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Post by Die Judicii » 19 Apr 2022, 9:02 pm

Enough is Enough,,,,,,,
When is the majority of the worlds population/countries (regardless of whether being NATO members or not),,,, gonna stand up to Putin and
simply say, F#ck off out of the Ukraine,,,, Get back into your own pigsty,,,,, Mind your own business,,,,,, and stay behind the f#cking boundary fence.

It's pretty obvious that even if the Ukraine house's neo nazis "as Putin claims",,,,, they haven't made any moves against Putin.
I'm sure we all would have heard about it before now if such had happened.

The writing is on the wall as per,,,, Nostradamus,, and God knows how many other prophets,, Political forecasts,, War experts,, Bible, etc etc, that
we are in for WW3 anyway.

Putin has demonstrated throughout this Ukraine "special exercise" just how disorganized, pathetic, and LOW low he can stoop,,,,,,,, regardless of
whether he is fully informed or not.

The rest of the world seems to be pretty well f#cked by politicians, greens, greenhouse gases, and mining companies as things stand,,,,,,,,,,,
So bring it on I say,,,,,,,,, Bring it on.

So OK,,,,,, I may be living in a dream,,,,,, smoking some strange sh!t,,,,,,,,,,,,, whatever,,,,, but why can't the vast majority of the world simply,,,,,

Get rid of this Prick.

It is so frustrating not being able to say so to the bastard face to face.

The rest of the world needs to grow a much bigger set of balls.
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Post by Oldbloke » 19 Apr 2022, 10:20 pm

I agree, the bully needs a good punch in the nose. Not keen on a ww3, that would be a disaster, big time.

Russia is clearly bombing non-military targets and their behaviour has been appalling.

I say give Ukrain heaps of heavy artillery, drones and long range missiles even aircraft to hit Russian military targets & cities. Including the Kremlin. Make them pay.

Then one of pootins mates will finish the war with just 1 bullet.
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Post by mchughcb » 19 Apr 2022, 11:50 pm

Here is a guy, who was captured and requested to be interviewed by the guys asking the questions. It's not an interview you are going to see on the media and he's down playing his role because as a merc, he can be executed.

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Post by No1Mk3 » 19 Apr 2022, 11:54 pm

Absolutely don't agree, in 1962 the West threatened atomic war if USSR put missiles in Cuba, and for years Russia has told former Soviets not to host medium range tacticals on their territory. Zhelensky knew this, but went ahead with plans to do so anyway. Ukraine gets what it asks for. By the way, Donbas is Russian, always was, still is, always will be. Only ended up under Kiev because of Stalin. They speak only Russian in Donbas. F**k Ukraine, until they agree to not host missiles pointed at Russia Putin should hammer them. And Kiev should respect the people of Donbas who 98% voted to leave Ukraine.
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Post by mchughcb » 19 Apr 2022, 11:57 pm

Die Judicii wrote:Enough is Enough,,,,,,,
When is the majority of the worlds population/countries (regardless of whether being NATO members or not),,,, gonna stand up to Putin and
simply say, F#ck off out of the Ukraine,,,, Get back into your own pigsty,,,,, Mind your own business,,,,,, and stay behind the f#cking boundary fence.

It's pretty obvious that even if the Ukraine house's neo nazis "as Putin claims",,,,, they haven't made any moves against Putin.
I'm sure we all would have heard about it before now if such had happened.

The writing is on the wall as per,,,, Nostradamus,, and God knows how many other prophets,, Political forecasts,, War experts,, Bible, etc etc, that
we are in for WW3 anyway.

Putin has demonstrated throughout this Ukraine "special exercise" just how disorganized, pathetic, and LOW low he can stoop,,,,,,,, regardless of
whether he is fully informed or not.

The rest of the world seems to be pretty well f#cked by politicians, greens, greenhouse gases, and mining companies as things stand,,,,,,,,,,,
So bring it on I say,,,,,,,,, Bring it on.

