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Re: WELCOME TO COUNTRY

Post by Robin » 03 May 2025, 9:17 pm

alexjones wrote:I hate government telling people what to do but I like societal norms making people feel shame.

Shaming having babies out of wedlock is a good thing. These days being a single mother is a feminist ideal.

When we grew up people had a greater sense of shame and a greater moral compass which led to a greater sense of community.

Bring back shame and school bullying. When I went to school if a boy said he wanted to be a girl the other kids would of gave him a taste of reality.



You are a joke and too be honest, you should never be taken seriously.

Shaming having babies out of wedlock is a good thing. These days being a single mother is a feminist ideal - Why shame them, have you ever had sex before marriage, or are you one of those people who didn't have sex before marriage,, I'm sorry but I would say most of us have wet the line before marriage, it's not always the mothers fault that they become single, and even the mothers who have chosen to have kids on there own, how is that your problem, there are so many single mothers out there, who's kids are doing so well.

Bring back shame and school bullying. When I went to school if a boy said he wanted to be a girl the other kids would of gave him a taste of reality , I can't believe you just said that, that is so nasty, as someone who was bullied because I was different , I was skinny , super white and had learning difficulties, I was bullied for that, and it sticks to a person for a very long time, I was lucky as I had good parents, however not everyone had the support I had and some of them have killed them selves, Bullying in school or in any place is never ok, no matter how different they are, it is never ok, you don't know what is going on with that kid, and how hard it already is for them.

I think you are a total joke and get help because I think you need it.
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Re: WELCOME TO COUNTRY

Post by Die Judicii » 03 May 2025, 10:55 pm

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Again with school yard bullying. All these weirdos who think they are the opposite gender etc need a dose of bullying from their peers instead of their peers reinforcing their delusions.


Sorry mate, bullying Is not the answer


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Re: WELCOME TO COUNTRY

Post by Die Judicii » 03 May 2025, 11:40 pm

Alexjones ,, if you’ve ever bred or intend to i hope none of your children end up gay or transgender.
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Re: WELCOME TO COUNTRY

Post by alexjones » 04 May 2025, 6:43 am

Robin wrote:
alexjones wrote:I hate government telling people what to do but I like societal norms making people feel shame.

Shaming having babies out of wedlock is a good thing. These days being a single mother is a feminist ideal.

When we grew up people had a greater sense of shame and a greater moral compass which led to a greater sense of community.

Bring back shame and school bullying. When I went to school if a boy said he wanted to be a girl the other kids would of gave him a taste of reality.



You are a joke and too be honest, you should never be taken seriously.

Shaming having babies out of wedlock is a good thing. These days being a single mother is a feminist ideal - Why shame them, have you ever had sex before marriage, or are you one of those people who didn't have sex before marriage,, I'm sorry but I would say most of us have wet the line before marriage, it's not always the mothers fault that they become single, and even the mothers who have chosen to have kids on there own, how is that your problem, there are so many single mothers out there, who's kids are doing so well.

Bring back shame and school bullying. When I went to school if a boy said he wanted to be a girl the other kids would of gave him a taste of reality , I can't believe you just said that, that is so nasty, as someone who was bullied because I was different , I was skinny , super white and had learning difficulties, I was bullied for that, and it sticks to a person for a very long time, I was lucky as I had good parents, however not everyone had the support I had and some of them have killed them selves, Bullying in school or in any place is never ok, no matter how different they are, it is never ok, you don't know what is going on with that kid, and how hard it already is for them.

I think you are a total joke and get help because I think you need it.


I should get help? I think it is a joke how sensitive you are. Every metric tells us that single mothers are the worst households. Of course this not an absolute and there are nuances involved. Raising children in broken homes should not be encouraged. Yes it is not always the mothers fault, men should also do their responsibility to their children also.

I disagree. Societal pressure/bullying whatever you call it has advantages in keeping people from being weird. Would you feed into the delusions of someone with schizophrenia that the dog is talking to them? Or would you tell them they need medical help? Its the same thing.

Why is there so much weirdness today then in yesteryear? Societal pressure/bullying has decreased.

