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Re: Meat prices

Post by on_one_wheel » 08 Oct 2021, 11:56 am

Communism_Is_Cancer wrote:The price of cattle is going through the roof and I don't see it dropping anytime soon as inflation soars.


Not just cattle, lambs just broke a record price of $331 each.
Exports are also up, its a great year for farming, both meat and grains. There'll be no shortage of shiny new tractors, harvesters and Toyota's in the field this year
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Re: Meat prices

Post by bah! » 08 Oct 2021, 12:39 pm

Die Judicii wrote:The "law" quite often contradicts itself,,,,,, depending on which government office various regulations come out of.

ie: Motorists are required by law to take joeys (after the mother has been killed by vehicle impact) to an Animal Welfare place to be cared for.

and,

ie: All "Does" must have the pouch checked after being shot (cull permits in Sth Aust) for joeys, and if present they must be destroyed."
(this was clearly stated on all cull permits I had in Sth Aust, and included specified methods of destruction)


They're different laws. One is for motorists, the other one is for pros harvesting and not really heaps hard to discern why they differ.

Zaine claims that either you're now allowed to, or shouldn't, shoot does with joeys and/or pros only shoot bucks and then like give up or something. Given the complex nature of roo reproduction, that would mean pretty much none of the year, given that they can have, and likely do have, joeys at more than one age present at once. Also, pretty sure peta has at least once had a screech about joeys being whacked on the head too, so that also happened.
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Re: Meat prices

Post by Noisydad » 08 Oct 2021, 2:37 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:
Communism_Is_Cancer wrote:The price of cattle is going through the roof and I don't see it dropping anytime soon as inflation soars.


Not just cattle, lambs just broke a record price of $331 each.
Exports are also up, its a great year for farming, both meat and grains. There'll be no shortage of shiny new tractors, harvesters and Toyota's in the field this year

As soon as cattle prices go up so the price of all farm inputs do to. It’s not possible to ever get ahead. Glad to be out of it.
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Re: Meat prices

Post by Die Judicii » 08 Oct 2021, 2:52 pm

bah! wrote:
Die Judicii wrote:The "law" quite often contradicts itself,,,,,, depending on which government office various regulations come out of.

ie: Motorists are required by law to take joeys (after the mother has been killed by vehicle impact) to an Animal Welfare place to be cared for.

and,

ie: All "Does" must have the pouch checked after being shot (cull permits in Sth Aust) for joeys, and if present they must be destroyed."
(this was clearly stated on all cull permits I had in Sth Aust, and included specified methods of destruction)


They're different laws. One is for motorists, the other one is for pros harvesting and not really heaps hard to discern why they differ.


That's more or less exactly what I said was it not.
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Re: Meat prices

Post by bigpete » 08 Oct 2021, 4:17 pm

animalpest wrote:Yes, I am very well aware of the kangaroo CoP. But nowhere does it state that females with joeys must not be shot.


Exactly
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Post by bah! » 08 Oct 2021, 5:34 pm

Die Judicii wrote:
That's more or less exactly what I said was it not.


Yes but it isn't a gotcha moment, it is quite sensible really.
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Re: Meat prices

Post by on_one_wheel » 09 Oct 2021, 4:14 am

The other "price" of farmed meat
No s#!t Sherlock? ... ground breaking!
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Re: Meat prices

Post by disco stu » 09 Oct 2021, 7:38 am

I wish I could say that was the case for me! I'm sure I've used much more fuel driving around looking for them. If we were allowed to hunt here I could be taking out animals without even driving anywhere
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Post by Oldbloke » 09 Oct 2021, 8:35 am

disco stu wrote:I wish I could say that was the case for me! I'm sure I've used much more fuel driving around looking for them. If we were allowed to hunt here I could be taking out animals without even driving anywhere


Lol. Same here. 30 minute drive each way yesterday. Come home empty handed. And clean missed the fox. :thumbsdown: :unknown:
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Re: Meat prices