So OK,,,,,, I may be living in a dream,,,,,, smoking some strange sh!t,,,,,,,,,,,,, whatever,,,,, but why can't the vast majority of the world simply,,,,,

Get rid of this Prick.

It is so frustrating not being able to say so to the bastard face to face.

The rest of the world needs to grow a much bigger set of balls.

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Post by mchughcb » 20 Apr 2022, 12:01 am

Americans called about 2 million deaths in Vietnam. Caused about 600,000 deaths in Iraq. Australia was party to that and we had nothing to do with either country, let alone Afghanistan.

For a major land battle of conventional war, the civilian deaths to military ratios are extremely low compared to the USA.
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Post by mchughcb » 20 Apr 2022, 12:13 am

No1Mk3 wrote:Absolutely don't agree, in 1962 the West threatened atomic war if USSR put missiles in Cuba, and for years Russia has told former Soviets not to host medium range tacticals on their territory. Zhelensky knew this, but went ahead with plans to do so anyway. Ukraine gets what it asks for. By the way, Donbas is Russian, always was, still is, always will be. Only ended up under Kiev because of Stalin. They speak only Russian in Donbas. F**k Ukraine, until they agree to not host missiles pointed at Russia Putin should hammer them. And Kiev should respect the people of Donbas who 98% voted to leave Ukraine.


The last guy that handed out rifles to 16 year olds in the street rather than surrender before the country was destroyed was pulled out of his bunker by the Russians. The Donbass and Mariupol had their referendum and was ignored by Kiev. They have sacrificed the city for what. Already 1400 marines surrendered but the rest will fight to death. What is the point? They will either starve, be gassed, bombed or drowned. The Russians won't risk one soldier now. They could have walked out with the other marines. Now they say there are 1000 civilians, families of the soldiers. If you want to end it all, why not let the women and children go for chrissakes
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Post by mchughcb » 20 Apr 2022, 12:20 am

Oldbloke wrote:I agree, the bully needs a good punch in the nose. Not keen on a ww3, that would be a disaster, big time.

Russia is clearly bombing non-military targets and their behaviour has been appalling.

I say give Ukrain heaps of heavy artillery, drones and long range missiles even aircraft to hit Russian military targets & cities. Including the Kremlin. Make them pay.

Then one of pootins mates will finish the war with just 1 bullet.


You off the medication again? You think the Russians won't nuke the Kiev if the Kremlin is attacked by missiles or fighter bombers?

The Americans spent a trillion dollars bombing Afghanistan because a goat herder crashed a plane into the pentagon.
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Post by deye243 » 20 Apr 2022, 12:23 am

AFAIC a 3rd world war is exactly what the western world needs as it has become a sespit of weakness.
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Post by mchughcb » 20 Apr 2022, 12:44 am

https://www.defensenews.com/global/euro ... it-moscow/

450km from Ukraine to Moscow. 4 min for ICBM at 7km/s. They were extending range of cruise missiles past 300km and my guess is they poked bear.
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Post by Oldbloke » 20 Apr 2022, 5:21 am

mchughcb wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:I agree, the bully needs a good punch in the nose. Not keen on a ww3, that would be a disaster, big time.

Russia is clearly bombing non-military targets and their behaviour has been appalling.

I say give Ukrain heaps of heavy artillery, drones and long range missiles even aircraft to hit Russian military targets & cities. Including the Kremlin. Make them pay.

Then one of pootins mates will finish the war with just 1 bullet.


You off the medication again? You think the Russians won't nuke the Kiev if the Kremlin is attacked by missiles or fighter bombers?

The Americans spent a trillion dollars bombing Afghanistan because a goat herder crashed a plane into the pentagon.


Never been on any. But I see your still taking your medication daily.

