AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

General conversation and chit chat - The place for non-shooting specific topics. Introduce yourself here.

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by mchughcb » 08 Nov 2024, 8:02 pm

One Qlder so happy that Trump is back in office. Guess he's going to be looking for another posting. Hopefully in China.

https://youtu.be/wqtlA7cTD28
User avatar
mchughcb
Officer Cadet
Officer Cadet
 
Posts: 1953
Victoria

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by alexjones » 08 Nov 2024, 8:03 pm

Death of wokeness!
Attachments
A4477AEC-FCC2-4961-ADB0-F471BDFB1B8B.jpeg
A4477AEC-FCC2-4961-ADB0-F471BDFB1B8B.jpeg (282.88 KiB) Viewed 1441 times
alexjones
Sergeant
Sergeant
 
Posts: 568
Queensland

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by mchughcb » 08 Nov 2024, 8:25 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :drinks:
User avatar
mchughcb
Officer Cadet
Officer Cadet
 
Posts: 1953
Victoria

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by mickb » 08 Nov 2024, 9:19 pm

I have to admit he looks old as hell now. 78 though I suppose aint young
mickb
Warrant Officer C1
Warrant Officer C1
 
Posts: 1342
Other

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by alexjones » 08 Nov 2024, 9:29 pm

mickb wrote:I have to admit he looks old as hell now. 78 though I suppose aint young


He really is a lot less energetic now than back in 2015/2016 when he first ran for president. But he is getting old now.

However for a 78 year old though he is rather spry. What other 78 year old do you know who flies around going to multiple rallies daily and speaking for 3-4 hours off the cuff without a teleprompter and having a huge crowd stay entertained?


Hate Trump all you want but you can't deny he is spry and energetic for an old man.
alexjones
Sergeant
Sergeant
 
Posts: 568
Queensland

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by on_one_wheel » 08 Nov 2024, 9:31 pm

I'd bet the last few years hes endured would've been taxing on anyone.
Gun control requires concentration and a steady hand
User avatar
on_one_wheel
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 3762
South Australia

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by alexjones » 08 Nov 2024, 10:35 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:I'd bet the last few years hes endured would've been taxing on anyone.



Yeah. Not to mention he got shot in the head.

I don't understand why people hate him. He says bad words and he is boorish, rude and crass. Who cares. Judge him on his performance not his demeanour. Trump says the quiet part out loud where other politicians lie behind your back which is a breath of fresh air.

I am yet to hear an argument besides “orange man bad” that makes sense.
alexjones
Sergeant
Sergeant
 
Posts: 568
Queensland

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by wanneroo » 09 Nov 2024, 1:27 am

Hopefully Trump is having a day off and getting some rest.

Republicans have not officially captured the house but it would appear based on projections from Decision Desk HQ, they will have 222 seats which is more than last time and gives them the majority. Republicans have the Senate but there are still some races to decide.

I think we will see several conservative Supreme Court justices take advantage of the situation and decide to retire.

Trump has some big plans to gut and reform federal government which is badly needed. One of things he started to do was decentralize federal government in his last term. He moved the Bureau of Land Management to Denver for instance. He wants to get other agencies out to other states and cities so Washington DC is not such a bloated swamp of bureaucrats. There is a lot of work to do.
wanneroo
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
 
Posts: 1539
United States of America

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by alexjones » 09 Nov 2024, 1:30 am

For those interested here is a little video on why the amish voted Trump. Basically the democrats tried to over regulate and intervene in their humble lives.

Donald Trump is standing up for peoples basic human right to be left alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=DSilkQ ... e=youtu.be
alexjones
Sergeant
Sergeant
 
Posts: 568
Queensland

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by wanneroo » 09 Nov 2024, 1:46 am

alexjones wrote:Death of wokeness!


Obama was not the creator of the woke mind virus but he helped create the modern version of it.

I think people put up with it for a while but it's become so insufferable and obnoxious, regular folks are in revolt.

Democrats failed to read the tea leaves and see that for regular people that stuff wasn't adding value to their life and if anything was taking away from quality of life.

What I notice with younger folks under 25 talking with a lot of them is they are more conservative and want to distance themselves from the wacky millennials with all their wacky identity politics. It reminds me of growing up as Gen X and my fellow high school students being conservative and rejecting and laughing at the hippy baby boomers. Trump took the under 25 vote, BTW.

I think we are entering a more conservative era and being a multi dimensional neo zoom dweebie disabled trans lesbian intersectional cherokee indian black woman will no longer be the thing to do. Maybe we will get back to the way it was in the 1980s were you were just American.