Post by bah! » 09 Oct 2021, 8:56 am

Oldbloke wrote:
Lol. Same here. 30 minute drive each way yesterday. Come home empty handed. And clean missed the fox. :thumbsdown: :unknown:


I have about 100 roos in the paddock opposite but 30min drive to deer zone here, goats is more like 4 hours.
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Post by Oldbloke » 09 Oct 2021, 9:06 am

bah! wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:
Lol. Same here. 30 minute drive each way yesterday. Come home empty handed. And clean missed the fox. :thumbsdown: :unknown:


I have about 100 roos in the paddock opposite but 30min drive to deer zone here, goats is more like 4 hours.


For me. Deer 90 min drive. Goats & pigs 5-6hr

There are deer, goats and even pigs closer but not huntable numbers or in "no go zones"
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Re: Meat prices

Post by duncan61 » 09 Oct 2021, 10:21 am

ZaineB wrote:
bah! wrote:That is right, once you shoot the bucks out, you may as well shoot the does. Local guy shot 80 last season and of that only a dozen were bucks but he still got paid for the rest.


depends on the property and population, and youre not allowed to shoot does with joeys.


They all have a joey of some sort going on.I have pulled a joey out of a pouch that had seeds in its feet which means it has been feeding out the pouch.If it can hop off strong then I let it go.If it falls over I terminate.The same doe had a small joey still attached and several more on the way.
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Re: Meat prices

Post by NTSOG » 09 Oct 2021, 10:55 am

"The price of cattle is going through the roof and I don't see it dropping anytime soon as inflation soars."

The last lot of 9 month old Angus [weaner] steers we sold earned about $1350 [$3.85 per kilo] a couple of years ago. More recently prices for yearling steers have reached well over $5.00 per kilo live weight. We have a few more cows yet to calve. I'm hoping for bull calves - I have enough replacement heifers. I understand there has been keen competition by northern buyers needing replacement stock.

Regardless of the cause of the high prices I'm hoping the seller's market for stock out of the paddock holds for a few more months.

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Post by Die Judicii » 09 Oct 2021, 11:55 am

NTSOG wrote: I'm hoping for bull calves - I have enough replacement heifers. I understand there has been keen competition by northern buyers needing replacement stock.


This is the big issue,,,,, I had to sell all ours due to the drought and that was only just before it broke and the rains came and filled the dams etc.
If I coulda known at the time I would have stretched things and kept paying the ridiculous $$$ for hay.

But since then, the cost of starting out again and buying in breeding stock is prohibitive.
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Post by Die Judicii » 09 Oct 2021, 12:04 pm

Oldbloke wrote:
bah! wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:
Lol. Same here. 30 minute drive each way yesterday. Come home empty handed. And clean missed the fox. :thumbsdown: :unknown:


I have about 100 roos in the paddock opposite but 30min drive to deer zone here, goats is more like 4 hours.


For me. Deer 90 min drive. Goats & pigs 5-6hr

There are deer, goats and even pigs closer but not huntable numbers or in "no go zones"


In my case,,, (some of you blokes might turn green :mrgreen: )
I have zero travel restrictions unless I cross the border,,,
I only have 10 minutes drive to be amongst pigs, dogs, foxes, hares, the odd few rabbits, fallow, & ducks.
And,, when I'm chasing dogs I don't even have to pay for diesel.

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Re: Meat prices

Post by NTSOG » 09 Oct 2021, 2:47 pm

DJ: "... the cost of starting out again and buying in breeding stock is prohibitive."

I hadn't looked at the prices for yearling heifers before now as I knew that I wouldn't be buying any breeding stock. To my surprise yearling heifers at Mortlake [Vic.] sales on 27th September went for $5.08 per kilo. Grown heifers were pretty expensive too - up to $4.65 per kilo also at Mortlake, but well over $3.00 elsewhere - if any heifers were offered at all.

