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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by Billo » 27 Aug 2022, 12:11 pm

almost certainly silenced by Putins thugs and a warning to her father and others who might be swaying in there support of him.
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by mchughcb » 27 Aug 2022, 1:43 pm

So she's a reporter that went to the front to report the Azov Battalion capture at Mariupol but they waited until she came back to blow her up in a car bomb?
That makes no sense what so ever.

What makes more sense is the Ukrainian secret service sent a spy to assassinate a soft target like her father and got the wrong person.

https://nypost.com/2022/08/22/russia-bl ... inian-spy/
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by Billo » 27 Aug 2022, 3:44 pm

FSB completes its investigation on only 36hrs LOL Chuck

Daria made a decision to drive her fathers car so she was unlikely to have been the target.

False Flag attack like this is routine for the FSB to drum up support for a more aggressive attack against Ukraine.

So in a nutshell this was most liekly Putin at work.
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by mchughcb » 27 Aug 2022, 5:42 pm

False flag for a more aggressive attack?
Lol okay. Sounds reasonable, what can we expect now, tactical nukes?
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by knivesinthenight » 27 Aug 2022, 10:21 pm

It's a little more simple than some make it.
Russia- nukes, and the fact they have to factor in he'll use them, if only in a limited way.
Russia's a bit player, has an economy the size of ours. But they could make good allies for the main player.
China is the heart of our next big gig. Be it by choice or because their economy forces their leaders to kick off things early due to civil unrest.
With no subs we're stuck to inshore patrolling, and god forbid they turn out to have designs on us, cause we're not going to be any Ukraine.
We underestimate the Chinese terribly. They plan way ahead of us. They have worked out solutions to hard problems.
Can't take on a US Carrier? Just make a missile big enough to cripple a carrier, that hits at 4000 kms an hour, and gets through because all the
carrier and escort ships missile defence systems are designed to take on subsonic weapons, not hypa-sonic.
Want to take Australia? Remind the world the current occupants invaded the country 230 years ago, have no legal legitimate right to the country, and they recognise our Indigenous population as the true owners of the country, and they want to help them get it back. What do they do with everyone else? Well they just happen to have large empty cities in China to re-home us all. So piss off United Nations, they did everything by the book.
Likely? Not really, but remotely possible.
Within 10 years they will equal the US and it's regional allies. We value every life, will pull back when we start losing people. They will lose thousands and all will be celebrated heros, no need to pull back when lives are not valued as we do.
I guess my point is, don't worry too much about Russia and the Ukraine, it's not the ignition point of the next big one. The scary thing is the pieces are nearly all in place for what's coming, and while likely not planned to happen for a few more years yet, their economy, leadership challenge, energy needs, Japan (do your research), or just wanting to take advantage of a distracted world could have us hoarding toilet rolls again sooner than we think. I read a book 20 years ago, fiction, that was about 70% on the money re where we are now. China knows it doesn't have to have more nukes than the US, they just need to know when to use 1, or 2. Outside of a full scale nuke war, the US and allies do not have the stomach for limited nuke exchanges for territories other than their own. Their electors would tell them to get out, get back and get us out of this, we're not going to lose thousands of Service People for a defacto Chinese province. My advise? Don't get your facts from Tictok, read history, understand why countries start wars, start to recognise the number of triggers beginning to shape that will trigger what's coming, and figure out how much you're ready to lose in trying to win for everything we take for granted.
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by mchughcb » 28 Aug 2022, 12:05 am

Looks like the extra airforce they brought up to the front line is being deployed.
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by knivesinthenight » 28 Aug 2022, 9:12 am

no all good, I'm not having a shot at anyone or any argument, and mine holds no extra water than anyone else''s (probably less). But if you can't share your dark concerns with someone such as people on this forum, for which I have some things in common, then where can I? Sorry cz515, have zero shots at you and sorry that I came across that way. On a happier note, hopefully at any time soon I'll be getting the call to pick up a a Taipan 2 from Cleavers. Will be happy to share first impressions all be it from a noob. Although am starting to question my preference of .223. The more I read the more I think I should move to something bigger (already got 308s so something in between). So anyway my previous comments were an info dump only, maybe more of a sanity check. Like many, I still don't get why someone within the walls of power in Russia hasn't organised the deed already. He must have the place very wrapped up.
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by Oldbloke » 28 Aug 2022, 10:21 am

"Although am starting to question my preference of .223"

Don't its grouse. Get a fast twist though. (8" or 9")

Later you can get something like a 243. Or if you reload develop a lighter 308 load. Say 130gr doing about 2800fps. But also have a 180gr load. :D
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by knivesinthenight » 28 Aug 2022, 12:01 pm

cheers, I've heard the 243 is great for a flat trajectory- probably one of my next buys in a year or 2.
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by mickb » 28 Aug 2022, 7:16 pm

