WELCOME TO COUNTRY

[bigrich]

I also never said there is more gays I said there is more "weird" people. Weirdness and delusions of grandeur are tolerated a lot more then when we were kids.

If a boy wore a dress and pretended to be a girl when I went to school he would hope that he could throw down like Mike Tyson. These days I have seen it on TV where it is encouraged for boys to wear dresses like a women.

if that's how some people want to choose to live their life , good luck to them . so long as their not hurting anyone i couldn't really give a s*** . are you so perfect you can judge others ?

i live my life to my old school values , used to do the hot rod/muscle car thing , now i'm shooting and hunting . that's what i choose to do and i should be free to do it . if others choose to do stuff you consider "weird" , mate who cares . it's supposed to be a free democratic society with rights and freedom of choice, remember ? you sound like you've got some real hang ups mate , go live your life and stop being so judgemental

[Oldbloke]

I also never said there is more gays I said there is more "weird" people. Weirdness and delusions of grandeur are tolerated a lot more then when we were kids.

If a boy wore a dress and pretended to be a girl when I went to school he would hope that he could throw down like Mike Tyson. These days I have seen it on TV where it is encouraged for boys to wear dresses like a women.

if that's how some people want to choose to live their life , good luck to them . so long as their not hurting anyone i couldn't really give a s*** . are you so perfect you can judge others ?

i live my life to my old school values , used to do the hot rod/muscle car thing , now i'm shooting and hunting . that's what i choose to do and i should be free to do it . if others choose to do stuff you consider "weird" , mate who cares . it's supposed to be a free democratic society with rights and freedom of choice, remember ? you sound like you've got some real hang ups mate , go live your life and stop being so judgemental

You are what you are.

Been shown medically that sexual tendency is mostly genetic. Your born that way.

I think perhaps what AJ is, at least in part about, ?? is that in the media and schools those behaviours are encouraged, where as they should be discouraged.

If a kid is sitting on the fence I could easily push him in the wrong direction.

If they don't harm anyone people can live anyway they like IMO.

Bullying/harassment isn't the way.

[Die Judicii]

To offer a contrary viewpoint, I actually enjoy a WTC done well.

WTCs that are succinct and deliver a positive message can help inform those attending the relevant event, about the country's indigenous history. For me, that's a good thing.

Refer to my very first post on this topic [ page one ] which is precisely what I said.

My idea of WTC is that it should be short, to the point, and a simple "welcome" with zero political content.
As there are far more indigenous countries/lands within Australia than there are government states or territories,, (up to 500) the WTC is in my way of thinking the same as when some-one answers a knock on the door to visitors with the ensueing "come in" or "welcome".
And there isnt anything political about that.

What's so hard about that ?
We are already doing it.

[str8shutr]

To offer a contrary viewpoint, I actually enjoy a WTC done well.

WTCs that are succinct and deliver a positive message can help inform those attending the relevant event, about the country's indigenous history. For me, that's a good thing.

Refer to my very first post on this topic [ page one ] which is precisely what I said.

I'm on a similar wavelength with you .. sorry, I did a TL;DR

[alexjones]

Remember that song from years ago they made for the communities? Telling them not to sniff petrol.



When I was in Alice Springs the radio use to remind the local communities to pick their kids up from school. Because an adult with the same voting rights as you and me needs to be told to pick their child up from school.

I can't take any community seriously who need an outreach program like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=uWUZ87 ... e=youtu.be

[on_one_wheel]

Remember that song from years ago they made for the communities? Telling them not to sniff petrol.



When I was in Alice Springs the radio use to remind the local communities to pick their kids up from school. Because an adult with the same voting rights as you and me needs to be told to pick their child up from school.

I can't take any community seriously who need an outreach program like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=uWUZ87 ... e=youtu.be

Holier than thou us white folks hey.
I don't need to look far to see countless skinny assed, cartoon character looking white trash on meth destroying their own and thier children's lives, the kind that are beyond help.
Generational dole bludging families, alcoholics, gambling addics, wife bashing freaks, stories of children locked away in their bedrooms so mummy, daddy and thier drug f***ed mates can behave like animals.
Yeah, we're all so trustworthy hey.

[bigrich]

Remember that song from years ago they made for the communities? Telling them not to sniff petrol.



When I was in Alice Springs the radio use to remind the local communities to pick their kids up from school. Because an adult with the same voting rights as you and me needs to be told to pick their child up from school.

I can't take any community seriously who need an outreach program like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=uWUZ87 ... e=youtu.be

Holier than thou us white folks hey.
I don't need to look far to see countless white trash on meth destroying their own and thier children's lives, the kind that are beyond help.
Generational dole bludging families, alcoholics, gambling addics.
Yeah, we're all so trustworthy hey.

i've seen plenty of people like that growing up in logan i'll tell ya . thankfully very few in the suburb i live in . i'm starting to think AJ would've made a great "brown shirt" back in 1930's germany with his opinions .

