, some time back everyone was against add in ROPs to quad bikes.

The reality is that form workers are one of the most at risk industries.

BTW, talk of lawyers is reactive, not proactive.

My advice,,,,be very careful working for a farmer.

Will keep in mind, thank you. Especially a pig farmer :p "Oh, BWC? Nah, he hasn't turned up to work for a while now... I figured he just couldn't hack it and quit, you know how it is".

[Ziege]

Mate I have an Adv-Dip in WHS, if someone is forcing an employee to do dangerous things there are more than a few avenues for reporting anonymously and also if that employee is smart they will get/keep evidence of it as signs of contributory negligence and they will sue and profit greatly. There are more than a few paths to deal with offenders in Occupational Safety and Health issues. And more litigation lawyers would happily take up the cause on a commission basis.

I'd be careful in that field bud, pays well but can cost you a lot too if an incident happens. You'll be the first companies point the fingers at.

Sure there are the "only pay if you win" lawyers, but if that worked, and the WH&S and Fair Work laws worked, we wouldn't have exploitation.

As far the entitled welfare people. Sure, I've met a few, typically single mothers, abo's and potheads. I'm positive they make up a big chunk of the people. There are whole communities who haven't worked in generations (not just abo's), they don't know any different, hell I was just thinking about the other day what my first resumé looked like I had Work Experience: NA (was not totally true, but nothing legitimate or worth mentioning, just the odd labouring job with my father or volunteering doing clean ups) Education: NA (what do you put when you're in grade 8? Hobbies: Music and Video Games (Family was too broke to afford hobbies and I wasn't allowed out of the house unless I was going for a run or going to church s**t). And to top it off... my photo was of me on a dance floor with a Hawaiian shirt on, with those Hawaiian necklaces and long gelled up hair. I wasn't even looking at the camera My father or step mother had never written a resumé, and I didn't think to ask folks at church. It was f***ing rough man hahaha, some people stay like that their whole lives.

I've been working on and off as I moved around a lot, but I have a decent bit of experience and several quals. Been homeless due to pure naivety (flew to New Zealand to start afresh with $250 to start a new life, that lasted 3 hours as I set myself up with a phone, sim, credit, a few days worth of accomodation and little bit if food), that was rough.

I've paid my taxes though, so I do think I am entitled to get some back when the economy s**ts itself and I'm without assets/work due to people's stupidity and government corruption and bulls**t. I'd also go as far as to say that those sending their money and manufacturing overseas have caused a lot of unemployment for lower-class individuals, so, that comes at a cost which is unemployed/unemployable bogans.

But fret not, know that your tax money that goes to the unemployed goes to keeping other people employed, other people's mortgages being paid off, and "job providers" make a killing out of falsifying documents and doing sweet fa to help the unemployed. When I was unemployed, as I currently am now. They never found me an interview, helped me upskill, and find ways to make me more marketable (which is their job, not just a millennial whinging wanting s**t handed to me). They are basically a computer lab that gets a tonne of money from the gov. Unfortunately, many of them I don't believe have to pay taxes due to being religiously affiliated, and some of them or foreignly owned.

BTW, where is that 1,500 a week job and what is it?

under WA law the buck stops with the employer, so OHS officer cant be in the firing line as the only person vulnerable at the end of the day is the employer themselves.

[Ziege]

It’s gong to be 40 degrees tomorrow here in northern nsw. I hope my air con does not pack it it. ..too hot to be picking fruit

40* is that all? Ive roofed in over 50* for more than a week straight, and I've been stuck in the sun in full welding getup in that sun too on concrete slabs. Picking fruit would be a holiday.

[Member-Deleted]

Yep, pretty right.

And to all those calling the unemployed dole bludgers think again. If you are working and you need sick leave would you take it?
The answer is yes if you are sick, & this is a simple/basic legislative entitlement.
Well guess what, so is the dole payment a very basic legislative entitlement and the legislation is passed by the legislators, not you or me or the farmers or any of the employers. The elected legislators

Sooo, if someone is not working but is searching I have never had a problem with them getting ALL the assistance they are entitled to.

I'm sure the farmers and big companies are ALL claiming any thing they can get from the various governments including tax concessions.

I remember this very well. And nothing in business has changed. Last 25 seconds of K Packer video

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... mgfaq.html

PS. People who go around calling unemployed dole bludgers have been coned. Who by, the privately owned media. Yep, they are big business who are, guess what? Claiming all the tax concessions they can get or hiring kids at low wages and with government assistance.