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Post by Oldbloke » 20 Apr 2022, 5:41 am

mchughcb wrote:
No1Mk3 wrote:Absolutely don't agree, in 1962 the West threatened atomic war if USSR put missiles in Cuba, and for years Russia has told former Soviets not to host medium range tacticals on their territory. Zhelensky knew this, but went ahead with plans to do so anyway. Ukraine gets what it asks for. By the way, Donbas is Russian, always was, still is, always will be. Only ended up under Kiev because of Stalin. They speak only Russian in Donbas. F**k Ukraine, until they agree to not host missiles pointed at Russia Putin should hammer them. And Kiev should respect the people of Donbas who 98% voted to leave Ukraine.


The last guy that handed out rifles to 16 year olds in the street rather than surrender before the country was destroyed was pulled out of his bunker by the Russians. The Donbass and Mariupol had their referendum and was ignored by Kiev. They have sacrificed the city for what. Already 1400 marines surrendered but the rest will fight to death. What is the point? They will either starve, be gassed, bombed or drowned. The Russians won't risk one soldier now. They could have walked out with the other marines. Now they say there are 1000 civilians, families of the soldiers. If you want to end it all, why not let the women and children go for chrissakes


I see you back on medication.

Everytime there has been an agreed evacuation the Russians have bombed the area killing women and children. Your heroes. Yeh.
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Post by Oldbloke » 20 Apr 2022, 6:01 am

No1Mk3 wrote:Absolutely don't agree, in 1962 the West threatened atomic war if USSR put missiles in Cuba, and for years Russia has told former Soviets not to host medium range tacticals on their territory. Zhelensky knew this, but went ahead with plans to do so anyway. Ukraine gets what it asks for. By the way, Donbas is Russian, always was, still is, always will be. Only ended up under Kiev because of Stalin. They speak only Russian in Donbas. F**k Ukraine, until they agree to not host missiles pointed at Russia Putin should hammer them. And Kiev should respect the people of Donbas who 98% voted to leave Ukraine.


You forget the Gorbachev agreed to allow Ukraine to become a separate country. (1991) Once that happens just expect that they are not happy if someone comes along 30 or so years later and wants to take over. And also just expect thet they will make their own decisions.
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Post by Oldbloke » 20 Apr 2022, 6:20 am

Yeh, I know. The Russians are the good guys, riiigghht.

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Post by Oldbloke » 20 Apr 2022, 6:24 am

mchughcb wrote:
No1Mk3 wrote:Absolutely don't agree, in 1962 the West threatened atomic war if USSR put missiles in Cuba, and for years Russia has told former Soviets not to host medium range tacticals on their territory. Zhelensky knew this, but went ahead with plans to do so anyway. Ukraine gets what it asks for. By the way, Donbas is Russian, always was, still is, always will be. Only ended up under Kiev because of Stalin. They speak only Russian in Donbas. F**k Ukraine, until they agree to not host missiles pointed at Russia Putin should hammer them. And Kiev should respect the people of Donbas who 98% voted to leave Ukraine.


The last guy that handed out rifles to 16 year olds in the street rather than surrender before the country was destroyed was pulled out of his bunker by the Russians. The Donbass and Mariupol had their referendum and was ignored by Kiev. They have sacrificed the city for what. Already 1400 marines surrendered but the rest will fight to death. What is the point? They will either starve, be gassed, bombed or drowned. The Russians won't risk one soldier now. They could have walked out with the other marines. Now they say there are 1000 civilians, families of the soldiers. If you want to end it all, why not let the women and children go for chrissakes


Well, all the reports actually say 1000. Well if that's the case it's good for the environment. The bulldozers used less fuel digging the mass grave.
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Post by mchughcb » 20 Apr 2022, 7:20 am

Oldbloke wrote:
mchughcb wrote:
No1Mk3 wrote:Absolutely don't agree, in 1962 the West threatened atomic war if USSR put missiles in Cuba, and for years Russia has told former Soviets not to host medium range tacticals on their territory. Zhelensky knew this, but went ahead with plans to do so anyway. Ukraine gets what it asks for. By the way, Donbas is Russian, always was, still is, always will be. Only ended up under Kiev because of Stalin. They speak only Russian in Donbas. F**k Ukraine, until they agree to not host missiles pointed at Russia Putin should hammer them. And Kiev should respect the people of Donbas who 98% voted to leave Ukraine.


