womble wrote:I think when you are willing to believe Ukraine is shelling its own power station then you have zero resistance to bulls**t.
mchughcb wrote:Things are getting desperate now. The UA is shelling that powerstation non stop. Their claim is the Russians have artillery in there. Maybe they do, maybe it's just guards on a nuclear facility as you do. Ironically the UA is firing their artillery from a city across the river.
The typical western claim a few months ago that the Russians were so stupid they were shelling Chernobyl and other plants. Then you find they were shooting at UA hiding in the out houses. Now the UA is shelling its, oh we need to get the Atomic Agency in there to oversee things. Or is that because the Russians turned off the grid connector to Kiev and Zelensky is on backup power? If this was a US war there would be no power, gas , water or communications.
The BS never stops.
Oldbloke wrote:mchughcb wrote:Things are getting desperate now. The UA is shelling that powerstation non stop. Their claim is the Russians have artillery in there. Maybe they do, maybe it's just guards on a nuclear facility as you do. Ironically the UA is firing their artillery from a city across the river.
The typical western claim a few months ago that the Russians were so stupid they were shelling Chernobyl and other plants. Then you find they were shooting at UA hiding in the out houses. Now the UA is shelling its, oh we need to get the Atomic Agency in there to oversee things. Or is that because the Russians turned off the grid connector to Kiev and Zelensky is on backup power? If this was a US war there would be no power, gas , water or communications.
The BS never stops.
And many of the posts here are perfect examples of just that.
https://youtu.be/1f0SrVOM-7I
Billo wrote:The mighty Russian Anti Air defence system.....
https://mobile.twitter.com/walter_repor ... 7714665474
And just for you Chucky, just a quick recap of the Russian invasion
https://mobile.twitter.com/ukraine_worl ... 9391082496
mchughcb wrote:Billo wrote:The mighty Russian Anti Air defence system.....
https://mobile.twitter.com/walter_repor ... 7714665474
And just for you Chucky, just a quick recap of the Russian invasion
https://mobile.twitter.com/ukraine_worl ... 9391082496
The first one is a decoy, every army uses them so the enemy wastes time and money trying to bomb them based on satelite photos.
With regards to the second post, I hope the $US58B that's been poured in is worth it. It has slowed by not stopped the advance west.
mchughcb wrote:Half a trillion in 6 months? Maybe.damage to EU economy more.
womble wrote:Ukraine are the toughest people the world has witnessed since the 300 Spartans. Despite all the horror and atrocity that Russia has dealt them, you have to respect them.
mchughcb wrote:womble wrote:I think when you are willing to believe Ukraine is shelling its own power station then you have zero resistance to bulls**t.
But its not their powerstation anymore is it.
Billo wrote:I suspect the damage done to the Russian economy is 10 x your quoted $58 Billion
womble wrote:mchughcb wrote:Yeah not too bad. Not going to make one iota of difference to the outcome.
They’ve lost 24 su-35’s now.
It’s pretty significant.
Russia has maybe 40 -50 in service. ( did have )
Not to mention your top gun pilots.
Air power over the battlefield makes a big difference.
Can’t even buy shot down su-35 keychains yet. Only the older su-34’s
cz515 wrote:mchughcb wrote:womble wrote:I think when you are willing to believe Ukraine is shelling its own power station then you have zero resistance to bulls**t.
But its not their powerstation anymore is it.
Seriously womble, that's actually coming from msm. Not your YouTube videos with 2 views
Lazarus wrote:womble wrote:Ukraine are the toughest people the world has witnessed since the 300 Spartans. Despite all the horror and atrocity that Russia has dealt them, you have to respect them.
I totally agree Womble, trouble is some people, or chatbots as I'm strating to suspect is the case, have no respect for anything or anyone. They have fairly simplistic algorithms so when you offer them logical questions beyond the scope of that algorithm, they either repeat past output or just don't respond.
The thing with chatbots, if you starve them of responses they reveal themselves by going round in a circle of repetition. As above.
womble wrote:mchughcb wrote: A tale for the ages, that will officially end the age of imperialism and prove that world peace is not an elusive goal when the world works together.
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Lazarus wrote:Good point mickb.
A problem arises though when people blur the line between "free speach" and propagandist sh!t stirring, just to get a rise out of other people.
Calling out that sort of behaviour is not suppression of free speach, it's the exercise of it.
I do find it amusing though, that most of the noise comes from those who claim not to be "duped" by the media or governments, yet refuse to answer where they actually get the stuff they do purportedly believe.
If not main strean media or governments or intelligence services, where?
My guess, the chans, and by that I don't mean the Chinese.
mickb wrote:So if I reply mate am I chatbotting you or are you chatbotting me
Lazarus wrote:Good point mickb.
A problem arises though when people blur the line between "free speach" and propagandist sh!t stirring, just to get a rise out of other people.
Calling out that sort of behaviour is not suppression of free speach, it's the exercise of it.
I do find it amusing though, that most of the noise comes from those who claim not to be "duped" by the media or governments, yet refuse to answer where they actually get the stuff they do purportedly believe.
If not main strean media or governments or intelligence services, where?
My guess, the chans, and by that I don't mean the Chinese.
Lazarus wrote:Good point mickb.
A problem arises though when people blur the line between "free speach" and propagandist sh!t stirring, just to get a rise out of other people.
Calling out that sort of behaviour is not suppression of free speach, it's the exercise of it.
I do find it amusing though, that most of the noise comes from those who claim not to be "duped" by the media or governments, yet refuse to answer where they actually get the stuff they do purportedly believe.
If not main strean media or governments or intelligence services, where?
My guess, the chans, and by that I don't mean the Chinese.