WELCOME TO COUNTRY

[Jackaroo]

Will the Welcome To Country travesty ever fall by the wayside?

[alexjones]

Well the more people that shun it, boo it etc the better. We use to lock up homosexuals now they let them be fully integrated in society. So change can happen with societal support. Politics is downstream from culture. Change the culture then you can change the politics.

The reason why we are this far is because the majority of people just stay in silence. They think its BS but are to scared to speak for fear of being called this, that and whatever. This is why I like the current president of the USA. Is he perfect? No. Does he call out the BS? Yes!

[bigrich]

Well the more people that shun it, boo it etc the better. We use to lock up homosexuals now they let them be fully integrated in society. So change can happen with societal support. Politics is downstream from culture. Change the culture then you can change the politics.

The reason why we are this far is because the majority of people just stay in silence. They think its BS but are to scared to speak for fear of being called this, that and whatever. This is why I like the current president of the USA. Is he perfect? No. Does he call out the BS? Yes!

well , i'm not a big fan of welcome to country ceremonies , but carrying on booing it at a anzac day service is extremely disrespectful to those that have served , and those that have fallen . no place for politics or protests at anzac commemorations in any way , shape or form in my opinion

[Oldbloke]

Well the more people that shun it, boo it etc the better. We use to lock up homosexuals now they let them be fully integrated in society. So change can happen with societal support. Politics is downstream from culture. Change the culture then you can change the politics.

The reason why we are this far is because the majority of people just stay in silence. They think its BS but are to scared to speak for fear of being called this, that and whatever. This is why I like the current president of the USA. Is he perfect? No. Does he call out the BS? Yes!

well , i'm not a big fan of welcome to country ceremonies , but carrying on booing it at a anzac day service is extremely disrespectful to those that have served , and those that have fallen . no place for politics or protests at anzac commemorations in any way , shape or form in my opinion

Agree, 110%

[alexjones]

Is it disrespectful though? Or is the welcome to country that preceded the booing disrespectful?

I did not land on Gallipoli but I can only assume the blokes that did would not want a “welcome to country” ceremony.

I am yet to hear any actual veteran who actually saw combat say it was disrespectful.

[Tinker]

Well, hear it from me.
It was disrespectful.
As Bigrich says, there is no place for politics at an Anzac Day commemoration. Save your protests for the welcome ceremonies before the footy.

[Sean]

Well, hear it from me.
It was disrespectful.
As Bigrich says, there is no place for politics at an Anzac Day commemoration. Save your protests for the welcome ceremonies before the footy.

100%

I’m not a fan of it but time and place hey

[on_one_wheel]

I’d like to begin this post by acknowledging the...

Nup, I'm sick to death of the woke virtue signiling, I'm tired of the attempts from the lunatic left who strive to make us feel like we don't belong.

The booing during ANZAC service was inappropriate, however it has put a fire under the conversation which needs to be had.

[alexjones]

Well, hear it from me.
It was disrespectful.
As Bigrich says, there is no place for politics at an Anzac Day commemoration. Save your protests for the welcome ceremonies before the footy.

No place for politics yet the welcome to country is political. So one should not negate the other then.

[deye243]

If you can be bothered to watch it all I can't even believe she actually claims to be Aboriginal she's as white as me.
She has some good points though

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16EH5aB1iy/

[bigrich]

Well, hear it from me.
It was disrespectful.
As Bigrich says, there is no place for politics at an Anzac Day commemoration. Save your protests for the welcome ceremonies before the footy.

No place for politics yet the welcome to country is political. So one should not negate the other then.

i stick to my morales and principles , i wouldn't sink to dishonouring anzac services cause i think i'm right, or have some higher morale ground for justification of politicising a event that i consider sacred to being australian. what happened was selfish and obscenely disgusting . i'd feel like smacking those clowns in the chops if i was there and witnessed that

examples need to be set and adhered to . modern western society seems to be in a race to the bottom when i hear of events like this . imagine how elderly veteran's must've felt at this sort of carry on .by all means protest about welcome to country bullsh!t , but time and place . what's next , carry on politicising at a funeral . rant over

[Die Judicii]

Being part indigenous, I feel that the "welcome to country" coin definitely has two faces.

1) It is just that,,, A welcome to country.
A welcome to "specific" country,,,,,, and as such should be no weight to bear for anyone.

2) The welcome being made however,,,, should be succinct.

[alexjones]

Well, hear it from me.
It was disrespectful.
As Bigrich says, there is no place for politics at an Anzac Day commemoration. Save your protests for the welcome ceremonies before the footy.