The last guy that handed out rifles to 16 year olds in the street rather than surrender before the country was destroyed was pulled out of his bunker by the Russians. The Donbass and Mariupol had their referendum and was ignored by Kiev. They have sacrificed the city for what. Already 1400 marines surrendered but the rest will fight to death. What is the point? They will either starve, be gassed, bombed or drowned. The Russians won't risk one soldier now. They could have walked out with the other marines. Now they say there are 1000 civilians, families of the soldiers. If you want to end it all, why not let the women and children go for chrissakes


I see you back on medication.

Everytime there has been an agreed evacuation the Russians have bombed the area killing women and children. Your heroes. Yeh.



"According to those official statistics, up to 140,000 people left the city before it was surrounded, and around 150,000 managed to leave during the blockade. Ukrainian officials claim 30,000 people from Mariupol were deported to Russia."

So according to some random CNN article 140k left under Ukrainian control and 180k left under Russian control. Given the fields are mud and the Russians control every road access into the city the evacuation corridors or cars and buses worked.

However if you were trying to bypass the corridor several times by military helicopter from the steel plant you got shot down. I wonder why.
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Post by mchughcb » 20 Apr 2022, 7:31 am

1000+ marines surrendered in one go but total has been over 1400 so either they are marines or Azov as they the ones deployed there.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/1 ... -surrender
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Post by Wm.Traynor » 20 Apr 2022, 8:59 am

mchughcb wrote:
Die Judicii wrote: Watch this and you may find it's not as black and white as you think.

https://youtu.be/pKcmNGvaDUs



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Post by Oldbloke » 20 Apr 2022, 9:00 am

"Konashenkov (russian) said 1,464 Ukrainian servicemen have already surrendered “in the course of liberation of Mariupol”."

"In the town of Mariupol, near the Ilyich Iron and Steel Works, as a result of successful offensives by Russian armed forces and Donetsk People's Republic militia units, 1,026 Ukrainian soldiers of the 36th Marine Brigade voluntarily laid down arms and surrendered," the Russian defence ministry said in a statement."

Mmm, I guess 1026 could become 1464.

No matter, we will never know the real numbers.

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Post by Oldbloke » 20 Apr 2022, 7:52 pm

Apparently about 90% of Russiana are against the war.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/2 ... in-ukraine
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Post by mchughcb » 20 Apr 2022, 9:51 pm

“He is not a Tinkoff employee, has not been in Russia for a long time and has been dealing with health issues in recent years,” the statement added.

Another oligarch living abroad with health issues still believes he speaks for the nation.

When Gina or Twiggy or Clive or James speaks to the press in Australia they speak for 90% of Australians too. Bwwwwahhha.
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Post by cz515 » 21 Apr 2022, 12:32 am

Come on both of you.

What I find funny is how we hate on one country when another has been doing exactly the same for the last 20... 70 years. Where were the bleeding hearts when America attacked.
Vietnam
Iraq - no WMD were ever there, and they knew it.
Cuba/Mexico
Japan - we need to drop nuclear bombs to teach them a lesson
Syria - and ISIS funny how Isis never existed before Saddam.
Afghanistan - well the CIA says, it was Osama Bin Laden, but OBL was found in pakistan.... ahh fk it let's kill them anyway

OB and Co will just clap their hands and say America is great
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Post by cz515 » 21 Apr 2022, 12:34 am

Oldbloke wrote:Apparently about 90% of Russiana are against the war.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/2 ... in-ukraine


I saw a report today, they did a poll and 100% of enough gun members thought OB needs to stop watching ABC abs western media (it was only one.... but you get the idea)
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Post by Oldbloke » 21 Apr 2022, 2:24 am

Forgive me CZ, the Russians are obviously honourable heroes fighting to protect their freedom.

https://kyivindependent.com/national/ru ... near-kyiv/

Give those soldiers a medal.

