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Being petty

Post by alexjones » 10 Feb 2025, 6:24 pm

Does anyone else get irritated when uneducated morons who no nothing about guns refer to a magazine as a clip?

Reading the comments on some youtube videos where police were shooting criminals and the comments were like “oh they emptied a full clip in him”. :roll:

Pretty sure glocks have magazines, not clips. :violin:
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Post by fnq22 » 10 Feb 2025, 6:49 pm

yeah well a good mate of mine asked me the other day "how many are in the clip"...i reckon its just a USA thing that we see in movies because it sounds cooler then "magazine"...

My missus grew up in a working class area of New York City and still has friends there...all these 60 odd year old retired women strolling around the city with loaded Glocks or Sigs in their handbags with a couple of extra "clips"..one of them moved to Texas and found the open carry laws a bit much...seeing people with guns in holsters frightened her a little ...should stay out of sight she reckoned....it would be funny it it wasnt a tad scary.. :shock:

It doesnt really bother me personally...I guess you can either get annoyed or use it as an educational moment to explain the difference...
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Post by No1Mk3 » 10 Feb 2025, 7:21 pm

It is a common thing in America, and is not restricted to "uneducated morons" but also by many very experienced shooters and firearm instructors both civilian and military. As well as that, the item to the left in your pic annoys the bejeezus out of many who would say with some justification that it is not a clip at all but is in fact a charger. Included in the latter would be the former senior Armourer Instructor of the British Army.
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Re: Being petty

Post by on_one_wheel » 10 Feb 2025, 8:04 pm

I'd rather someone refer to a magazine as a clip than a firearm as a weapon.
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Post by stihl88 » 10 Feb 2025, 8:18 pm

alexjones wrote:Does anyone else get irritated when uneducated morons who no nothing about guns refer to a magazine as a clip?

Reading the comments on some youtube videos where police were shooting criminals and the comments were like “oh they emptied a full clip in him”. :roll:

Pretty sure glocks have magazines, not clips. :violin:

Biden was a classic for it, constantly misusing firearm terminology when asserting the need for gun control
Biden has taken credit for banning "the number of clips in a gun" and "eliminating magazines with multiple rounds," asked why anyone needs "100 clips… in a weapon," and said we should not sell "magazines with 100 clips"
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Post by Sarco » 10 Feb 2025, 8:49 pm

The firearm/weapon is one of my pet hates.
Even the Australian defence force defines them separately.
Simples: Anything can/may be a weapon if it is used in an offensive manner
A firearms is described in basic terms as something that shoots bullets.
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Post by alexjones » 10 Feb 2025, 9:24 pm

Yes weapons is another one. However in QLD firearms fall under the weapons act and ammunition falls under the explosives act so we are kind of forced to use the word weapons and explosives sometimes.

The positive is though because they use the word weapons and not the word firearms and the weapons categories are not listed in the act but in the subordinate weapons categories regulation 1997, a mere simple change of this regulation is how suppressors will move from cat R and into cat C or D.

This is the next big push QLD is pushing for.
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Post by Die Judicii » 10 Feb 2025, 10:54 pm

alexjones wrote:Yes weapons is another one. However in QLD firearms fall under the weapons act and ammunition falls under the explosives act so we are kind of forced to use the word weapons and explosives sometimes.

The positive is though because they use the word weapons and not the word firearms and the weapons categories are not listed in the act but in the subordinate weapons categories regulation 1997, a mere simple change of this regulation is how suppressors will move from cat R and into cat C or D.

This is the next big push QLD is pushing for.


Not necessarily a "mis representation" ,,, but here's another interesting/confusing point that could also be thrown into the abovementioned.

If you dig into the Qld Weapons Licensing regulations you will find reference to the fact that a "rifle bolt" is classified as a Firearm.

Which explains why in the safe storage of firearms section, it is stated that "firearms must be securely stored, with the bolt removed." and then continues on to say that it is acceptable to store the removed bolt beside the rifle (so long as it is removed from the rifle)

However,,,,,, the fine print that defines the bolt itself as a firearm,,, therefore prevents the bolt from being locked in the ammo compartment of the safe,
because firearms and ammunition must be kept secure and separated.


