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Australia to provide powder for 155mm artillery shells

Post by Jackaroo » 31 Jan 2023, 8:57 am

Australia to provide powder for 155mm artillery shells going to Ukraine

French Defence Minister Sebastien Lecornu said France and Australia had agreed to cooperate to make "several thousands" of 155-millimeter shells to help Ukraine, which he hoped could start being delivered in the first quarter of this year.

Lecornu was speaking after meeting his Australian counterpart Richard Marles, the first joint high-level talks since the submarine row erupted. Australia will supply the powder while France's Nexter will make the ammunition.


I think that will put powder for Aussie consumers on the back burner :(
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Post by bigrich » 31 Jan 2023, 9:12 am

Jackaroo wrote:Australia to provide powder for 155mm artillery shells going to Ukraine

French Defence Minister Sebastien Lecornu said France and Australia had agreed to cooperate to make "several thousands" of 155-millimeter shells to help Ukraine, which he hoped could start being delivered in the first quarter of this year.

Lecornu was speaking after meeting his Australian counterpart Richard Marles, the first joint high-level talks since the submarine row erupted. Australia will supply the powder while France's Nexter will make the ammunition.


I think that will put powder for Aussie consumers on the back burner :(


Unfortunately I think you might be right :?
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Post by flashman » 31 Jan 2023, 9:18 am

What powder goes into a artillery shells…. :unknown:
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Post by Jackaroo » 31 Jan 2023, 10:33 am

flashman wrote:What powder goes into a artillery shells…. :unknown:


Doesn't really matter if that's where all their efforts are going to be directed at making.
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Post by Oldbloke » 31 Jan 2023, 11:22 am

I have a suspicion they don't use gunpowder as we know it.
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Post by Lazarus » 31 Jan 2023, 12:17 pm

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Post by Jackaroo » 31 Jan 2023, 1:22 pm

Lazarus wrote:https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/155-prop.htm#:~:text=M203A1%20Propellant%20Also%20a%20single,and%201%2D%20ounce%20of%20CBI.



" entire M3A1 propellant contains approximately 5.5 pounds of single perforated neutral burning powder"

Hope it ain't Trail Boss :(
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Post by bladeracer » 31 Jan 2023, 2:59 pm

Jackaroo wrote:
Lazarus wrote:https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/155-prop.htm#:~:text=M203A1%20Propellant%20Also%20a%20single,and%201%2D%20ounce%20of%20CBI.



" entire M3A1 propellant contains approximately 5.5 pounds of single perforated neutral burning powder"

Hope it ain't Trail Boss :(


I did read an article a few years ago that claimed they used TB as an initiator to detonate the main charge.
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Post by on_one_wheel » 31 Jan 2023, 6:06 pm

I wonder if their coming out of the new QLD artillery plant?

Planning and approval

https://www.australiandefence.com.au/ne ... hell-plant

Construction begins

https://asiapacificdefencereporter.com/ ... ing-plant/

First shells produced ..

https://www.australiandefence.com.au/de ... -australia

It looks like they might have developed a powder plant of their own in Germany... could be wrong, but a few leads on the net seem to point that way.

I'd bet that the amount of propellant required to fill bulk quantities of115mm shells would be beyond ADI's capability :unknown:
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Post by Noisydad » 31 Jan 2023, 7:35 pm

flashman wrote:What powder goes into a artillery shells…. :unknown:

In shells of that size (and bigger) an amount black powder is used to guarantee the ignition of the main charge as it’s easier to get to ignite.
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Post by Oldbloke » 31 Jan 2023, 8:19 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:I wonder if their coming out of the new QLD artillery plant?


You might be onto something there.

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Post by mchughcb » 01 Feb 2023, 6:58 pm

Several thousand eh? Well they are chewing through 2000 per day so that should last a week.
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Post by on_one_wheel » 01 Feb 2023, 8:43 pm

I wonder of just one well placed small ball of lead in Putin's ear hole could end the war ?
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Post by Oldbloke » 01 Feb 2023, 10:18 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:I wonder of just one well placed small ball of lead in Putin's ear hole could end the war ?


That has been pondered by many a man.
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Post by Larry » 02 Feb 2023, 7:06 pm

I think it may be the only way it will end.
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Post by on_one_wheel » 02 Feb 2023, 7:23 pm

Pretty good chance that when Pootin dies, his replacement will have an even more advanced case of syphilis making him more ruthless and crazier than tge current syphilific freak running the show now.
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Post by Oldbloke » 03 Feb 2023, 5:05 am

I wonder what it's like living in Russia under Putin? Standard of living etc.
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Post by bladeracer » 03 Feb 2023, 9:53 am

Oldbloke wrote:I wonder what it's like living in Russia under Putin? Standard of living etc.


I follow some Russian people on Youtube that like to document their day to day lives and travels. Seems like most other countries, some people are wealthy, some are poor, most just live their lives as we do. I think overall their standard of living is not as high as ours, buildings look run down, vehicles look old, roads are rough, but they seem happy enough.

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Post by Pudlux » 03 Feb 2023, 6:55 pm

The green Western politco won't take Putin out because they would have no-one to blame for shortages in oil, gas, etc. He is the perfect scaremongers excuse.
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Post by mchughcb » 03 Feb 2023, 7:32 pm

Oldbloke wrote:I wonder what it's like living in Russia under Putin? Standard of living etc.


It's less trouble than living under Andrews and I've lived under both.
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Post by mchughcb » 03 Feb 2023, 7:37 pm

bladeracer wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:I wonder what it's like living in Russia under Putin? Standard of living etc.


I follow some Russian people on Youtube that like to document their day to day lives and travels. Seems like most other countries, some people are wealthy, some are poor, most just live their lives as we do. I think overall their standard of living is not as high as ours, buildings look run down, vehicles look old, roads are rough, but they seem happy enough.

Garage54 does some pretty entertaining stuff mechanically, and I do wonder how they pay for it all.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCydCOEgfcXAQnkRaLCTsAQ/videos


Watching someone on YouTube is not the same as living with 20 pissed uzbeks next door fighting every night.

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