Nothing is an absolute and nuances are always involved so don't be to sensitive about subjects.
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Re: WELCOME TO COUNTRY

Post by alexjones » 04 May 2025, 6:47 am

Die Judicii wrote:Alexjones ,, if you’ve ever bred or intend to i hope none of your children end up gay or transgender.


Nobody would want children with disabilities. But if they do I would get them proper medical treatment instead of encouraging the delusion.
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Re: WELCOME TO COUNTRY

Post by bigrich » 04 May 2025, 7:30 am

alexjones wrote:
Robin wrote:
alexjones wrote:I hate government telling people what to do but I like societal norms making people feel shame.

Shaming having babies out of wedlock is a good thing. These days being a single mother is a feminist ideal.

When we grew up people had a greater sense of shame and a greater moral compass which led to a greater sense of community.

Bring back shame and school bullying. When I went to school if a boy said he wanted to be a girl the other kids would of gave him a taste of reality.



You are a joke and too be honest, you should never be taken seriously.

Shaming having babies out of wedlock is a good thing. These days being a single mother is a feminist ideal - Why shame them, have you ever had sex before marriage, or are you one of those people who didn't have sex before marriage,, I'm sorry but I would say most of us have wet the line before marriage, it's not always the mothers fault that they become single, and even the mothers who have chosen to have kids on there own, how is that your problem, there are so many single mothers out there, who's kids are doing so well.

Bring back shame and school bullying. When I went to school if a boy said he wanted to be a girl the other kids would of gave him a taste of reality , I can't believe you just said that, that is so nasty, as someone who was bullied because I was different , I was skinny , super white and had learning difficulties, I was bullied for that, and it sticks to a person for a very long time, I was lucky as I had good parents, however not everyone had the support I had and some of them have killed them selves, Bullying in school or in any place is never ok, no matter how different they are, it is never ok, you don't know what is going on with that kid, and how hard it already is for them.

I think you are a total joke and get help because I think you need it.


I should get help? I think it is a joke how sensitive you are. Every metric tells us that single mothers are the worst households. Of course this not an absolute and there are nuances involved. Raising children in broken homes should not be encouraged. Yes it is not always the mothers fault, men should also do their responsibility to their children also.

I disagree. Societal pressure/bullying whatever you call it has advantages in keeping people from being weird. Would you feed into the delusions of someone with schizophrenia that the dog is talking to them? Or would you tell them they need medical help? Its the same thing.

Why is there so much weirdness today then in yesteryear? Societal pressure/bullying has decreased.

Nothing is an absolute and nuances are always involved so don't be to sensitive about subjects.


mate , i'm trying to refrain from opening your eyes about how truly ignorant and small minded your opinions on these subjects actually are . maybe when you become a parent you might realise just how wrong you are . i reckon you've p!ssed of a lot who are parents on this forum. your entitled to your veiw's , but i find them very cruel and heartless . you support bullying ? really? who decides what's weird and what's not ?. maybe it's you that's weird ;)

in past posts you've declared your strong support for freedom and self choice , yet here you are infringing on that , judging members of society who are victims of circumstance or just choose a different path . you've got a lot to learn mate . judge ye not, lest ye self be judged .......

now i expect you'll double down on your opinions , i'm starting to think you like attention for all the wrong reasons JMHO
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Re: WELCOME TO COUNTRY

Post by Wapiti » 04 May 2025, 7:31 am

I don't agree the topic has gotten off track.
You blokes should stop the hating on one another, this is exactly what "welcome to country" BS is supposed to achieve, to divide.

These disagreements are why more and more people are sick of being shamed and belittled by this "welcome to country" sham that is so politically agenda driven on us nowadays.
People have been deliberately split on what are "false morals".
"Welcome to country" is important to the socialists because, even though it's bullsh*t and Ernie Dingo dreamed it up for TV, that's all forgotten and it is done to deliberately shame and divide the country into accepting that we are to pay recompense for giving the primitive races here all the good stuff, which they hoover up and kill themselves with. Whilst on the other hand, hating us deliberately for it because they cannot self-manage.
Those of us who follow what is actively going on with the socialist idealism being rolled out worldwide do actually realise that this has been used very successfully to divide Australians, and shame them into accepting the wealth transfer that is happening.
On the Aboriginal Shame Industry, this has to happen so that Australians are shamed into accepting that they are the ones who need to make the wealth and have it taken away from them to support people who cannot actually rise up and use it.