Give these a medal too. Gave the people a Christian burial.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-young-bo ... 41950.html

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Post by MtnMan » 21 Apr 2022, 6:32 am

cz515 wrote:Come on both of you.

What I find funny is how we hate on one country when another has been doing exactly the same for the last 20... 70 years. Where were the bleeding hearts when America attacked.
Vietnam
Iraq - no WMD were ever there, and they knew it.
Cuba/Mexico
Japan - we need to drop nuclear bombs to teach them a lesson
Syria - and ISIS funny how Isis never existed before Saddam.
Afghanistan - well the CIA says, it was Osama Bin Laden, but OBL was found in pakistan.... ahh fk it let's kill them anyway

OB and Co will just clap their hands and say America is great


You forgot the Benghazi thing in Libya. You know, when Gaddafi wanted to create an African gold backed currency and trade his oil with it. USA promptly 'democracied' the $hit out of him (murdered).
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Post by straightshooter » 21 Apr 2022, 7:17 am

Some may be interested in a more comprehensive list...

List of countries subjected to US kinetic hostility since WW2:
China 1945-46
Korea 1950-53
China 1950-53
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-60
Guatemala 1960
Belgian Congo 1964
Guatemala 1964
Dominican Republic 1965-66
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Lebanon 1982-84
Grenada 1983-84
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1981-92
Nicaragua 1981-90
Iran 1987-88
Libya 1989
Panama 1989-90
Iraq 1991
Kuwait 1991
Somalia 1992-94
Bosnia 1995
Iran 1998
Sudan 1998
Afghanistan 1998
Yugoslavia – Serbia 1999
Afghanistan 2001
Libya 2011
Iraq and Syria 2014 –
Somalia 2011 –
Iran 2020 –
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Post by mchughcb » 21 Apr 2022, 8:25 am

MtnMan wrote:
cz515 wrote:Come on both of you.

What I find funny is how we hate on one country when another has been doing exactly the same for the last 20... 70 years. Where were the bleeding hearts when America attacked.
Vietnam
Iraq - no WMD were ever there, and they knew it.
Cuba/Mexico
Japan - we need to drop nuclear bombs to teach them a lesson
Syria - and ISIS funny how Isis never existed before Saddam.
Afghanistan - well the CIA says, it was Osama Bin Laden, but OBL was found in pakistan.... ahh fk it let's kill them anyway

OB and Co will just clap their hands and say America is great


You forgot the Benghazi thing in Libya. You know, when Gaddafi wanted to create an African gold backed currency and trade his oil with it. USA promptly 'democracied' the $hit out of him (murdered).


Yep and turned Libya into a hellhole. First time in centuries you can buy slaves from central africa at an open market at Libya.
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Post by cz515 » 21 Apr 2022, 8:50 am

Thanks guys. You have proved my point.

Never have I said Russia or Putin are saints. So OB stop putting words in my mouth.

The point is clear as mud. When America does it, you clap and shout for joy for the Americans are bringing liberation and peace to the people. When someone else does it, the media and people sipping the cool aid go and beat their charts telling others how evil they are. When it's the cool aid crowd.

I never supported war on Iraq, Afghanistan... well everything in the middle east. And I don't want my hard wasn't money that I pay in tax being spent on prolonging war in Ukraine. Tbh I rather they give it to the dole bludgers
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Post by womble » 21 Apr 2022, 9:21 am

Except that not once in this thread or the previous one has anyone posted any support for previous American conflicts.
Possibly because they have no relevance or connection to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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Post by mchughcb » 21 Apr 2022, 9:39 am

Second post , some self described idiot is saying someone should give Ukraine ordinance to hit Moscow. Well only one country is capable of that, the same one that just sent a couple of billion to them. So I guess some self described idiot really wants the USA to start WW3.
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