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Re: Meat prices

Post by Bill » 10 Oct 2021, 8:19 am

Die Judicii wrote:
NTSOG wrote: I'm hoping for bull calves - I have enough replacement heifers. I understand there has been keen competition by northern buyers needing replacement stock.


This is the big issue,,,,, I had to sell all ours due to the drought and that was only just before it broke and the rains came and filled the dams etc.
If I coulda known at the time I would have stretched things and kept paying the ridiculous $$$ for hay.

But since then, the cost of starting out again and buying in breeding stock is prohibitive.


I think farming might not be the caper for you sunshine, previously you were bragging allowing a Roo shooter to only cull Bucks " the Cream", and then you ran out of feed and were forced to sell the last of your breeding stock :crazy: :huh:
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Re: Meat prices

Post by Die Judicii » 10 Oct 2021, 11:48 am

Bill wrote:
Die Judicii wrote:
NTSOG wrote: I'm hoping for bull calves - I have enough replacement heifers. I understand there has been keen competition by northern buyers needing replacement stock.


This is the big issue,,,,, I had to sell all ours due to the drought and that was only just before it broke and the rains came and filled the dams etc.
If I coulda known at the time I would have stretched things and kept paying the ridiculous $$$ for hay.

But since then, the cost of starting out again and buying in breeding stock is prohibitive.


I think farming might not be the caper for you sunshine, previously you were bragging allowing a Roo shooter to only cull Bucks " the Cream", and then you ran out of feed and were forced to sell the last of your breeding stock :crazy: :huh:


You've got a very vivid and inaccurate imagination there.
I'd stick to the facts, (what I've actually said), and not some twisted version of what your mind thinks I said.
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Re: Meat prices

Post by Bill » 10 Oct 2021, 1:49 pm

:lol: you're supplying the facts but I'm happy to join the dots up
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Re: Meat prices

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Post by Oldbloke » 10 Oct 2021, 5:27 pm

I'm confused.
Sign says $42kg
On package $22
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Re: Meat prices

Post by on_one_wheel » 10 Oct 2021, 6:54 pm

Oldbloke wrote:I'm confused.
Sign says $42kg
On package $22


$33.89... 0.807 kg :thumbsup:
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Post by Oldbloke » 11 Oct 2021, 4:10 am

Nah, $22 kg.

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Re: Meat prices

Post by Downunder » 11 Oct 2021, 5:02 am

on_one_wheel wrote:The other "price" of farmed meat
No s#!t Sherlock? ... ground breaking!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/202 ... /100514570


“ABC’s environmental reporter“..... that’s about as equally stupid as listening to advice from GCA on gun control....
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Re: Meat prices

Post by Die Judicii » 11 Oct 2021, 7:59 am

Bill wrote::lol: you're supplying the facts but I'm happy to join the dots up


Why yes of course,,,,,,,,,,, you are so right. Never have truer words been spoken.

In the course of this topic discussion I have put certain facts out there.
And as you say,, "your happy to join the dots up".

Sadly,,, your responses demonstrate a clear lack of ability to accurately read and interpret those facts.

And, a bit like some journalists that also lack ability,,,, when you did not have enough understanding of what was at task,,, you resorted
to making up your own interpretations and inserting them.
Praps you ought to go back and read exactly what I said,,,,, and compare that to your concoctions.

Don't let the truth get in the way of a "good" story eh ?????
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Re: Meat prices

Post by on_one_wheel » 11 Oct 2021, 7:27 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Nah, $22 kg.

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I see now... perhaps loin chopps don't have the same demand as cutlets?
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Re: Meat prices

Post by Oldbloke » 11 Oct 2021, 7:45 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Nah, $22 kg.

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I see now... perhaps loin chopps don't have the same demand as cutlets?


Huge difference
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Re: Meat prices

Post by duncan61 » 11 Oct 2021, 7:56 pm

I have never bought cutlets but will buy forequarter chops as the are half the price and cook up good
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