Well, that's the smokescreen anyway. Yes, money is being poured into the Aboriginal Shame Industry in the form of unlimited funds for healthcare, housing, food and drink, all the while ignoring the fact that they are chopping and raping one another up daily, destroying the handouts they are given, and screaming for more. Whilst the bulk of the tax money stolen from the real people is sent overseas.

All the while, the white folks (term used loosely) don't get any help to climb back up from the misfortunes in life, families and single parents living in cars, eating 2-minute noodles, can't get healthcare, thrown out of their homes because they can't pay council rates or electricity bills.

How many people who have worked all their lives and paid taxes, and now cannot afford to have power switched on to their houses, or live on the streets now, are brought into ED's in ambulances, who have no decent food for ages, have had heart attacks sitting in freezing or overheated houses because they can't even afford the electricity to run a tiny fan? We f*cken have, too many times, and this is being hid from the fools who believe the garbage they're being fed. It's happening right now, in your suburbs, and you are being conned.

This is why this bloke despises "welcome to country" for the con that it is, and pitys the people who should be educated enough to realise it also.
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Re: WELCOME TO COUNTRY

Post by Wapiti » 04 May 2025, 7:33 am

And these stupid, self-interested c***s just voted the worst perpetrators of this con back in again to totally ruin us. FFS.
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Re: WELCOME TO COUNTRY

Post by bigrich » 04 May 2025, 7:36 am

Wapiti wrote:I don't agree the topic has gotten off track.
You blokes should stop the hating on one another, this is exactly what "welcome to country" BS is supposed to achieve, to divide.

These disagreements are why more and more people are sick of being shamed and belittled by this "welcome to country" sham that is so politically agenda driven on us nowadays.
People have been deliberately split on what are "false morals".
"Welcome to country" is important to the socialists because, even though it's bullsh*t and Ernie Dingo dreamed it up for TV, that's all forgotten and it is done to deliberately shame and divide the country into accepting that we are to pay recompense for giving the primitive races here all the good stuff, which they hoover up and kill themselves with. Whilst on the other hand, hating us deliberately for it because they cannot self-manage.
Those of us who follow what is actively going on with the socialist idealism being rolled out worldwide do actually realise that this has been used very successfully to divide Australians, and shame them into accepting the wealth transfer that is happening.
On the Aboriginal Shame Industry, this has to happen so that Australians are shamed into accepting that they are the ones who need to make the wealth and have it taken away from them to support people who cannot actually rise up and use it.

Well, that's the smokescreen anyway. Yes, money is being poured into the Aboriginal Shame Industry in the form of unlimited funds for healthcare, housing, food and drink, all the while ignoring the fact that they are chopping and raping one another up daily, destroying the handouts they are given, and screaming for more. Whilst the bulk of the tax money stolen from the real people is sent overseas.

All the while, the white folks (term used loosely) don't get any help to climb back up from the misfortunes in life, families and single parents living in cars, eating 2-minute noodles, can't get healthcare, thrown out of their homes because they can't pay council rates or electricity bills.

How many people who have worked all their lives and paid taxes, and now cannot afford to have power switched on to their houses, or live on the streets now, are brought into ED's in ambulances, who have no decent food for ages, have had heart attacks sitting in freezing or overheated houses because they can't even afford the electricity to run a tiny fan? We f*cken have, too many times, and this is being hid from the fools who believe the garbage they're being fed. It's happening right now, in your suburbs, and you are being conned.

This is why this bloke despises "welcome to country" for the con that it is, and pitys the people who should be educated enough to realise it also.


i agree with everything you've said in your post . and albo's just won the election so the bullsh!t will continue........ :cry:
however, i don't hate anyone, but i reserve the right to disagree :D
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Re: WELCOME TO COUNTRY

Post by Wapiti » 04 May 2025, 8:14 am

You expressed your opinion, based on your beliefs. Your moral beliefs are nothing you need to defend yourself for.
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Re: WELCOME TO COUNTRY

Post by Robin » 04 May 2025, 8:51 am

alexjones wrote:
Robin wrote:
alexjones wrote:I hate government telling people what to do but I like societal norms making people feel shame.