Too right, while there really are quite a number of people who abuse the system, I guaran-fucking-tee you that far more of that money goes back into the system through groceries, public housing, bills and whatever else. Big companies getting tax-payers money use as little of it as possible to bank the rest or get further investments. If I received the money they get, mate, I'd never be on the dole again

I actually did the calculations a few months ago. If you take the amount of income taxpayers in Australia, and grab the average salary, and take the average tax out of that, multiply it with the amount of taxpayers, and divide it by the amount of people on welfare x welfare amount. I'm currently costing a single tax payer approx. 0.0013 cents a year. That is not including business or investment taxes, that's purely income tax. Maybe a little more due to the covid supplement.

But yes, whenever the economy goes to s**t, who does the media point the finger at? The poor. Takes the attention off the real money wasters.

[Member-Deleted]

under WA law the buck stops with the employer, so OHS officer cant be in the firing line as the only person vulnerable at the end of the day is the employer themselves.

That is fortunate, congratulations!

[Ziege]

your 0.0013 cents adds up to 26% of the GDP once you factor in all the other 0.0013'ers

None of my work comes from anyone who is on welfare, so as far as that money going back into the economy I dont see a red cent of it.

However I can tell you who does, Mr Michaels who is our local Drug dealer and methspert. guarantee you at least 80%+ of the dole recipients in this town visit his house for gear, and weed and whatever else. and every other small town has the same facsimile of people.

[Member-Deleted]

your 0.0013 cents adds up to 26% of the GDP once you factor in all the other 0.0013'ers

None of my work comes from anyone who is on welfare, so as far as that money going back into the economy I dont see a red cent of it.

However I can tell you who does, Mr Michaels who is our local Drug dealer and methspert. guarantee you at least 80%+ of the dole recipients in this town visit his house for gear, and weed and whatever else. and every other small town has the same facsimile of people.

Well hey, he's got to spend that money on common and luxury goods anyway haha it's not going overseas directly.

What is your job position? WHS supervisor?

[TassieTiger]

It’s gong to be 40 degrees tomorrow here in northern nsw. I hope my air con does not pack it it. ..too hot to be picking fruit

40* is that all? Ive roofed in over 50* for more than a week straight, and I've been stuck in the sun in full welding getup in that sun too on concrete slabs. Picking fruit would be a holiday.

I’m not to proud to say that I tried roofing in summer and couldn’t hack it - I was going to fall snd I knew it...
Thing is for me - attitude to a job is everything...even fruit picking with a few good ppl can be a lot of fun...I’ve never been hit in the head by so many farken grapes in my life.
It’s very easy to slip into a position of “entitlement” and be grumpy at the world, but that again is attitude...would I personally go fruit picking myself, today ? If I was trying to buy something I really wanted, if I was losing my roof, if I needed money for insert (urgent need) - then I’d do what ever work I could to step forward...if I hated the job, I’d look for another job whilst I remained at that job to keep moving forward...as someone else above said - the fact that many don’t have same/ similar work ethic is what gives others an edge...as someone who now employs ppl in various - I look for a positive, fun, attitude above almost everything else...

[Ziege]

your 0.0013 cents adds up to 26% of the GDP once you factor in all the other 0.0013'ers

None of my work comes from anyone who is on welfare, so as far as that money going back into the economy I dont see a red cent of it.

However I can tell you who does, Mr Michaels who is our local Drug dealer and methspert. guarantee you at least 80%+ of the dole recipients in this town visit his house for gear, and weed and whatever else. and every other small town has the same facsimile of people.

Well hey, he's got to spend that money on common and luxury goods anyway haha it's not going overseas directly.

What is your job position? WHS supervisor?

No not presently, I used to be HSE for my mates company.

I did the study, like most of my study, when contracting In the Pilbara. I managed to do a WHS Adv Dip, Counselling Dip, Frontline Management Dip, Project Management Dip. all when I got home to the Donga each arvo/evening.

When I finished up there I took a job with my mates company (wasn't friends with him at this stage) and Completed my Welding Certs and Bolstered the Adv Dip I have in Mechanical Engineering (drafting), all this time I had a wife/kids, music career on the side, as well as tinkering with expensive ass cars.

people with little or no quals in Australia are wilfully unqualified.