[Robin]

Remember that song from years ago they made for the communities? Telling them not to sniff petrol.



When I was in Alice Springs the radio use to remind the local communities to pick their kids up from school. Because an adult with the same voting rights as you and me needs to be told to pick their child up from school.

I can't take any community seriously who need an outreach program like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=uWUZ87 ... e=youtu.be

Holier than thou us white folks hey.
I don't need to look far to see countless white trash on meth destroying their own and thier children's lives, the kind that are beyond help.
Generational dole bludging families, alcoholics, gambling addics.
Yeah, we're all so trustworthy hey.

i've seen plenty of people like that growing up in logan i'll tell ya . thankfully very few in the suburb i live in . i'm starting to think AJ would've made a great "brown shirt" back in 1930's germany with his opinions .

I Used to live in Beenleigh at one stage and the amount of drugged up people I would see was crazy, and can you guess what colour they were, I'll give you a hint, they were not black or brown or asian.

We bag and single out a race, however we only need to look in our own back yard to see that ours isn't any better, the sad thing is that we have traditionally had better education and services afforded to us, (correct me if on wrong on that part please)

[alexjones]

Did I say anything about how white people can't be crack heads too? No I didn't. So way to go projecting from what I said.

All I am saying is that if a community of people need to be told not to sniff petrol then there is something wrong with them.

Where is the community outreach programs in Logan or Caboolture for sniffing petrol? Why is it only in certain aboriginal communities?

[on_one_wheel]

Did I say anything about how white people can't be crack heads too? No I didn't. So way to go projecting from what I said.

All I am saying is that if a community of people need to be told not to sniff petrol then there is something wrong with them.

Where is the community outreach programs in Logan or Caboolture for sniffing petrol? Why is it only in certain aboriginal communities?

Because the good people of Logan and Caboolture have access to good education, they have old people who can teach the younger generations how to be part of a modern society, they have good healthcare and other social services, they don't live in a remote community tha's been formed by forcing people from their traditional way of life and left to rot.

s**t, they're running tv commercials (outreach programs) in Adelaide telling adults to talk to their babies, because mum and dad are glued to their devices, they're telling us not to drink drive, not to bash our partners... get a grip mate, we're no better.

[womble]

Did I say anything about how white people can't be crack heads too? No I didn't. So way to go projecting from what I said.

All I am saying is that if a community of people need to be told not to sniff petrol then there is something wrong with them.

Where is the community outreach programs in Logan or Caboolture for sniffing petrol? Why is it only in certain aboriginal communities?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aB4rVJsy8z8&pp=ygUYTmFuY3QgcmVhZ2FuIGp1c3Qgc2F5IG5v

[Die Judicii]

Did I say anything about how white people can't be crack heads too? No I didn't. So way to go projecting from what I said.

All I am saying is that if a community of people need to be told not to sniff petrol then there is something wrong with them.

Where is the community outreach programs in Logan or Caboolture for sniffing petrol? Why is it only in certain aboriginal communities?

Just as well your perfect eh.

I'm thinking you just like stirring the pot,, and getting a buzz from people's reactions to your bizarre and outrageous comments.

[5-0]

I’m tired of being “welcomed” to a country that my family helped build from the ground up. My ancestors arrived here in the 1820s, they cleared the land, raised families, created communities where there was nothing, and fought and died in wars to defend this country, including three of my great-uncles who were killed in WWII, from one side of the family no less. 3 out of 4 boys in the family.

This land is as much mine as anyone’s. A so-called Welcome to Country implies I’m a visitor, but I’m not. I was born here. My family’s blood, sweat, and sacrifice are woven into the foundations of modern Australia.

And where is my welcome? Where is the acknowledgement from Indigenous Australians as they stand in cities, hospitals, schools, and buildings that my family helped create, enjoying the benefits that generations of our work and commitment made possible?

Don’t talk down to me with a symbolic welcome. My family earned their place here long ago. I don’t owe anyone a thank you for being in my own country.

[bigrich]

I’m tired of being “welcomed” to a country that my family helped build from the ground up. My ancestors arrived here in the 1820s, they cleared the land, raised families, created communities where there was nothing, and fought and died in wars to defend this country, including three of my great-uncles who were killed in WWII, from one side of the family no less. 3 out of 4 boys in the family.

This land is as much mine as anyone’s. A so-called Welcome to Country implies I’m a visitor, but I’m not. I was born here. My family’s blood, sweat, and sacrifice are woven into the foundations of modern Australia.

And where is my welcome? Where is the acknowledgement from Indigenous Australians as they stand in cities, hospitals, schools, and buildings that my family helped create, enjoying the benefits that generations of our work and commitment made possible?

Don’t talk down to me with a symbolic welcome. My family earned their place here long ago. I don’t owe anyone a thank you for being in my own country.