Shaming having babies out of wedlock is a good thing. These days being a single mother is a feminist ideal.

When we grew up people had a greater sense of shame and a greater moral compass which led to a greater sense of community.

Bring back shame and school bullying. When I went to school if a boy said he wanted to be a girl the other kids would of gave him a taste of reality.



You are a joke and too be honest, you should never be taken seriously.

Shaming having babies out of wedlock is a good thing. These days being a single mother is a feminist ideal - Why shame them, have you ever had sex before marriage, or are you one of those people who didn't have sex before marriage,, I'm sorry but I would say most of us have wet the line before marriage, it's not always the mothers fault that they become single, and even the mothers who have chosen to have kids on there own, how is that your problem, there are so many single mothers out there, who's kids are doing so well.



Bring back shame and school bullying. When I went to school if a boy said he wanted to be a girl the other kids would of gave him a taste of reality , I can't believe you just said that, that is so nasty, as someone who was bullied because I was different , I was skinny , super white and had learning difficulties, I was bullied for that, and it sticks to a person for a very long time, I was lucky as I had good parents, however not everyone had the support I had and some of them have killed them selves, Bullying in school or in any place is never ok, no matter how different they are, it is never ok, you don't know what is going on with that kid, and how hard it already is for them.

I think you are a total joke and get help because I think you need it.


I should get help? I think it is a joke how sensitive you are. Every metric tells us that single mothers are the worst households. Of course this not an absolute and there are nuances involved. Raising children in broken homes should not be encouraged. Yes it is not always the mothers fault, men should also do their responsibility to their children also.

I disagree. Societal pressure/bullying whatever you call it has advantages in keeping people from being weird. Would you feed into the delusions of someone with schizophrenia that the dog is talking to them? Or would you tell them they need medical help? Its the same thing.

Why is there so much weirdness today then in yesteryear? Societal pressure/bullying has decreased.

Nothing is an absolute and nuances are always involved so don't be to sensitive about subjects.



Your not worth responding to and this will be the last I respond to you , your very delusional with your views and I'm taking your advised because you are not right in the head, by telling you that you need professional help, now go take it while you have time, its there for you 24/7.
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Re: WELCOME TO COUNTRY

Post by alexjones » 04 May 2025, 9:29 am

Robin wrote:
alexjones wrote:
Robin wrote:
alexjones wrote:I hate government telling people what to do but I like societal norms making people feel shame.

Shaming having babies out of wedlock is a good thing. These days being a single mother is a feminist ideal.

When we grew up people had a greater sense of shame and a greater moral compass which led to a greater sense of community.

Bring back shame and school bullying. When I went to school if a boy said he wanted to be a girl the other kids would of gave him a taste of reality.



You are a joke and too be honest, you should never be taken seriously.

Shaming having babies out of wedlock is a good thing. These days being a single mother is a feminist ideal - Why shame them, have you ever had sex before marriage, or are you one of those people who didn't have sex before marriage,, I'm sorry but I would say most of us have wet the line before marriage, it's not always the mothers fault that they become single, and even the mothers who have chosen to have kids on there own, how is that your problem, there are so many single mothers out there, who's kids are doing so well.



Bring back shame and school bullying. When I went to school if a boy said he wanted to be a girl the other kids would of gave him a taste of reality , I can't believe you just said that, that is so nasty, as someone who was bullied because I was different , I was skinny , super white and had learning difficulties, I was bullied for that, and it sticks to a person for a very long time, I was lucky as I had good parents, however not everyone had the support I had and some of them have killed them selves, Bullying in school or in any place is never ok, no matter how different they are, it is never ok, you don't know what is going on with that kid, and how hard it already is for them.

I think you are a total joke and get help because I think you need it.


I should get help? I think it is a joke how sensitive you are. Every metric tells us that single mothers are the worst households. Of course this not an absolute and there are nuances involved. Raising children in broken homes should not be encouraged. Yes it is not always the mothers fault, men should also do their responsibility to their children also.