As one can see from the graph below, ic's, ism's and phobias were not a thing until Obama came along. Society from the 1970s to 2000s was stable.
Attachments
GbOw6rAWQAAxURH.jpg
GbOw6rAWQAAxURH.jpg (213.67 KiB) Viewed 1383 times
wanneroo
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
 
Posts: 1539
United States of America

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by wanneroo » 09 Nov 2024, 2:06 am

alexjones wrote:
on_one_wheel wrote:I'd bet the last few years hes endured would've been taxing on anyone.



Yeah. Not to mention he got shot in the head.

I don't understand why people hate him. He says bad words and he is boorish, rude and crass. Who cares. Judge him on his performance not his demeanour. Trump says the quiet part out loud where other politicians lie behind your back which is a breath of fresh air.

I am yet to hear an argument besides “orange man bad” that makes sense.


I was watching him at 12:45 AM on election day giving a rally in Michigan. He looked as fresh as anything.

But yes no doubt the past 4 years has been harsh. If he hadn't had turned his head, he would be dead and that has to play on anyone's mind.

People hate him because he gets things done and is willing to make radical changes. As I have found in my own experience in life, most people are go along to get along and want to do the least work possible, so if you make waves, they want you dead. The political bureaucracy hates him because he disrupts them leeching off taxpayers.
wanneroo
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
 
Posts: 1539
United States of America

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by wanneroo » 09 Nov 2024, 2:21 am

alexjones wrote:For those interested here is a little video on why the amish voted Trump. Basically the democrats tried to over regulate and intervene in their humble lives.

Donald Trump is standing up for peoples basic human right to be left alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=DSilkQ ... e=youtu.be


The Amish and Mennonites pretty much stay out of politics but the democrats and the bureaucrats pushed them over the edge.
wanneroo
Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
 
Posts: 1539
United States of America

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by mchughcb » 09 Nov 2024, 2:39 am

wanneroo wrote:Hopefully Trump is having a day off and getting some rest.

Republicans have not officially captured the house but it would appear based on projections from Decision Desk HQ, they will have 222 seats which is more than last time and gives them the majority. Republicans have the Senate but there are still some races to decide.

I think we will see several conservative Supreme Court justices take advantage of the situation and decide to retire.

Trump has some big plans to gut and reform federal government which is badly needed. One of things he started to do was decentralize federal government in his last term. He moved the Bureau of Land Management to Denver for instance. He wants to get other agencies out to other states and cities so Washington DC is not such a bloated swamp of bureaucrats. There is a lot of work to do.


Having dealt with the BLM under Trump and Biden the difference in attitude was chalk and cheese.
Actually doing business in America on BLM land was so much easier under Trump and I hope it ramps up again. People have no idea how hard it was under Barry or Joe unless you were there running a business.
User avatar
mchughcb
Officer Cadet
Officer Cadet
 
Posts: 1953
Victoria

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by Billo » 09 Nov 2024, 3:27 am

wanneroo wrote:
alexjones wrote:Death of wokeness!


Obama was not the creator of the woke mind virus but he helped create the modern version of it.

I think people put up with it for a while but it's become so insufferable and obnoxious, regular folks are in revolt.

Democrats failed to read the tea leaves and see that for regular people that stuff wasn't adding value to their life and if anything was taking away from quality of life.

What I notice with younger folks under 25 talking with a lot of them is they are more conservative and want to distance themselves from the wacky millennials with all their wacky identity politics. It reminds me of growing up as Gen X and my fellow high school students being conservative and rejecting and laughing at the hippy baby boomers. Trump took the under 25 vote, BTW.

I think we are entering a more conservative era and being a multi dimensional neo zoom dweebie disabled trans lesbian intersectional cherokee indian black woman will no longer be the thing to do. Maybe we will get back to the way it was in the 1980s were you were just American.

As one can see from the graph below, ic's, ism's and phobias were not a thing until Obama came along. Society from the 1970s to 2000s was stable.


I think you will find all of these issues .exploded.with the use of social media, something that didn't exist before 2000.
22lr, 17 WSM, 20 Hornady Hornet, 6mm ARC, 6.5 PRC, 270 Win, 7mm-08, 308 Win, 358 Win, 9.3x62, 44 Magnum, 500 S&W
User avatar
Billo
Sergeant
Sergeant
 
Posts: 623
New South Wales

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by bigrich » 09 Nov 2024, 4:41 am

alexjones wrote:For those interested here is a little video on why the amish voted Trump. Basically the democrats tried to over regulate and intervene in their humble lives.