These lawmaking boffins must certainly LOVE their jobs. :lol:
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Re: Being petty

Post by alexjones » 10 Feb 2025, 11:16 pm

Die Judicii wrote:
alexjones wrote:Yes weapons is another one. However in QLD firearms fall under the weapons act and ammunition falls under the explosives act so we are kind of forced to use the word weapons and explosives sometimes.

The positive is though because they use the word weapons and not the word firearms and the weapons categories are not listed in the act but in the subordinate weapons categories regulation 1997, a mere simple change of this regulation is how suppressors will move from cat R and into cat C or D.

This is the next big push QLD is pushing for.


Not necessarily a "mis representation" ,,, but here's another interesting/confusing point that could also be thrown into the abovementioned.

If you dig into the Qld Weapons Licensing regulations you will find reference to the fact that a "rifle bolt" is classified as a Firearm.

Which explains why in the safe storage of firearms section, it is stated that "firearms must be securely stored, with the bolt removed." and then continues on to say that it is acceptable to store the removed bolt beside the rifle (so long as it is removed from the rifle)

However,,,,,, the fine print that defines the bolt itself as a firearm,,, therefore prevents the bolt from being locked in the ammo compartment of the safe,
because firearms and ammunition must be kept secure and separated.


These lawmaking boffins must certainly LOVE their jobs. :lol:


Yes a bolt is listed as a major firearm component. So many people think they can just put the bolt in with the ammo because they don't no this.

Also a barrel is too. So you have to store your barrels in the safe. Sucks if you have a full safe and multiple barrels or really long shotgun barrels.
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Re: Being petty

Post by Bugman » 12 Feb 2025, 3:49 pm

Just as side line bit of info: my mate who is a Pestie in QLD has been informed that ANY access to a roof space requires that the power be turned off beforehand. It is the Law now apparently. He does heaps of termite inspections and the roof area is a very important part of the inspection. The thing is, many of his clients etc have heaps of computers etc in use and have to shut them down before commencing work. I don't think the power shut off is a bad idea but it has is drawbacks I think. I think QLD is a great state but is it being 'nannied"
for the population at large. Not only this but to the shooters of the state?
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Post by Oldbloke » 12 Feb 2025, 4:39 pm

Bugman wrote:Just as side line bit of info: my mate who is a Pestie in QLD has been informed that ANY access to a roof space requires that the power be turned off beforehand. It is the Law now apparently. He does heaps of termite inspections and the roof area is a very important part of the inspection. The thing is, many of his clients etc have heaps of computers etc in use and have to shut them down before commencing work. I don't think the power shut off is a bad idea but it has is drawbacks I think. I think QLD is a great state but is it being 'nannied"
for the population at large. Not only this but to the shooters of the state?


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Re: Being petty

Post by alexjones » 12 Feb 2025, 4:44 pm

When I worked for a mining company in QLD you were not allowed to change a lightbulb. The electrician had to do it for 'safety reasons'. You were also not allowed to change a flat tyre on a car(light vehicle). The tyre fitters had to do it. Because the company lawyers said it elevates liability to the company. You must be trained and certified in their opinion.
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Re: Being petty

Post by on_one_wheel » 12 Feb 2025, 4:47 pm

alexjones wrote:When I worked for a mining company in QLD you were not allowed to change a lightbulb. The electrician had to do it for 'safety reasons'. You were also not allowed to change a flat tyre on a car(light vehicle). The tyre fitters had to do it. Because the company lawyers said it elevates liability to the company. You must be trained and certified in their opinion.


No bulls**t ....
I've worked for a mining co. that gave training to rooms full of people on "how to tie your shoelaces"
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Re: Being petty

Post by alexjones » 12 Feb 2025, 4:53 pm

Think of the dumbest person you know and at least half the other people out there are dumber than that person.

Over 800 Americans die every year from gun related accidents. Cleaning a loaded gun and next minute they have a hole in their head. Taking their gun out of or putting it in their holster and they tap the trigger etc etc.

So many stupid people exist in this world! These people get the same amounts of votes as we do too. :drinks:
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Re: Being petty

Post by on_one_wheel » 12 Feb 2025, 5:51 pm

Yeah fair point :lol:
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