I disagree. Societal pressure/bullying whatever you call it has advantages in keeping people from being weird. Would you feed into the delusions of someone with schizophrenia that the dog is talking to them? Or would you tell them they need medical help? Its the same thing.

Why is there so much weirdness today then in yesteryear? Societal pressure/bullying has decreased.

Nothing is an absolute and nuances are always involved so don't be to sensitive about subjects.



Your not worth responding to and this will be the last I respond to you , your very delusional with your views and I'm taking your advised because you are not right in the head, by telling you that you need professional help, now go take it while you have time, its there for you 24/7.


Yes I am not right in the head because I think differently to you. How allegorical of you. :violin:
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Re: WELCOME TO COUNTRY

Post by alexjones » 04 May 2025, 9:33 am

bigrich wrote:
alexjones wrote:
Robin wrote:
alexjones wrote:I hate government telling people what to do but I like societal norms making people feel shame.

Shaming having babies out of wedlock is a good thing. These days being a single mother is a feminist ideal.

When we grew up people had a greater sense of shame and a greater moral compass which led to a greater sense of community.

Bring back shame and school bullying. When I went to school if a boy said he wanted to be a girl the other kids would of gave him a taste of reality.



You are a joke and too be honest, you should never be taken seriously.

Shaming having babies out of wedlock is a good thing. These days being a single mother is a feminist ideal - Why shame them, have you ever had sex before marriage, or are you one of those people who didn't have sex before marriage,, I'm sorry but I would say most of us have wet the line before marriage, it's not always the mothers fault that they become single, and even the mothers who have chosen to have kids on there own, how is that your problem, there are so many single mothers out there, who's kids are doing so well.

Bring back shame and school bullying. When I went to school if a boy said he wanted to be a girl the other kids would of gave him a taste of reality , I can't believe you just said that, that is so nasty, as someone who was bullied because I was different , I was skinny , super white and had learning difficulties, I was bullied for that, and it sticks to a person for a very long time, I was lucky as I had good parents, however not everyone had the support I had and some of them have killed them selves, Bullying in school or in any place is never ok, no matter how different they are, it is never ok, you don't know what is going on with that kid, and how hard it already is for them.

I think you are a total joke and get help because I think you need it.


I should get help? I think it is a joke how sensitive you are. Every metric tells us that single mothers are the worst households. Of course this not an absolute and there are nuances involved. Raising children in broken homes should not be encouraged. Yes it is not always the mothers fault, men should also do their responsibility to their children also.

I disagree. Societal pressure/bullying whatever you call it has advantages in keeping people from being weird. Would you feed into the delusions of someone with schizophrenia that the dog is talking to them? Or would you tell them they need medical help? Its the same thing.

Why is there so much weirdness today then in yesteryear? Societal pressure/bullying has decreased.

Nothing is an absolute and nuances are always involved so don't be to sensitive about subjects.


mate , i'm trying to refrain from opening your eyes about how truly ignorant and small minded your opinions on these subjects actually are . maybe when you become a parent you might realise just how wrong you are . i reckon you've p!ssed of a lot who are parents on this forum. your entitled to your veiw's , but i find them very cruel and heartless . you support bullying ? really? who decides what's weird and what's not ?. maybe it's you that's weird ;)

in past posts you've declared your strong support for freedom and self choice , yet here you are infringing on that , judging members of society who are victims of circumstance or just choose a different path . you've got a lot to learn mate . judge ye not, lest ye self be judged .......

now i expect you'll double down on your opinions , i'm starting to think you like attention for all the wrong reasons JMHO


Yes in some forms I support bullying/peer pressure whatever you want to use to describe it. You have said many times that yesteryear was better than current Australia. Schoolyard bullying and societal pressure plays a part in that.

I use to be very bad when I played footy as a kid and I made a few mistakes. Bullying from the other kids and my dad made me a better player because I wanted to show them I wasn't a loser. .
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Post by bigrich » 04 May 2025, 10:45 am

alexjones wrote:
Yes in some forms I support bullying/peer pressure whatever you want to use to describe it. You have said many times that yesteryear was better than current Australia. Schoolyard bullying and societal pressure plays a part in that.

