The Defense of Australia.

[Oldbloke]

Rather than de-rail the WW111 thread thought I would start this.

I’m sure all here would agree our current defense forces are seriously lacking.

IMO we could start to improve it by the following.

1. Purchase or build about a 20 cans of sunshine. Deploy-able from land, sea and air.
2. Re invigorate the Army Reserve System and all participants store at home a rifle with 200 rounds and a couple of grenades.
3. Lease 3 or 4 nuke submarines ASAP.
4. Start building ships, fast. We are able to do this.
5. Increase ammo production/storage. ADI & NIOA can help with that.
5. Increase fuel storage in AU.
6. Buy more off the shelf aircraft.

Any improvements? Open to discussion.

P.S. It will be too late to start in 10 years. Perhaps even now.

[cz515]

Lol. Mate I have said this before. Australia is unique in that it's indefensible.

All the population centres around the edge of the continent. Ie 100km inland from any port and that city is occupied.

We also have a huge continent that is empty and baren. Nothing to defend nor nothing to conquer.

We also have a distance, a boat takes a couple of days to reach from Singapore/China. So lot of time to prepare.

But on the other hand all the above make it indefensible for any occupying forces to hold. The biggest they need to run supply lines spanning thousands of km of empty seas making their troops sitting ducks, worse if US navy move in a couple of subs the supply ships will be sinking left right and centre. An even huge loss of money and personnel for the occupying forces.

So in short, we can't do much and even if we do.. its not worth it.

[bigrich]

Rather than de-rail the WW111 thread thought I would start this.

I’m sure all here would agree our current defense forces are seriously lacking.

IMO we could start to improve it by the following.

1. Purchase or build about a 20 cans of sunshine. Deploy-able from land, sea and air.
2. Re invigorate the Army Reserve System and all participants store at home a rifle with 200 rounds and a couple of grenades.
3. Lease 3 or 4 nuke submarines ASAP.
4. Start building ships, fast. We are able to do this.
5. Increase ammo production/storage. ADI & NIOA can help with that.
5. Increase fuel storage in AU.
6. Buy more off the shelf aircraft.

Any improvements? Open to discussion.

P.S. It will be too late to start in 10 years. Perhaps even now.

i agree on all your points except the cans of sunshine . to use them would result in the end of everything . everything you advise is doable , but our leaders move too slow to keep up with crisis . leasing or buying current nuke subs should be the number one priority . as cz515 points out subs would create kaos through supply lines and the great distances of this nation would be to our advantage

[Oldbloke]

Rather than de-rail the WW111 thread thought I would start this.

I’m sure all here would agree our current defense forces are seriously lacking.

IMO we could start to improve it by the following.

1. Purchase or build about a 20 cans of sunshine. Deploy-able from land, sea and air.
2. Re invigorate the Army Reserve System and all participants store at home a rifle with 200 rounds and a couple of grenades.
3. Lease 3 or 4 nuke submarines ASAP.
4. Start building ships, fast. We are able to do this.
5. Increase ammo production/storage. ADI & NIOA can help with that.
5. Increase fuel storage in AU.
6. Buy more off the shelf aircraft.

Any improvements? Open to discussion.

P.S. It will be too late to start in 10 years. Perhaps even now.

i agree on all your points 1. except the cans of sunshine . to use them would result in the end of everything . everything you advise is doable , but our leaders move too slow to keep up with crisis . 2. leasing or buying current nuke subs should be the number one priority .

1. Sorry I disagree. They would be a strong deterrent. China, India, Pakistan, Israel, UK, US, France, Russia, Nth Korea all have them. Perhaps more. But agree that actually using of them is a crap idea.
2. Agree 100%. I just listed them as they popped in my head. never gave priority any thought.

