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What shops sell springs?

Post by disco stu » 12 Sep 2021, 12:10 pm

So, been playing around with my Browning/FN trombone. Trigger is quite heavy, and I think it's mainly down to the main/hammer spring being too heavy, placing to much force on the sear.

I want to try putting a bit lighter trigger spring and a lighter hammer spring in it and see how it goes. The hammer moves a fair way forward before it strikes the firing pin, so I'm thinking that leaves plenty of inertia for firing pin to strike the rim. Plus I'm thinking this spring isn't original, not that I can find details on original.

What I need is something around 7.5mm OD, 130mm long type of thing, so much longer than normal springs.

So anyway, just wondering if anyone can tell me the sort of shops that sell springs that aren't your run of the mill short ones you buy at Bunnings? I wasn't sure if it's the sort of thing stocked by fastener/bolt shops, or if bearing and o ring shops would generally have them? Can't find any reference to springs on the websites of those kind of shops locally, and eBay doesn't seem to have anything close that isn't located in China.

I'm hoping to buy locally as I would like to compare to the current spring.

Appreciate any advice you all might have

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Post by bladeracer » 12 Sep 2021, 12:20 pm

disco stu wrote:So, been playing around with my Browning/FN trombone. Trigger is quite heavy, and I think it's mainly down to the main/hammer spring being too heavy, placing to much force on the sear.

I want to try putting a bit lighter trigger spring and a lighter hammer spring in it and see how it goes. The hammer moves a fair way forward before it strikes the firing pin, so I'm thinking that leaves plenty of inertia for firing pin to strike the rim. Plus I'm thinking this spring isn't original, not that I can find details on original.

What I need is something around 7.5mm OD, 130mm long type of thing, so much longer than normal springs.

So anyway, just wondering if anyone can tell me the sort of shops that sell springs that aren't your run of the mill short ones you buy at Bunnings? I wasn't sure if it's the sort of thing stocked by fastener/bolt shops, or if bearing and o ring shops would generally have them? Can't find any reference to springs on the websites of those kind of shops locally, and eBay doesn't seem to have anything close that isn't located in China.

I'm hoping to buy locally as I would like to compare to the current spring.

Appreciate any advice you all might have

Stu


You need to know the wire diameter and the spring pitch in addition to the length and diameter.
I would try Ebay, and being Chinese they're cheap enough that you can get a selection.
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Post by Bugman » 12 Sep 2021, 12:55 pm

BR is right. but it may be worth a call to a gunsmith, don't where you are situated, however I had a gunsmith up Newcastle way do a similar repair on my old Henry 22 pump action. He made the spring himself and fitted it and it work well. OR Try Rebel gun works in Brisbane.
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Post by pomemax » 12 Sep 2021, 1:27 pm

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/i ... 3=Browning try here 18 pages of parts for browning
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Post by Oldbloke » 12 Sep 2021, 2:25 pm

Have you tried the trigger guy on face ache?
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Post by Die Judicii » 12 Sep 2021, 3:07 pm

Most reasonable sized town/cities have at least one Spring Maker.
They make their own, and if you go see them, they usually have sh!tloads of springs of all shape and sizes.
If you can't find a suitable one off their shelf, they'll be able to do a custom job.

The one in my home town had just the spring I was after recently,,,, and the manager "gave" it to me. :thumbsup:
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Post by disco stu » 12 Sep 2021, 5:13 pm

Thanks all.

I've searched for details on this part to compare to what I've got just to know if what I've got is original, nothing around at all. Whatever is around is second hand.

I did find one place online that has something that looks like it will suit-thinner wire so hopefully a bit lighter. If I can't find local I'll do that. My intention was to just trim it down a bit also and see what the trigger feels like, keeping the original stashed away untouched. Getting gun smith to make one is getting well outside the scope, I know what I'm looking for is around as I've used all sorts in the past for various things

That's what I'm looking for DJ-i'll have a look and see if there is a spring maker here. Trying to find a shop that sells them is proving futile.
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Post by Oldbloke » 12 Sep 2021, 5:24 pm

Have you got a pic? Preferably with a ruler beside it. Someone may have something in the shed.
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Post by disco stu » 12 Sep 2021, 5:53 pm

Good idea, cheers

Dimensions, in normal logical units is OD ~7.5mm, wire 0.85mm, length is right on 130mm.

I was intending to try something around 0.65 wire diameter and trim it down a bit and see how the trigger is. OD isn't overly important, but it just needs ID greater than 5.5mm
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Post by bladeracer » 12 Sep 2021, 7:28 pm

disco stu wrote:Good idea, cheers

Dimensions, in normal logical units is OD ~7.5mm, wire 0.85mm, length is right on 130mm.

I was intending to try something around 0.65 wire diameter and trim it down a bit and see how the trigger is. OD isn't overly important, but it just needs ID greater than 5.5mm


Pitch looks to be around 2.5mm?

This seller has a decent range of light springs.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/222588404129
0.3mm up to 2.0mm wire, 300mm lengths to cut to whatever length you need.
Probably take a few weeks to arrive though.
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Post by Oldbloke » 12 Sep 2021, 7:56 pm

I have these.
5.5 mm ID
7.7mm OD
0.85 mm wire
5.0 mm pitch
Too short but I have 2

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You could use both and shorten one. Sounds very close to what you have but these feel soft, easy to compress.
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Post by Downunder » 12 Sep 2021, 8:56 pm

This mob is local to me, home business that specialises in online with a huge amount of stock on hand.
He’s never let us down with all manner of springs for our machinery.

http://www.asisprings.com.au
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Post by disco stu » 12 Sep 2021, 10:45 pm

Cheers guys.

BR: is the only concern with pitch being the compressed length? I'll pop it back out tomorrow and measure that, one thing I forgot before

Appreciate the offer old bloke.

I thunk I found a spring maker close by (port Kembla, home of the Owen gun). I was thinking it shouldn't be too hard around here being a steel town. I'll give them a call tomorrow and see what they have
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Post by disco stu » 12 Sep 2021, 10:53 pm

Downunder wrote:This mob is local to me, home business that specialises in online with a huge amount of stock on hand.
He’s never let us down with all manner of springs for our machinery.

http://www.asisprings.com.au


Thanks downunder. Nothing in the catalogue that suits. I found somewhere else today that has something if I can't find local at least
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Post by Oldbloke » 12 Sep 2021, 11:00 pm

disco stu wrote:Cheers guys.

BR: is the only concern with pitch being the compressed length? I'll pop it back out tomorrow and measure that, one thing I forgot before

Appreciate the offer old bloke.

I thunk I found a spring maker close by (port Kembla, home of the Owen gun). I was thinking it shouldn't be too hard around here being a steel town. I'll give them a call tomorrow and see what they have


When I give you a price you might not be interested. :allegedly: :lol: :lol:
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Post by disco stu » 13 Sep 2021, 5:43 pm

After my time on the phone today, whatever over inflated price you charge is probably fair OB!!

So the local spring maker has closed. The place that has what I need didn't recognise their own part number and sent me on a wild chase of different distributors (not that bad) who don't actually have it in stock so would need to ship from another store. No other places I called locally had any idea where to buy anything close to a spring. How on earth do people make things these days?

I ended up going to Bunnings and buying 4 springs in shorter lengths that fit, but will likely order from China on eBay. Getting ridiculous finding one here for a $3 spring

Anyway, I decided to try a lighter trigger spring in the rifle. This is torsion style, and a safety pin ended up working great trimmed down to size. The trigger spring made more of a difference than I thought it would, but I'm going to test it all back together. I'll make a call then about the main spring
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