[Member-Deleted]

I’m not to proud to say that I tried roofing in summer and couldn’t hack it - I was going to fall snd I knew it...
Thing is for me - attitude to a job is everything...even fruit picking with a few good ppl can be a lot of fun...I’ve never been hit in the head by so many farken grapes in my life.
It’s very easy to slip into a position of “entitlement” and be grumpy at the world, but that again is attitude...would I personally go fruit picking myself, today ? If I was trying to buy something I really wanted, if I was losing my roof, if I needed money for insert (urgent need) - then I’d do what ever work I could to step forward...if I hated the job, I’d look for another job whilst I remained at that job to keep moving forward...as someone else above said - the fact that many don’t have same/ similar work ethic is what gives others an edge...as someone who now employs ppl in various - I look for a positive, fun, attitude above almost everything else...

I can tell you now, I would not be your first pick

I joke around and make people laugh while working hard, and I have great customer service skills, but I am not positive in the least. Can I make your business money? Probably, but life sucks haha. I hate when people are after "smiley, bubbly superstars! That are super motivated"... Mate, I work hard, I try to please the customers while still making the business money, but I'm not hopped up on fairy dust, and I'm not going out of my way to be a corporate shrill. I make mistakes, I get angry, I swear and maybe throw my pen down. I don't let it out in front of customers. It's one of the reasons I hate working with women. I'm a "big scary guy" and when I get angry it intimidates the wahmen so they go tell HR and then I get pulled into the office. Farkoff with that. I don't dob on you if you have a little tissy, I expect the same courtesy.

[Ziege]

I personally couldn't work in an office job or retail job again for any extended period of time, I would if I had to, but definitely not my first choice, all I can picture is retarded mums returning to work and expecting to run the place, feminists being triggered, vegans preaching, transgender fairies everywhere making a scene, poofs and lezzos making the same scene, customers and affiliates of that variety too, echo chambers for left wing softcocks, bleeding heart morons, etc etc etc etc etc, all the kind that get told to f*** off on a trades dominated site.

[Member-Deleted]

your 0.0013 cents adds up to 26% of the GDP once you factor in all the other 0.0013'ers

None of my work comes from anyone who is on welfare, so as far as that money going back into the economy I dont see a red cent of it.

However I can tell you who does, Mr Michaels who is our local Drug dealer and methspert. guarantee you at least 80%+ of the dole recipients in this town visit his house for gear, and weed and whatever else. and every other small town has the same facsimile of people.

Well hey, he's got to spend that money on common and luxury goods anyway haha it's not going overseas directly.

What is your job position? WHS supervisor?

No not presently, I used to be HSE for my mates company.

I did the study, like most of my study, when contracting In the Pilbara. I managed to do a WHS Adv Dip, Counselling Dip, Frontline Management Dip, Project Management Dip. all when I got home to the Donga each arvo/evening.

When I finished up there I took a job with my mates company (wasn't friends with him at this stage) and Completed my Welding Certs and Bolstered the Adv Dip I have in Mechanical Engineering (drafting), all this time I had a wife/kids, music career on the side, as well as tinkering with expensive ass cars.

people with little or no quals in Australia are wilfully unqualified.

You're right, you probably wouldn't see the money from them directly, but it'll get to someone who will give it to you directly.

I also agree about the quals for the most part. Some people are just not intelligent enough (believe it or not). I personally have quite a few and would like to get more. Though none of mine as of yet surpass cert III. I have the following:
- Cert II in Business
- Cert III in Business (I had to pull out the last week which was work experience because I had some pretty difficult circumstances to deal with, so the status is "withdrawn in good standing" but I count that bitch )
- Cert II in Maritime Operations
- Marine Radio Operators Certificate of Proficiency
- Elements of Shipboard Safety
- Apply First Aid
- Coxswain Grade 1 (Near Coastal) (Expired at the start of the year as I didn't have the sea time to renew it.)
- Open Cabling Registration
- Cert II in Security Ops
- RSA
- First Aid
- Cert III in Security Ops (Control Room and Aviation)
- Cert III in Locksmithing

I'm moving next week to the Yarra Ranges and there's a few jobs around there, I'll hopefully score one :p if not I'll probably do a Cert III in Horticulture to help me get a foot in the door with legit farm work.

[cz515]

Too bloody right tassie.