I use to be very bad when I played footy as a kid and I made a few mistakes. Bullying from the other kids and my dad made me a better player because I wanted to show them I wasn't a loser. .


given the situation you describe of playing up when you played footy, i wouldn't define that as bullying . i would define that as moral based peer preasure . bullying to me is when a kid is unfairly harassed for the twisted entertainment ,or bias to someone's appearance , gender or whatever it is . you weren't bullied at footy to me , you were pulled up for bad behaviour and i don't have a problem with that . as for yesteryear being better , some things weren't .

me personally, i spent a lot of my childhood with my grandfather, and heard of growing up and living through the great depression and WW2 service . also instilled in me was a sense of personal honour, personal responsability , and maybe even a sense of chivalry . i was enrolled in primary school days after my 4th birthday so my divorced mother could work, was small for my size and was bullied . in my teenage years i grew to 6"4" and after getting into weight lifting as a confidence builder , ended up over 125kg at 21 and strong as a ox . but i've never stood over anyone in my life unless they really deserved it . i see it as a noble thing to protect the weak and disadvantaged in our society . if i was walking down the street and saw a group of @ssholes beating up on a gay i'd probably step in cause in my veiw it's just not right, not fair , not australian. :thumbsup:
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Post by Die Judicii » 04 May 2025, 11:28 am

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Die Judicii wrote:Alexjones ,, if you’ve ever bred or intend to i hope none of your children end up gay or transgender.


Nobody would want children with disabilities. But if they do I would get them proper medical treatment instead of encouraging the delusion.

Apart from other issues,, you come across as being pretty confused bloke. You come up with extremely simplistic and black or white responses, while at the same time trying to build escape routes for yourself constantly speaking of “nuances”.
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Post by Die Judicii » 04 May 2025, 12:05 pm

alexjones wrote:
Die Judicii wrote:Alexjones ,, if you’ve ever bred or intend to i hope none of your children end up gay or transgender.


Nobody would want children with disabilities. But if they do I would get them proper medical treatment instead of encouraging the delusion.

While your spreading your wisdom, praps you could tell us all what the “proper medical treatment” is that you speak of for a child with a disability, “nobody would want” ?? Like for example you have a son that is gay.
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Post by Die Judicii » 04 May 2025, 2:08 pm

Wapiti wrote:And these stupid, self-interested c***s just voted the worst perpetrators of this con back in again to totally ruin us. FFS.


Yes,,, it's happened, and your obviously disappointed by the fact Mate,, but so would an awful lot of others be, (on this forum anyways).
But unfortunately even if (theoretically) 99.9% of forum members tried to vote em out,, it still wouldn't be enough to overcome what so many of the people outside of the way we shooters thought and voted.

The general public still need more and more education, to hopefully remove the paranoia concerning firearms at the very least.
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Post by Bugman » 04 May 2025, 2:46 pm

Die Judicii wrote:
Wapiti wrote:And these stupid, self-interested c***s just voted the worst perpetrators of this con back in again to totally ruin us. FFS.


Yes,,, it's happened, and your obviously disappointed by the fact Mate,, but so would an awful lot of others be, (on this forum anyways).
But unfortunately even if (theoretically) 99.9% of forum members tried to vote em out,, it still wouldn't be enough to overcome what so many of the people outside of the way we shooters thought and voted.

The general public still need more and more education, to hopefully remove the paranoia concerning firearms at the very least.


Well we are now stuck with them for the next three years. They will stumble and bumble along but it is the economic damage
they create along the way that concerns me. :shock:
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Post by Strangedog » 04 May 2025, 10:59 pm

So f***ing over WTC, more identity politics dividing the people of this country. Why do the leaders of this country stand in front of three flags? Does any other nation do this? A very disapointing election result. The woke mind virus is still spreading in this country and we are yet to reach peak woke. With Pissy Pants Albo and Sir penny Wong at the helm it will be interesting to see the on coming crap in the next few years. As someone eluded to, America reached peak woke and voted in an Arsehole to be rid of it. It didn't happen for us this time around but here's hoping for three years time. I'd take an arsehole over this s**t any day.
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Re: WELCOME TO COUNTRY

Post by alexjones » 05 May 2025, 6:33 am

Die Judicii wrote:
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Die Judicii wrote:Alexjones ,, if you’ve ever bred or intend to i hope none of your children end up gay or transgender.


