Are we near the brink of WWIII?

[Lazarus]

china has had insurmountable financial issues for a very very long time, their entire construction sector has been a white elephant this entire time, and its completely collapsed, there is no saving their economy from total recession/depression.

True, and because we have tied our prosperity to theirs by so concentrating our trade, when that sh!t hits the fan we are getting splattered

[Lazarus]

And there's that other shoe, dropping like a ton of bricks.
We give the richest country in the world $4.6 billion to expand their ship building industry, just as Stumbles is setting up a halving of US sub production.

The French offer Moronison off the shelf nuke boats, he says "No, reinvent the wheel for us" fukcs everyone in sight around, then decides nukes were the go, screws the French, and gets into bed with Stumbles, only to find he's impotent

What
A
Cock
Show

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... rine-build

[Oldbloke]

And there's that other shoe, dropping like a ton of bricks.
We give the richest country in the world $4.6 billion to expand their ship building industry, just as Stumbles is setting up a halving of US sub production.

The French offer Moronison off the shelf nuke boats, he says "No, reinvent the wheel for us" fukcs everyone in sight around, then decides nukes were the go, screws the French, and gets into bed with Stumbles, only to find he's impotent

What
A
Cock
Show

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... rine-build

This is just one more chapter in the book called "Thirty years of ADI fukd up procurement."

[Lazarus]

It's like something from Monty Python, OB.

The absurdity would be humorous if it was a skit.

Buy it's not a skit, it a monumental scat

[Oldbloke]

It's like something from Monty Python, OB.

The absurdity would be humorous if it was a skit.

Buy it's not a skit, it a monumental scat

100%
Makes me sick.

[Lazarus]

I do dislike it when I go off at half cock.

I may not have, but in the spirit of honesty....I just watched a report that perhaps throws a different light on the halving of US sub production.

According to the ABC24 news, the US Navy has decided to only request 1 instead of 2 new Vagina subs for 2025.
That is a different scenario to Stumbles deciding to halve production.

Perhaps that frees production capacity to make our Vaginas a bit earlier.

Perhaps monkeys will fly out of my bum.

[Oldbloke]

I do dislike it when I go off at half cock.

I may not have, but in the spirit of honesty....I just watched a report that perhaps throws a different light on the halving of US sub production.

According to the ABC24 news, the US Navy has decided to only request 1 instead of 2 new Vagina subs for 2025.
That is a different scenario to Stumbles deciding to halve production.

[i]Perhaps[/i] that frees production capacity to make our Vaginas a bit earlier.

Perhaps monkeys will fly out of my bum.

Interesting idea. I hope your right. We can hope.

[Lazarus]

For monkeys?

[mickb]

Fair call Lazarus. We have differing opinions. My scale is probably even different.. I believe its more likely Russia and Ukraines bosses are probably in kahootz, and probably ours as well. Land and money grab. The new style of raiding Euro countries.Screw the people getting invaded, billionaires on all sides are making bank and us with everyday escalating life costs.

Want to hear a prediction on Russia Ukrain right now? years long, the UN with its nose in the trough( already is), multiple rebrands( war will be renamed every few years to make the public feel like its watching a sequel not the same old show) and you and me paying $10 a loaf of bread.

Also, Elon musk, bezos, arnault etc will have need to add a jockey wheel to their smartphone just to get all the fkn zeros on the screen when they check their net worth,.

I've been a broken record on the 1%ers and feudalism for a long time, what with me being the oracle of the internet and all, trying to explain to people that while love of money isn't the root of all evil, the unequal distribution of it is.

Unfortunately, to the fringe dwellers, that makes me a socialist at best, a baby eating lizard extraterrestrial paedophile at worst.

It never fails to amuse me when someone, not you, asumes they know more about how I think and what I believe, from the snippets of what I might say on the internet while backing one out.(1)



(1.)
I'm a mouthy prick, so not all my verbiage is posted from the throne room.

Yeah mate I have read and enjoyed your posts on feudalism which is why I am not going to bang on.

[Lazarus]

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News ... 710329197/

[Lazarus]

A Bradley, turning invaders into fertiliser

https://youtu.be/95E1fom-Y6Y

[Oldbloke]

Might seem odd.

I have a lot of sympathy for the Ukrainians as they are defending their country, family's and culture against an arshole dictator.

But, also a bit of empathy for the Russian troops. The vast majority are conscripted with little training and often second rate equipment. And some forget, they have families too.

[alexjones]

Might seem odd.

I have a lot of sympathy for the Ukrainians as they are defending their country, family's and culture against an arshole dictator.

But, also a bit of empathy for the Russian troops. The vast majority are conscripted with little training and often second rate equipment. And some forget, they have families too.

I would agree too. It is not odd at all. I think you will find that in war the rank and file of either side have more in common with each other than they do with their respective leaders. They just do what they are told.