[Member-Deleted]

I personally couldn't work in an office job or retail job again for any extended period of time, I would if I had to, but definitely not my first choice, all I can picture is retarded mums returning to work and expecting to run the place, feminists being triggered, vegans preaching, transgender fairies everywhere making a scene, poofs and lezzos making the same scene, customers and affiliates of that variety too, echo chambers for left wing softcocks, bleeding heart morons, etc etc etc etc etc, all the kind that get told to f*** off on a trades dominated site.

Regrettably this was a trade XD. Technically the ladies were in more of a manufacturing role. But the HR lady was a stark feminist and her boss... A fat butch with a short pixie haircut. She was a delight...

I got in deep s**t when the directors son who is a manager was talking about hiring more females, and I flat out told him I'd stop working for him because I do not want to work in close proximity to women. The female manager next to him started screeching and yelling and the female HR was listening too hahaha surprisingly she understood but pulled me into the office anyway, and was still pushing the envelope trying to hire women.

[Shootermick]

I’m not to proud to say that I tried roofing in summer and couldn’t hack it - I was going to fall snd I knew it...
Thing is for me - attitude to a job is everything...even fruit picking with a few good ppl can be a lot of fun...I’ve never been hit in the head by so many farken grapes in my life.
It’s very easy to slip into a position of “entitlement” and be grumpy at the world, but that again is attitude...would I personally go fruit picking myself, today ? If I was trying to buy something I really wanted, if I was losing my roof, if I needed money for insert (urgent need) - then I’d do what ever work I could to step forward...if I hated the job, I’d look for another job whilst I remained at that job to keep moving forward...as someone else above said - the fact that many don’t have same/ similar work ethic is what gives others an edge...as someone who now employs ppl in various - I look for a positive, fun, attitude above almost everything else...

I can tell you now, I would not be your first pick

I joke around and make people laugh while working hard, and I have great customer service skills, but I am not positive in the least. Can I make your business money? Probably, but life sucks haha. I hate when people are after "smiley, bubbly superstars! That are super motivated"... Mate, I work hard, I try to please the customers while still making the business money, but I'm not hopped up on fairy dust, and I'm not going out of my way to be a corporate shrill. I make mistakes, I get angry, I swear and maybe throw my pen down. I don't let it out in front of customers. It's one of the reasons I hate working with women. I'm a "big scary guy" and when I get angry it intimidates the wahmen so they go tell HR and then I get pulled into the office. Farkoff with that. I don't dob on you if you have a little tissy, I expect the same courtesy.

BWC,I wouldn’t put any of that on your resume, just quietly.

[Ziege]

Most long term unemployed people are just 100% unrealistic about their prospects,

Case:

Bradley (partner of friend of the ex wife)

This muppet comes to me one day with his GF and asks me what is the go with no one hiring him, he has his resume all pretty and neat, has a few references that dont appear to be rellies, has a high school graduation cert.

so I say to him, Ok, what do you wear to an interview? he says "this" pointing to his ice hockey jersey, baggy jeans and hat on backwards with worn out Vans shoes...

So I ask, where are you applying for work? he replies that he is applying at construction companies and car dealerships and bars and restaurants and games shops....

So I say, do you turn up to all their interviews dressed the same? He proudly says yes, I shake my head in disbelief.

I then goto his facebook profile, his background feature image is a massive Weed leaf, then his profile pic is him trying to be some try hard homie G....

I then google his name and find more of the same....

I then ask him, do you have a drivers license or car? he says no... then I ask do you think maybe you should get at least a license? his reply was long and something along the lines of "I dont want to get a license because I don't have a car, and I don't want to get a car cos I wont be allowed to drive it anyway cos I haven't got a license"................... In psychological terms he is using circular reasoning as a symptom of a more sinister issue, Learned helplessness.

I then say well you should at the very least get a license. because then at least you have a valid ID and can legally drive if needed. He then rants on about how a car is an extra expense, again with the learned helplessness.....

I say another hint is ditch the social media and do an online scrub of all the rapping garbage and wanna be gangsta rap nonsense. He gives me a tyrade about that being his dream in life... so I get him to show me some... its not good... so I suggest keeping his day job (pun intended) (I've had airplay on commercial radio in bands of past, so I know a thing or two about success/failure in the music industry) because he isn't even close to competing with the likes of hilltop hoods, bliss n esso or true live.

In the end he wanted to be a no hoper bludger on the dole with his retarded rap dreams, the only reason he asked for assistance was to appease his GF who was the sole earner and only real adult in the relationship. I would assume she has ditched the guy by now.