Billo wrote:mchughcb wrote:Oldbloke wrote:It's pretty sad really that there are people around who take delight in watching this war. No empathy or concern for the injuries and deaths of innocents.
All the excuses & propaganda under the sun does not make the Russian invasion of Ukraine right. They are regularly attacking non-military targets killing women and children. Mass graves are proof of atrocities the Russians are committing.
As I've said before, Russia will likely win. But pootin will be remembered throughout history in the same vane as Hitler. Just a mass murderer. Certainly not the hero he thinks he is.
It's sad some care so little for their fellow man.
If putin is considered a mass murderer what do you consider Blair, Howard and Bush in Iraq and Afghanistan? Give me a break on your infantile ramblings.
If those are your facts you bring to this argument then pack up and go home, Putin is clearly a deranged psycopath. Does Russia win anything from this invasion ? Im yet to see it, they've thrown the Kitchen sink at the Kyiv and Zelensky but have retreated back to Crimea, the whole thing is a cluster pharrkk and the EU has been on the decline for 20 years so hyper energy driven inflation just gives Asia more of a leg up. I'm not sure Chuck why you think anything good will come from this extended Invasion that is likely to run up until Putins death in the next few years, Karma's a biatch
As far as clusterfucks go, nothing tops Iraq or Afghan. Paying Saddam to fight Iran, invading him, then leaving him in power... while still bombing him the next ten years until he gets re-invaded again. That war made as much sense as the average LSD trip.
In Afghanistan NATO invaded to fight terrorists, found the fighting too hard, started negotiating with the terrorists, and couldnt even manage their own withdrawal properly. As well as a few million people now classed as " Nato collaboraters"( aka the ones who sided with us) being rounded up and killed as traitors..
if you want a full list of Pyschos, try the US arms client lists. They outsell the next 5 countries combined in global arm sales( Russia, Uk, france, china etc), more than 105 countries and 50% of them are human rights abusers.
I guess its bad to be a pyscho invading dictator but supplying 50 other nutters with bullets is the sign of complete sanity and great morals.