Donald Trump is standing up for peoples basic human right to be left alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=DSilkQ ... e=youtu.be


thanks for posting that , very interesting. i'm not a religious man but i have a lot of respect for the traditional values and way of life of the Amish folks . it's a total polar opposite to the average suburban western "world citizen" , immersed in technology and always hungry for that next first world luxury item they could probably do without. tripleM radio in brisbane interviewed a former american woman the other morning about trump . her response was "say what you want, but trump does what he says he's going to do" . she said she'd been back to the US , illegals everywhere , drugs and crime out of control , she didn't recognise her own country. does that sound familiar and relevant fellas ........
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4844
Queensland

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by on_one_wheel » 09 Nov 2024, 7:03 am

One of Trump's first comments during his victory speech was "we've got lots and lots of oil"

I recall that Biden cut production, I also recall that rising fuel costs made pretty much everything more expensive. (yes war in Ukraine didn't help with fuel costs)

My prediction
Trump will push for maximum oil production, he may even allow Russian oil to flow again, we'll see a steady decline in fuel prices followed by a reduction in transport costs and so on.

Its 70's energy crisis history repeated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970s_energy_crisis
Gun control requires concentration and a steady hand
User avatar
on_one_wheel
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 3762
South Australia

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by bigrich » 09 Nov 2024, 7:16 am

on_one_wheel wrote:One of Trump's first comments during his victory speech was "we've got lots and lots of oil"

I recall that Biden cut production, I also recall that rising fuel costs made pretty much everything more expensive. (yes war in Ukraine didn't help with fuel costs)

My prediction
Trump will push for maximum oil production, we'll see a steady decline in fuel prices followed by a reduction in transport costs and so on.

Its 70's energy crisis history repeated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970s_energy_crisis


Interesting perspective. Who would’ve thought that oil production would be cut to increase prices.lol.
In our country fuel is taxed on a percentage basis, so it’s in our government interest for prices to be high for all those tax dollars. I don’t think oil company executives mind either….
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4844
Queensland

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by stihl88 » 09 Nov 2024, 8:48 am

mickb wrote:I have to admit he looks old as hell now. 78 though I suppose aint young

Look what 4 years as VP did to the old Camelt face, I bet she's releived she didn't win
Camel Face.jpg
Camel Face.jpg (72.54 KiB) Viewed 1332 times
User avatar
stihl88
Corporal
Corporal
 
Posts: 252
Victoria

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by Billo » 09 Nov 2024, 10:20 am

22lr, 17 WSM, 20 Hornady Hornet, 6mm ARC, 6.5 PRC, 270 Win, 7mm-08, 308 Win, 358 Win, 9.3x62, 44 Magnum, 500 S&W
User avatar
Billo
Sergeant
Sergeant
 
Posts: 623
New South Wales

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by mchughcb » 09 Nov 2024, 10:26 am

And loving it.
User avatar
mchughcb
Officer Cadet
Officer Cadet
 
Posts: 1953
Victoria

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by mchughcb » 09 Nov 2024, 10:37 am

stihl88 wrote:
mickb wrote:I have to admit he looks old as hell now. 78 though I suppose aint young

Look what 4 years as VP did to the old Camelt face, I bet she's releived she didn't win
Camel Face.jpg

56-60. I'm thinking botox ans airbrushing that first photo.
User avatar
mchughcb
Officer Cadet
Officer Cadet
 
Posts: 1953
Victoria

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by alexjones » 09 Nov 2024, 12:17 pm

Was just watching these news presenters ask an old women why she is voting for Trump and her answer was that a stick of butter is $7 under Biden.

The out of touch smugness from the presenters who make millions of dollars a year to this old lady is repugnant to me.

The cost of living is why the democrats lost. Leftists with their over regulation, flooding the country with low skilled illegal immigrants and locking down the country for two years under covid is why inflation is so high.


Butter is a euphemism for everything. Everything is expensive.
alexjones
Sergeant
Sergeant
 
Posts: 568
Queensland

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by Peter988 » 09 Nov 2024, 1:11 pm

So just a hypothetical. If Trump gets bumped off before inauguration, does Vance take the reins ?
Peter988
Lance Corporal
Lance Corporal
 
Posts: 218
Queensland

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by alexjones » 09 Nov 2024, 1:39 pm

Peter988 wrote:So just a hypothetical. If Trump gets bumped off before inauguration, does Vance take the reins ?


Short answer yes. Americans vote for president as well as vice president hence the term running mates.

Long answer see below.

That answer depends on where in the election cycle he dies but because we are after election day but before inauguration day the below occurs.

If the candidate dies or is incapacitated after Election Day, the 20th amendment to the Constitution kicks in and the vice president elect gets inaugurated as president.

If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/what ... uary-2025/
alexjones
Sergeant
Sergeant
 
Posts: 568
Queensland

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by bigrich » 09 Nov 2024, 2:19 pm

apparently iran has organized a assassination on trump , which they thought would be easy after he lost the election . tough luck iran :lol:
User avatar
bigrich
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4844
Queensland

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by alexjones » 09 Nov 2024, 4:57 pm

bigrich wrote:apparently iran has organized a assassination on trump , which they thought would be easy after he lost the election . tough luck iran :lol:



Call me crazy but what are the odds this happens days after Trump wins the election?