No place for politics yet the welcome to country is political. So one should not negate the other then.

i stick to my morales and principles , i wouldn't sink to dishonouring anzac services cause i think i'm right, or have some higher morale ground for justification of politicising a event that i consider sacred to being australian. what happened was selfish and obscenely disgusting . i'd feel like smacking those clowns in the chops if i was there and witnessed that

examples need to be set and adhered to . modern western society seems to be in a race to the bottom when i hear of events like this . imagine how elderly veteran's must've felt at this sort of carry on .by all means protest about welcome to country bullsh!t , but time and place . what's next , carry on politicising at a funeral . rant over

Well mate lets just agree on that the only funeral to politicise will be when our mate mr Johnny Howard dies.

I will express my political beliefs that day.

[Die Judicii]

Well the more people that shun it, boo it etc the better.

Maybe aquaint yourself with the numbers/pro rata of Australian Indigenous Servicemen that saw active duty in WW1,,,,,,,,,
And for that matter,, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam as well.

[alexjones]

Well the more people that shun it, boo it etc the better.

Maybe aquaint yourself with the numbers/pro rata of Australian Indigenous Servicemen that saw active duty in WW1,,,,,,,,,
And for that matter,, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam as well.

What does a welcome to country ceremony have to do with aboriginal people seeing active duty? Nothing! They are acknowledged the same as everyone else.

[Oldbloke]

Well the more people that shun it, boo it etc the better.

Maybe aquaint yourself with the numbers/pro rata of Australian Indigenous Servicemen that saw active duty in WW1,,,,,,,,,
And for that matter,, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam as well.

What does a welcome to country ceremony have to do with aboriginal people seeing active duty? Nothing!

IMO nothing.

But a lot did serve and were treated badly.

Umm I believe RSL refused them membership for many years also.

I may well be corrected.

[alexjones]

Well the more people that shun it, boo it etc the better.

Maybe aquaint yourself with the numbers/pro rata of Australian Indigenous Servicemen that saw active duty in WW1,,,,,,,,,
And for that matter,, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam as well.

What does a welcome to country ceremony have to do with aboriginal people seeing active duty? Nothing!

IMO nothing.

But a lot did serve and were treated badly.

Umm I believe RSL refused them membership for many years also.

I may well be corrected.

Oh for sure you are not wrong there. There was a lot of mistreatment in those days.

[Die Judicii]

What does a welcome to country ceremony have to do with aboriginal people seeing active duty? Nothing! They are acknowledged the same as everyone else.

Forgive me,,,,,,,

Were you not posting about both Welcome to Country, and the Anzac Ceremony ? and our respect for returned servicemen and the fallen.

You fail to see a correlation ?

[bigrich]

Well the more people that shun it, boo it etc the better.

Maybe aquaint yourself with the numbers/pro rata of Australian Indigenous Servicemen that saw active duty in WW1,,,,,,,,,
And for that matter,, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam as well.

What does a welcome to country ceremony have to do with aboriginal people seeing active duty? Nothing!

IMO nothing.

But a lot did serve and were treated badly.

Umm I believe RSL refused them membership for many years also.

I may well be corrected.

i agree with you mate . aboriginals who served have (and still are ?) been treated disgustingly over the years . personally i think welcome to country has lost it's significance by being over done. if i was going onto a community out in the regions i think it's fully appropriate . while i don't agree with it's overuse , i think anzac commemoration is not the place to protest it

[bigrich]

What does a welcome to country ceremony have to do with aboriginal people seeing active duty? Nothing! They are acknowledged the same as everyone else.

Forgive me,,,,,,,

Were you not posting about both Welcome to Country, and the Anzac Ceremony ? and our respect for returned servicemen and the fallen.

You fail to see a correlation ?

actually , that's a good point . respect for the ancestors, respect for the fallen soldiers . there's two sides to every argument .....

[Wapiti]

My wife is part aboriginal and was appointed top of the senior tree of a number of indigenous medical advisory groups, but is very against "welcome to country" in any form, and points out that it is completely negative to Aboriginal-European relations. And as we see, it sure is.

She can see it for what it is, divisive and actually belittling for those beautiful aboriginal people who are not bitter activists.
She was particularly disgusted, as I was, to see it now entering and infesting sacred ceremonies like Anzac Day.

If people fail to realise that Anzac Day is not political, and that all servicepeople serving this country are Australians alike, as those of all backgrounds representing Australia who spilled blood, sweat and tears standing for us all have the same blood when spilt, without politics, agenda and guilt being introduced to grind some pathetic, guilt ridden axe.