My grandfather always hated the Japs because of the war and he always went off at them if he saw them in public. In my mind that Jap just happened to be born in Japan and got told to fight in a war. I don't see it as malice. Granted I don't have the first hand trauma that he has going through it. I can't imagine you can just switch that stuff off after being told for years to kill all japs then one day when the war is over to just turn that feeling off.

[alexjones]

Violence begets violence

I was reading an article the other day that said the ongoing war in the middle east since 2001 has created so many more "terrorists".

If you were a little boy born in Afghanistan or Iraq and your whole family was killed in a drone strike of course you are going to grow up hating the west. It just becomes and endless cycle of hate and revenge.

Just like that movie boys in the hood from the early 1990s. Gang war retaliation killings just leaves a state of constant revenge as one gang just keeps killing the other and the circle of hate continues.



"for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword" ~ Jesus

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[gunderson]

china has had insurmountable financial issues for a very very long time, their entire construction sector has been a white elephant this entire time, and its completely collapsed, there is no saving their economy from total recession/depression.

True, and because we have tied our prosperity to theirs by so concentrating our trade, when that sh!t hits the fan we are getting splattered

Australia's financial future is doomed, anyone stupid enough to continually elect mongs that endlessly make the nations GDP resource based is asking for a flogging fiscally.

Aussies, in general, are idiots, they have the government they deserve, the amount of times I've heard my mates who own small businesses in the city (service based, for example: cafe's and restaurants), parrot this line that they contribute to the economy, I am beyond amazed that they genuinely believe it.

They parrot this line all the while they furnish their homes with furniture and appliances from foreign countries, drive an imported car, buy produce that comes from overseas, food from overseas, the coffee they sell in their shops comes from overseas, the workers they hire are doing the same, all foreign origin products.

They have no idea about how the economy actually works, this is the reason Aussies suffer cost of living issues, recessions, etc etc, despite having one of the most generous resource/population ratios in the world. We as a nation have basically no locally owned, operated and moderated business, everything is world parody prices, nothing is made here, and the stuff that is made here or dug up here or grown here is sent overseas and then bought back off of global companies at a mark up with the pressure of world parody pricing.

what this means is that every item sold here, has the majority of its cost sent overseas, aka, massive sink hole,


The same applies to literally every single government job there is, all are paid for off the efforts and backs of what industry there is left... the tax revenue from every worker and business, there is no net gain from any job they do... sure it is essential, god forbid we stop having essential services, public health, transport and policing as well as emergency services, but those working those sectors need to drop the delusion that they contribute to the economy, because they don't, they double dip more or less.

Australia is now in a debt spiral it cannot escape, the cost of living and inevitable wage inflation is going to guarantee that we as a nation continue to get into more and more debt as each subsequent government cant see the forest for the trees and wants to just keep running in blindfolded riding on the back of the whore and harlot that is mining and oil and gas.

The sheer hypocrisy of both major parties is rife, but labors constant authoritarian moves in the name of "the environment" whilst still providing absolutely no alternative industry for the workers and economic benefit of Australia, hell they just went out of their way to destroy the latest Space industry startup here in Australia. Without a much bigger push for tech based economic growth, Australia may as well concede defeat now. And even then, we are already priced out of the vast majority of that industry because of wages.

Forget Aussies picking up any engineering and precision electronics from the Europeans as well, The average Aussie workforce is well below standard for moving to any of that whilst being in any way competent enough to compete globally.

We are basically 70 years behind the ball here, we have mastered digging holes, and have literally chased away all other industry with the pitchfork of poor choices.

[Oldbloke]

Russia sucks.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-17/ ... c_news_web

[Lazarus]

Might seem odd.

I have a lot of sympathy for the Ukrainians as they are defending their country, family's and culture against an arshole dictator.

But, also a bit of empathy for the Russian troops. The vast majority are conscripted with little training and often second rate equipment. And some forget, they have families too.

Well, OB, day number 1, the "ordinary Russian conscripts" were murdering civilians for carrying a phone.

These "ordinary" conscripts on day one, driving an armoured vehicle over a civilian car, because it was there.
https://youtu.be/JzGyPIBlPTI?si=atzuP7kRCRFtKFq-

I hope every invading Russian takes up permanent residence as blood and bone fertiliser for the grain fields.
Slava Ukraine

[Oldbloke]

Just cold blooded murder
.

[mchughcb]

Might seem odd.

I have a lot of sympathy for the Ukrainians as they are defending their country, family's and culture against an arshole dictator.

But, also a bit of empathy for the Russian troops. The vast majority are conscripted with little training and often second rate equipment. And some forget, they have families too.

Well, OB, day number 1, the "ordinary Russian conscripts" were murdering civilians for carrying a phone.