This thread just entered a new level of strange :D
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by Oldbloke » 28 Aug 2022, 7:31 pm

Knivesinthenight

Here is a thread I started some time ago. A lot of info on DIY reloading. Also links to manuals and data. :)

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This thread just improved out of sight. Lol
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by knivesinthenight » 29 Aug 2022, 7:51 pm

cheers!
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by Lazarus » 30 Aug 2022, 11:15 am

mickb wrote:Lazarus I was going to edit my post out but you got to it first. I dont think we disagreed on many points but the couple we did turned into semantics. Bravo for pulling out first, you were the better man by a few minutes :) I'm retiring from politics on the forums, my tin foil hat is tight enough as it is these days.



I gave up on this subject because it was going in circles and getting me dizzy.

My last was a cheap shot, born of frustration and unworthy of inclusion.

You're right, we were arguing about semantics, never a good idea.

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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by Oldbloke » 30 Aug 2022, 11:46 am

Some bastard relieved me of my fav drop point folder 2 months ago.

I'm after a small reasonably priced replacement drop point folder.
Prefer 440c steel. Say 70mm to 90mm blade. RHC 58 - 60.

I've been looking casually. Price seems to jump a lot as soon as you look at the harder steels. Will consider non stainless.

Any ideas? :D
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by cz515 » 30 Aug 2022, 6:05 pm

You know if you don't post spam for a couple of days, the thread might leave the first 2 pages on the forum

Or better yet dont look or even open the thread.

Just a thought.
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by mchughcb » 31 Aug 2022, 8:01 am

Well the big counter offensive has started to drive the Russians out. Either Kherson or irpin.

Either way they said the hospitals are full of wounded UA and they are doing advertisements for blood donations. The losses of the UA is high as the Russians have followed up with air support.
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by mchughcb » 01 Sep 2022, 7:22 pm

Germans advise whilst Russia is losing in Ukraine they are capable of opening up another front in Europe.

I'm so confused.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/uk ... d8a7036c65

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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by perentie » 02 Sep 2022, 6:26 am

This report says Russia will be running low on guns and ammo by the end of the year.
https://theins.ru/en/politics/254573

This story tells the death by "Suicide" of another of Putins mob that dare criticise his war.
https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/15617299 ... um=desktop

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... raine-war/
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by mchughcb » 02 Sep 2022, 7:00 am

Well looks like the commando attempt to take over the nuclear power station while the IAA inspectors were there ended in a complete disaster.

It also turns out now peace deal was almost signed in February, then Boris visited Kiev and 3 days later negotiations stopped.
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by cz515 » 02 Sep 2022, 10:16 pm

Not the first time a Brit politician has gone for war with made up sheet
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by mchughcb » 03 Sep 2022, 12:35 pm

Well it looks like the major counter offensive has come to a grinding halt. The Russians have bought in the bombers and dropped 500kg bombs and just wiping out whole battalions in the open steppe country.
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by Lazarus » 03 Sep 2022, 2:22 pm

Russians are a clumsy lot.
Yet another has "fallen" out a window :allegedly:

The Little Dick-tator now seems to prefer defenestration over his usual Borgia tactics.

https://www.newsweek.com/russians-keep- ... hs-1738954
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by Oldbloke » 03 Sep 2022, 3:44 pm

Lazarus wrote:Russians are a clumsy lot.
Yet another has "fallen" out a window :allegedly:

The Little Dick-tator now seems to prefer defenestration over his usual Borgia tactics.

https://www.newsweek.com/russians-keep- ... hs-1738954


Comminists/dictatorship, what else would you expect.
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by Oldbloke » 03 Sep 2022, 3:49 pm

mchughcb wrote:Well it looks like the major counter offensive has come to a grinding halt. The Russians have bought in the bombers and dropped 500kg bombs and just wiping out whole battalions in the open steppe country.


Thet would be a shame. They have been using 500lb bombs for some time.

So where did that info come from?
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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by Lazarus » 03 Sep 2022, 4:36 pm

Oldbloke wrote:
mchughcb wrote:Well it looks like the major counter offensive has come to a grinding halt. The Russians have bought in the bombers and dropped 500kg bombs and just wiping out whole battalions in the open steppe country.


Thet would be a shame. They have been using 500lb bombs for some time.

So where did that info come from?


Same place all Russian apologists get their propaganda OB.
Straight from Mother Russia.
They don't believe the media, they don't believe allied intelligence agencies, they don't believe what others say, but never answer when questioned on the source of their nonsense.

Always bear the following in mind when dealing with such:

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Re: When is,,, "enough is enough"

Post by Blackened » 03 Sep 2022, 6:06 pm

Too much rubbish and pointless arguments needing to be deleted from this topic now.

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