Israel want to attack Iran and want Trumps backing. So is this all a ruse to piss off Trump and make him angry at Iran so he gives approval to attack Iran?

I am not saying the above is true but I like to question everything and not accept things at face value.
alexjones
Sergeant
Sergeant
 
Posts: 568
Queensland

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by stihl88 » 09 Nov 2024, 6:07 pm

Peter988 wrote:So just a hypothetical. If Trump gets bumped off before inauguration, does Vance take the reins ?

More than likely but technically no;

Before the Electoral College Vote: If this occurs before the Electoral College formally casts its votes (which typically happens in December), the party of the deceased candidate would usually nominate a replacement. The Electoral College could then vote for this replacement candidate, though electors are generally free to cast their votes as they choose under their state laws.

After the Electoral College Vote but Before Inauguration: If it happens after the Electoral College has cast votes but before Inauguration Day, it becomes more complex. Congress would have to certify the Electoral College results, and the party might nominate a successor. Typically, the vice president-elect would become the president-elect in this scenario and would then be inaugurated.

After Inauguration: If the president passes away after taking office, the 25th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution ensures that the vice president is immediately sworn in as president.

Each of these scenarios is unprecedented in modern U.S. history, so the precise steps might vary depending on timing and constitutional interpretation, but the succession line is clear: the vice president-elect (or current vice president) would be next in line.
User avatar
stihl88
Corporal
Corporal
 
Posts: 252
Victoria

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by Blr243 » 09 Nov 2024, 6:10 pm

Can someone fill me in please. Was it 51 per cent trump , or did he win by a greater margin?
Blr243
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 4696
Queensland

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by stihl88 » 09 Nov 2024, 6:19 pm

Blr243 wrote:Can someone fill me in please. Was it 51 per cent trump , or did he win by a greater margin?

It's not really about percentages it more about the Electoral college for the POTUS race, then you want to pick up the Senate and House (congress) to pass any meaningful legislation. The Popular vote is irrelevant although is a good litmus test to overall popularity.

Trump is likely to hit a home run on everything.
-Electoral College 226 to 301 (He'll pick up the final 11 in AZ once called) so 312 total.
-Trump won the pupular Vote - 74million to 70million.
-Won all the 7 swing states (PA, NC, GA, NV, MI, WI will win AZ), flipping all except NC which was already Red.
-Won the Senate majority.
-Will likely win the House majority after the last few states are counted.

The people have spoken, hence the title of the thread. The Democrat party as you know it is no longer, it's an Empire in decline that is unrecoverable. To fix the heamoraging they'll have to mimick the Republican party or pull their sleeves up even more and go all the way corrupt~woke until they've hit absolute rock bottom.

They even pulled in $1billion in funding from their donors, mainly Big Tech, Pharma etc to Trumps $0.3 billion and still couldn't pull it off! I read somewhere they're came out in the Red $20million owing! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Last edited by stihl88 on 09 Nov 2024, 6:31 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
stihl88
Corporal
Corporal
 
Posts: 252
Victoria

Re: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!!!

Post by alexjones » 09 Nov 2024, 6:26 pm

stihl88 wrote:
Blr243 wrote:Can someone fill me in please. Was it 51 per cent trump , or did he win by a greater margin?

It's not really about percentages it more about the Electoral college for the POTUS race, then you want to pick up the Senate and House (congress) to pass any meaningful legislation. The Popular vote is irrelevant although is a good litmus test to overall popularity.

Trump is likely to hit a home run on everything hence the title of the thread.
-Electoral College 226 to 301 (He'll pick up the final 11 in AZ once called) so 312 total.
-Trump won the pupular Vote - 74million to 70million.
-Won all the 7 swing states (PA, NC, GA, NV, MI, WI will win AZ), flipping all except NC which was already Red.
-Won the Senate majority
-Will likely win the House majority.



In other words it is considered a big win.

Republicans have not won the popular vote since the 1980s with bush sr.

Winning the popular vote, the electoral college and all the swing states not to mention the house and senate is Americas version of a peoples mandate.

Whats crazy is Biden got 10 million more votes in 2020 than Kamala got this time. So these 10 million people have left the democrat party? Not to mention democrats spent 1 billion dollars in this campaign. And they still lost. Haha



MAGA is home!
Last edited by alexjones on 09 Nov 2024, 6:30 pm, edited 2 times in total.
alexjones
Sergeant
Sergeant
 
Posts: 568
Queensland

PreviousNext

Back to top
 
Return to Off topic - General conversation