These "ordinary" conscripts on day one, driving an armoured vehicle over a civilian car, because it was there.
https://youtu.be/JzGyPIBlPTI?si=atzuP7kRCRFtKFq-

I hope every invading Russian takes up permanent residence as blood and bone fertiliser for the grain fields.
Slava Ukraine

It's not a tank it's a missle launcher and whilst it's been reported for the last 2 years in the Russian press it was a Ukrainian launcher that lost control in the early days when the convoy was outside Kiev, don't take my word for it check it out on snopes where the French military conclude it was a Ukrainian launcher.

Slava putting my head in the sand when the facts say otherwise.

[Oldbloke]

Dr Strange Love is on tonight (melbourne ch32 8.30)

[Oldbloke]

Both snopes and usatoday conclude its unclear who is driving the equipment.

[mchughcb]

French say they are pretty sure for a lot of reasons why it was a Ukrainian that panicked.

https://observers.france24.com/en/europ ... n-car-kyiv

[Lazarus]

Might seem odd.

I have a lot of sympathy for the Ukrainians as they are defending their country, family's and culture against an arshole dictator.

But, also a bit of empathy for the Russian troops. The vast majority are conscripted with little training and often second rate equipment. And some forget, they have families too.

Well, OB, day number 1, the "ordinary Russian conscripts" were murdering civilians for carrying a phone.

These "ordinary" conscripts on day one, driving an armoured vehicle over a civilian car, because it was there.
https://youtu.be/JzGyPIBlPTI?si=atzuP7kRCRFtKFq-

I hope every invading Russian takes up permanent residence as blood and bone fertiliser for the grain fields.
Slava Ukraine

It's not a tank it's a missle launcher and whilst it's been reported for the last 2 years in the Russian press it was a Ukrainian launcher that lost control in the early days when the convoy was outside Kiev, don't take my word for it check it out on snopes where the French military conclude it was a Ukrainian launcher.

Slava putting my head in the sand when the facts say otherwise.

The Russian press?
You mean Putin's totally cowed and controlled Kremlin mouthpiece?

You scorn people who get their information from the "free" western media, yet quote the Russian press as a source?

I don't recall calling it a "tank", just an "armoured vehicle", but some see what they wish.

I hadn't heard anyone, even the usual Russian collaborators such as yourself, trying to blame the Ukrainians for this, so I did some searching.

Out of the first 150 results, 2 were contrary to accepted fact.
One was a USA Today fact check, that said all evidence says there is context lacking and it is "unclear".
One was a French mob called the Observers, and I couldn't read it because I wouldn't accept their cookies.

You could be right, perhaps a random Ukrainian Strela driver just decided on the spur of the moment to drive over one of his own countrymen, then stop and reverse over him to make sure, out of sheer joy that they'd been invaded.

Then again, perhaps you're just sticking to character.
You didn't need to add that last bit about burying your head, your ludicrous reference to Russian media shows it's right up in there.

Slava Ukraine

[Oldbloke]

And what has all this got to do with "Are we near the brink of WWIII?"

I would have thought the Russian pretend/scam election would be more relevant.

[Lazarus]

And what has all this got to do with "Are we near the brink of WWIII?"

I would have thought the Russian pretend/scam election would be more relevant.

Maskirovka comes in many forms OB.

[Lazarus]

Well I got the French 24 article open, and it does throw some possible doubts on who was driving.

https://observers.france24.com/en/europ ... n-car-kyiv

You may actually be right mchughcb.

[Oldbloke]

Well I got the French 24 article open, and it does throw some possible doubts on who was driving.

https://observers.france24.com/en/europ ... n-car-kyiv

You may actually be right mchughcb.

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Weeellll, it's not clear, sooooo could be right. Or wrong.

[straightshooter]

And what has all this got to do with "Are we near the brink of WWIII?"

I would have thought the Russian pretend/scam election would be more relevant.

Dealing with your second statement first. Check out the chart in the image.
Before you blurt out "this is Russian propaganda" note that the polling organisation is/was US funded. Also note that support for Putin is purported to have intensified since the start of the Ukraine War.
With numbers like that why would there be any need to game or rig an election? Unlike in some so called bastions of democracy?

As for the first statement, I believe the Ukraine war is playing much the same role that the Spanish civil war played prior to WWII in that it was an opportunity for the various powers not directly involved to evaluate the capabilities of their game changing military developments and technology since WW1, such as air power, much as modern game changers are being evaluated now.
Had Russia been as militarily backward and industrially as weak and Ukraine and Nato as strong as had been imagined at the start of the Ukraine War then Nato would now be in the process of marching toward Vladivostok.

[Lazarus]

Seriously, who in Russia is going to publicly declare they were planning on voting for someone other than Putin, other than the ridiculously brave or the mentally challenged?

NATO marching towards Vladivostok?
Because Putin has forsworn his nukes?