[Blr243]

Sco mo just announced 65 million dollars of our tax to put a man on the moon. That’s ridiculous if we need money for war or to improve so many other current situation s ......putting a man on the moon is like me goin to cape York in October , totally unnecessary and just a bit of fun

[Oldbloke]

Sco mo just announced 65 million dollars of our tax to put a man on the moon. That’s ridiculous if we need money for war or to improve so many other current situation s ......putting a man on the moon is like me goin to cape York in October , totally unnecessary and just a bit of fun

Mate that belongs in the "Joke thread". You are joking, right?

[cz515]

Sco mo just announced 65 million dollars of our tax to put a man on the moon. That’s ridiculous if we need money for war or to improve so many other current situation s ......putting a man on the moon is like me goin to cape York in October , totally unnecessary and just a bit of fun

NASA spends billions of dollars every year and sent less then a handful of people to moon. Scomo comes out with a news bite we spending 65million. And people talk about it lolz

[cz515]

Rather than de-rail the WW111 thread thought I would start this.

I’m sure all here would agree our current defense forces are seriously lacking.

IMO we could start to improve it by the following.

1. Purchase or build about a 20 cans of sunshine. Deploy-able from land, sea and air.
2. Re invigorate the Army Reserve System and all participants store at home a rifle with 200 rounds and a couple of grenades.
3. Lease 3 or 4 nuke submarines ASAP.
4. Start building ships, fast. We are able to do this.
5. Increase ammo production/storage. ADI & NIOA can help with that.
5. Increase fuel storage in AU.
6. Buy more off the shelf aircraft.

Any improvements? Open to discussion.

P.S. It will be too late to start in 10 years. Perhaps even now.

i agree on all your points 1. except the cans of sunshine . to use them would result in the end of everything . everything you advise is doable , but our leaders move too slow to keep up with crisis . 2. leasing or buying current nuke subs should be the number one priority .

1. Sorry I disagree. They would be a strong deterrent. China, India, Pakistan, Israel, UK, US, France, Russia, Nth Korea all have them. Perhaps more. But agree that actually using of them is a crap idea.
2. Agree 100%. I just listed them as they popped in my head. never gave priority any thought.

Pakistan doesn't have nuclear subs. Man they have diesel electric ones.

North Korea have one test vessel that can fire a missle, not nuclear subs.

India has 3... but 80% of the population does not have a toilet or running water.

Wars are dumb. But keeps politicians in power and military generals with jobs and corruption

[disco stu]

I think he meant cans of nuclear sunshine for number 1

[on_one_wheel]

Sco mo just announced 65 million dollars of our tax to put a man on the moon. That’s ridiculous if we need money for war or to improve so many other current situation s ......putting a man on the moon is like me goin to cape York in October , totally unnecessary and just a bit of fun

Mate that belongs in the "Joke thread". You are joking, right?

Totally agree, spending money on visiting the moon is as ridiculous as blowing money on attempts to colonies a dead planet... Mars, it's a pointless waste of money , resources and environmentally irresponsible for no gain to the inhabitants of earth.

[Oldbloke]

OK. My preferred in aprox priority.

1. Lease 3 or 4 nuke submarines ASAP.

2. Purchase or build about a 20 cans of nuke sunshine. Deploy-able from land, sea and air.

3. Buy more off the shelf aircraft.

4. Increase ammo production/storage. ADI & NIOA can help with that.

5. Re invigorate the Army Reserve System and all participants store at home a rifle with 200 rounds and a couple of grenades.

6. Increase fuel storage in AU.

7. Start building ships, fast. We are able to do this.

My prefered order also considers getting a good result fast. But no reason why they can't all happen at same time. Just hurts the budget.

[Oldbloke]

Sco mo just announced 65 million dollars of our tax to put a man on the moon. That’s ridiculous if we need money for war or to improve so many other current situation s ......putting a man on the moon is like me goin to cape York in October , totally unnecessary and just a bit of fun

Mate that belongs in the "Joke thread". You are joking, right?

Totally agree, spending money on visiting the moon is as ridiculous as blowing money on attempts to colonies a dead planet... Mars, it's a pointless waste of money , resources and environmentally irresponsible for no gain to the inhabitants of earth.