I understand and agree with your point of view. My own family’s history is very similar

[womble]

It should be reserved for visitors. Not residents. Pretty simple really.

In that context it’s a wonderful and special thing that we can all take pride in. We are a country, a people, that are welcoming and friendly. And we have a great tourism industry to back that up.

But in the current context of every event or staff meeting. What is the intention of that. Some sort of humiliation ritual to reinforce this conducted idea of white guilt.

As a nation we do recognise their inter generational trauma adamantly. In all policy. In the curriculum in our children’s schools.and rightly so. But an inter generational grudge ceremony serves no purpose. It’s unnecessary and unwarranted when we continue to make repatriations and always will. We don’t dismiss our violent history. We recognise and acknowledge it and account for it. That’s already thoroughly built into our society.

So yeah I do take offence if I’m welcomed to my own country. It’s the insinuation that I wasn’t previously welcome. I didn’t choose to be born here. But I was and this is where I belong. I don’t need anybody’s blessing.

Just my opinion.

[Robin]

The Welcome to Country is simple however it’s been abused and used so often that it’s lost the meaning that it should have had , use it when it’s appropriate, for instance , overseas arrivals and Parliament but don’t keep pushing it, I like the Idea of the smoking ceremony it’s abit like the Haka and has meaning to it, however I dont see that being done on a aircraft

[straightshooter]

I am not sure of the exact event but it was in the 70's and involved Pacific Islanders, Maoris and Aborigines.
The Islanders and Maoris were belittling the Aborigines for not having some kind of greeting performance like a Haka.
His stimulated Ernie Dingo to create, on the spot, the modern "Welcome to Country" ritual.
Whether the ritual has any link to anything historical, who knows, as historical memories can, and have been, implanted.
It has now become a massive money spinner for people purporting to be of Aboriginal descent by servicing corporate and gubba interests.

[str8shutr]

I am not sure of the exact event but it was in the 70's and involved Pacific Islanders, Maoris and Aborigines.
The Islanders and Maoris were belittling the Aborigines for not having some kind of greeting performance like a Haka.
His stimulated Ernie Dingo to create, on the spot, the modern "Welcome to Country" ritual.
Whether the ritual has any link to anything historical, who knows, as historical memories can, and have been, implanted.
It has now become a massive money spinner for people purporting to be of Aboriginal descent by servicing corporate and gubba interests.

Thanks for the history ..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11056815/Welcome-Country-ceremony-created-Ernie-Dingo-Richard-Walley-OAM-1976.html
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/feb/23/ernie-dingo-and-richard-walley-on-the-40th-year-of-their-welcome-to-country

[Jackaroo]

Some of the MASSIVELY obese Aboriginals I've seen doing WTC its more like 'Welcome to KFC country'.

[alexjones]

Did I say anything about how white people can't be crack heads too? No I didn't. So way to go projecting from what I said.

All I am saying is that if a community of people need to be told not to sniff petrol then there is something wrong with them.

Where is the community outreach programs in Logan or Caboolture for sniffing petrol? Why is it only in certain aboriginal communities?

Because the good people of Logan and Caboolture have access to good education, they have old people who can teach the younger generations how to be part of a modern society, they have good healthcare and other social services, they don't live in a remote community tha's been formed by forcing people from their traditional way of life and left to rot.

s**t, they're running tv commercials (outreach programs) in Adelaide telling adults to talk to their babies, because mum and dad are glued to their devices, they're telling us not to drink drive, not to bash our partners... get a grip mate, we're no better.

Look I did not think of these things to be honest. Possibly could be something like this.

[alexjones]

Did I say anything about how white people can't be crack heads too? No I didn't. So way to go projecting from what I said.

All I am saying is that if a community of people need to be told not to sniff petrol then there is something wrong with them.

Where is the community outreach programs in Logan or Caboolture for sniffing petrol? Why is it only in certain aboriginal communities?

Just as well your perfect eh.

I'm thinking you just like stirring the pot,, and getting a buzz from people's reactions to your bizarre and outrageous comments.

Did I say I was perfect? I don't see how not supporting any community regardless of their colour or race who need to be told not to sniff petrol is bizarre or outrageous.

[womble]

Yes that’s a difficult one. Gee I dunno. Is it maybe because sniffing petrol has some rather unfortunate long term side effects. Like I dunno, irreversible damage to brain an organs. Serious psychological problems. Who knows.

Man that’s a really hard question. I just can’t seem to figure it out. Maybe I’m just really f***ing dumb.

Or maybe I’m an 8 year old child seeing his mates rolling around on the ground giggling and having a good time and I want to join in. Maybe I didn’t factor in the long term effects. Maybe I wasn’t thinking about my future at the time.

s**t mate. You’re the one that linked the video emulating peer group pressure with all the cool kids making rap videos and stuff instead.