Downunder wrote:Add immigration into the population growth and it’s easy to see that the lack of infrastructure investment Is going to impact us in a few years far more than we can imagine......
Downunder wrote:Add immigration into the population growth and it’s easy to see that the lack of infrastructure investment Is going to impact us in a few years far more than we can imagine......
womble wrote:Downunder wrote:Add immigration into the population growth and it’s easy to see that the lack of infrastructure investment Is going to impact us in a few years far more than we can imagine......
Well that’s some seriously backwards logic haha.
Roughly one third of our population at any given time are immigrants and mostly of working age. Welcome to Australia. Since like colonisation.
Infrastructure investment. I’m lucky if i only work 60 hours a week. Nearly everyone i know is in the same boat.
https://constructionglobal.com/construction-projects/big-build-fuels-victorias-construction-boom
womble wrote:How is it deflective when it’s the topic you queried.
And then endorsed with acknowledgement of the boom.
Oh that’s right you hate progress.
cz515 wrote:Transport well that's never going be fixed, not sure how you can bridge 1100km gap between Sydney and Melbourne or the 3700km between Melbourne and Darwin. Or that Melbourne's suburbs are spread over 100+km diameter... and our love of big house and backyards. When you have concentrated populations it's easy to develop transport.
I have to give it though, people are still worried about immigration, esp considering the borders have been shut nearly 2 years now. No immigration is happening... heck even Australians are having hard time getting back in... but house prices are still jumping up in record numbers......go figure
Here are some facts from 2019 census, 1m people from uk, 720k people from India. China is actually lower than India and are number 3. Since 2015 the Indians have been growing like rabbits and we worry about Chinese.
cz515 wrote:It's a boom because they are spending in 5 years, what they should have been spending over the last 40 years.
But it's a boom.
cz515 wrote:No they were two seperate points... hence the extra line space.
I argue that with proper planning increase in population is not just a good thing, but an extremely important thing for the future of Australia
I could give you a few reasons why that is important, which you are not going to believe. So ill just say successive governments, economists all agree and support immigration. And not just Australia but other countries do it as well 0
cz515 wrote:The flip side is an older saying that there is no point in reinventing the wheel.
cz515 wrote:Down under
What war your previous name, your argumentative tone sounds very familiar
straightshooter wrote:This discussion has taken an interesting turn.
It was before my time but on conclusion of WWII and even earlier the concept of 'populate or perish' was a widely held view.
I recall seeing some years ago newsreel footage from that era of Arthur Caldwell (Laber foreign minister at the time) that they were even going to allow the immigration of foreigners. Nevertheless old ingrained predispositions remain in a significant part of the population.
As for why infrastructure is now booming. There is only one real reason. Not only are the 'right people' getting the contracts to build it but also, and more importantly, the 'right people' are getting the tailing profits.
straightshooter wrote:This discussion has taken an interesting turn.
It was before my time but on conclusion of WWII and even earlier the concept of 'populate or perish' was a widely held view.
I recall seeing some years ago newsreel footage from that era of Arthur Caldwell (Laber foreign minister at the time) that they were even going to allow the immigration of foreigners. Nevertheless old ingrained predispositions remain in a significant part of the population.
As for why infrastructure is now booming. There is only one real reason. Not only are the 'right people' getting the contracts to build it but also, and more importantly, the 'right people' are getting the tailing profits.