Yep, could assemble a dozen cans for that much.

[jwai86]

What are these cans of sunshine that people are referring to?

[on_one_wheel]

Compulsory service in the military for young able bodied adults, even if it's as little as 1 year, It'll give them life skills, real training, work ethics and ensure we have plenty of troops.

[womble]

What are these cans of sunshine that people are referring to?

Nuclear bombs. Side effect is rather nasty sun burn.
You are going to peel. Like really really badly.

[cz515]

Compulsory service in the military for young able bodied adults, even if it's as little as 1 year, It'll give them life skills, real training, work ethics and ensure we have plenty of troops.

Australian military has said it plenty of times they are not a baby sitting service

[womble]

I would go nuclear just to piss of the greens. If for no other reason

[bladeracer]

Compulsory service in the military for young able bodied adults, even if it's as little as 1 year, It'll give them life skills, real training, work ethics and ensure we have plenty of troops.

Australian military has said it plenty of times they are not a baby sitting service

Which is why our entire military is probably smaller than Bunnings.

Ukraine is handing out AK's to the citizenry, can you imagine trying to do similar here, our people would be a liability, not an asset

[Blr243]

Aust government under the threat of invasion , returns finally the mini 14 taken from blr243 in 1996 .....yes please , and a crate of ammo too while u are at it.

[cz515]

Compulsory service in the military for young able bodied adults, even if it's as little as 1 year, It'll give them life skills, real training, work ethics and ensure we have plenty of troops.

Australian military has said it plenty of times they are not a baby sitting service

Which is why our entire military is probably smaller than Bunnings.

Ukraine is handing out AK's to the citizenry, can you imagine trying to do similar here, our people would be a liability, not an asset

[bigrich]

Sco mo just announced 65 million dollars of our tax to put a man on the moon. That’s ridiculous if we need money for war or to improve so many other current situation s ......putting a man on the moon is like me goin to cape York in October , totally unnecessary and just a bit of fun

ummm , that's just dumb to waste money on that

[bigrich]

I would go nuclear just to piss of the greens. If for no other reason

your a card womble

[on_one_wheel]

Which is why our entire military is probably smaller than Bunnings.

Extremely close... apparently Bunnings employ 48,000 people.
To bad we can't defend our nation by enlisting people armed with bar code scanners.

[bladeracer]

Which is why our entire military is probably smaller than Bunnings.

Extremely close... apparently Bunnings employ 48,000 people.
To bad we can't defend our nation by enlisting people armed with bar code scanners.

McDonalds employ 100,000, we could arm them all

[Bugman]

Which is why our entire military is probably smaller than Bunnings.

Extremely close... apparently Bunnings employ 48,000 people.
To bad we can't defend our nation by enlisting people armed with bar code scanners.

McDonalds employ 100,000, we could arm them all

Do you want fries with that?

[cz515]

Which is why our entire military is probably smaller than Bunnings.

Extremely close... apparently Bunnings employ 48,000 people.
To bad we can't defend our nation by enlisting people armed with bar code scanners.

McDonalds employ 100,000, we could arm them all

Do you want fries with that?

Yes all the youth of Australia better at flipping burgers then flipping bullets

[markg]

The only option we have is a significant offensive missile defense system. With that we could wreak havoc on enemy ships and planes. Sneaky subs would make life difficult for aggressors. Hypersonics are the future. Mandatory National Service for 2 yrs. Nuclear reactors to fuel subs. Make it law to reserve gas and oil supplies wholly for Australia. Reopen refineries that were stupidly closed. Get rid of weak Green leftist radicals and all the other PC Gender rubbish that has made western society weak.

[womble]

[womble]

If you find a cheaper kalashnikov anywhere else, Bunnings will beat it by 10%

[6mm Remington]

McDonalds employ 100,000, we could arm them all [/quote]

They are already trained to inflict .. DEATH FROM WITHIN