[perentie]

My wife is part aboriginal and was appointed top of the senior tree of a number of indigenous medical advisory groups, but is very against "welcome to country" in any form, and points out that it is completely negative to Aboriginal-European relations. And as we see, it sure is.

She can see it for what it is, divisive and actually belittling for those beautiful aboriginal people who are not bitter activists.
She was particularly disgusted, as I was, to see it now entering and infesting sacred ceremonies like Anzac Day.

If people fail to realise that Anzac Day is not political, and that all servicepeople serving this country are Australians alike, as those of all backgrounds representing Australia who spilled blood, sweat and tears standing for us all have the same blood when spilt, without politics, agenda and guilt being introduced to grind some pathetic, guilt ridden axe.

Spot on 100%

[Bugman]

Both kinds of music maybe....country and western.

[bigrich]

My wife is part aboriginal and was appointed top of the senior tree of a number of indigenous medical advisory groups, but is very against "welcome to country" in any form, and points out that it is completely negative to Aboriginal-European relations. And as we see, it sure is.

She can see it for what it is, divisive and actually belittling for those beautiful aboriginal people who are not bitter activists.
She was particularly disgusted, as I was, to see it now entering and infesting sacred ceremonies like Anzac Day.

If people fail to realise that Anzac Day is not political, and that all servicepeople serving this country are Australians alike, as those of all backgrounds representing Australia who spilled blood, sweat and tears standing for us all have the same blood when spilt, without politics, agenda and guilt being introduced to grind some pathetic, guilt ridden axe.

Well said, couldn’t agree more

[Bugman]

Yes. Anzac Day is just that, Anzac Day and what I learnt about it as a child growing up, will not be changed by adding ceremonies that were not around then.

[Jackaroo]

My wife is part aboriginal and was appointed top of the senior tree of a number of indigenous medical advisory groups, but is very against "welcome to country" in any form, and points out that it is completely negative to Aboriginal-European relations. And as we see, it sure is.

She can see it for what it is, divisive and actually belittling for those beautiful aboriginal people who are not bitter activists.
She was particularly disgusted, as I was, to see it now entering and infesting sacred ceremonies like Anzac Day.

If people fail to realise that Anzac Day is not political, and that all servicepeople serving this country are Australians alike, as those of all backgrounds representing Australia who spilled blood, sweat and tears standing for us all have the same blood when spilt, without politics, agenda and guilt being introduced to grind some pathetic, guilt ridden axe.

Every Aboriginal person I know is embarrassed about WTC and call it a scam.

[Oldbloke]

My wife is part aboriginal and was appointed top of the senior tree of a number of indigenous medical advisory groups, but is very against "welcome to country" in any form, and points out that it is completely negative to Aboriginal-European relations. And as we see, it sure is.

She can see it for what it is, divisive and actually belittling for those beautiful aboriginal people who are not bitter activists.
She was particularly disgusted, as I was, to see it now entering and infesting sacred ceremonies like Anzac Day.

If people fail to realise that Anzac Day is not political, and that all servicepeople serving this country are Australians alike, as those of all backgrounds representing Australia who spilled blood, sweat and tears standing for us all have the same blood when spilt, without politics, agenda and guilt being introduced to grind some pathetic, guilt ridden axe.

Spot on.

"WE ARE AUSTRALIAN"

NOT white fellas and black fellas.

I used to be be sympathetic towards Aboriginals.

Much less so now.

It's true they have problems often not their fault. And our society should do our best to help. That's what a good society does, help those that need assistance.

But they are the cause of many of their own problems. And need to get off their collective buts off and fix them.
Only they can do it.

I'm sick and tired of the "welcome to country" too. The more I see it, the less sympathy I have.

[Wapiti]

Well said.
The local gAyBC radio this morning is deliberately calling the bloke (I think it was one, tell me if I'm wrong) a "NEO NAZI" for having the balls to tell it like it is.

[bigrich]

Well said.
The local gAyBC radio this morning is deliberately calling the bloke (I think it was one, tell me if I'm wrong) a "NEO NAZI" for having the balls to tell it like it is.

when the story first broke , i heard the same thing on the radio , not the abc either . something about him being the bloke who was convicted over giving the nazi salute . what the full story is remains to be seen . the "term neo" nazi has been getting thrown around alot by media. i heard it initially reported it was the fella convicted of giving the nazi salute recently

[Oldbloke]

I heard a story that the crowd delt with him. Apparently media cameras "saved" him from some serious retribution.