Nobody would want children with disabilities. But if they do I would get them proper medical treatment instead of encouraging the delusion.

While your spreading your wisdom, praps you could tell us all what the “proper medical treatment” is that you speak of for a child with a disability, “nobody would want” ?? Like for example you have a son that is gay.


There is a rehab treatment centre on the Gold Coast. I am sure there would be plenty others in this country if you looked for them. I know in America they have heaps.
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Post by Wapiti » 05 May 2025, 8:01 am

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Wapiti wrote:And these stupid, self-interested c***s just voted the worst perpetrators of this con back in again to totally ruin us. FFS.


Yes,,, it's happened, and your obviously disappointed by the fact Mate,, but so would an awful lot of others be, (on this forum anyways).
But unfortunately even if (theoretically) 99.9% of forum members tried to vote em out,, it still wouldn't be enough to overcome what so many of the people outside of the way we shooters thought and voted.

The general public still need more and more education, to hopefully remove the paranoia concerning firearms at the very least.


Yes your words are spot on. Nothing here that anyone can say or do will change anyone's mind, other than make a statement about one's own standards or opinions. A drop of water in a 44 gallon drum won't even show.
People's own life experiences and choices, maybe even the influence of peers or family, set the path they are on in life. I know I can't change them, but I'd feel like a prostitute if I at least wasn't true to my own experience and choices that lead to my thoughts on it all and stand by them.
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Post by Wapiti » 05 May 2025, 8:11 am

People talk about bullying,
"Welcome to Country" being rammed down our throats is very much a form of bullying, and like all forms of it, people have every right to stand up against it.

For ages, politicians have been competing with one another (and doing nothing) about domestic violence. One of the main points is that it isn't just physical, it's financial, verbal and psychological - guilt tripping someone into being manipulated for personal gain or pleasure, or even just personal narcissism.

That's what this "Welcome to Country" cr@p really is, it is to shame, to manipulate, to create false narratives - all to shame the people who actually sweated blood into paying even more taxes to support people who won't pull themselves from the gutter, no matter how much money is given to them. It's guilt in disguise of wealth redistribution.
It is a perfect example of bullying, exactly the kind that the politicians get on their high horses about when it's happening between everyday Aussies, but apparently not when they do it to us in this welcome to country scam.
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Post by Robin » 05 May 2025, 8:55 am

Wapiti wrote:People talk about bullying,
"Welcome to Country" being rammed down our throats is very much a form of bullying, and like all forms of it, people have every right to stand up against it.

For ages, politicians have been competing with one another (and doing nothing) about domestic violence. One of the main points is that it isn't just physical, it's financial, verbal and psychological - guilt tripping someone into being manipulated for personal gain or pleasure, or even just personal narcissism.

That's what this "Welcome to Country" cr@p really is, it is to shame, to manipulate, to create false narratives - all to shame the people who actually sweated blood into paying even more taxes to support people who won't pull themselves from the gutter, no matter how much money is given to them. It's guilt in disguise of wealth redistribution.
It is a perfect example of bullying, exactly the kind that the politicians get on their high horses about when it's happening between everyday Aussies, but apparently not when they do it to us in this welcome to country scam.


I strongly oppose bullying in any form, and I believe that our country's leaders should set a better example. When it comes to Welcome to Country, I personally don't find it to be an effective approach to acknowledging Indigenous Australians. There are many ways to recognize and respect Aboriginal communities, but I feel that Welcome to Country may not be the right one.

There are many hardworking Aboriginal individuals, but unfortunately, negative stereotypes persist due to ongoing issues that stem from complex social and familial cycles. I believe more support is needed to help those affected break these cycles, though I’m unsure what the best approach would be. I don’t think Welcome to Country addresses these challenges, and at times, I wonder if stronger intervention is needed in certain remote areas.

Domestic violence is a serious problem worldwide, affecting both men and women. More action should be taken to prevent it, but governments often focus on discussion rather than solutions. On my end, I focus on educating my son about respect—regardless of differences—and teaching him to manage his emotions wisely, ensuring that anger never leads to harmful decisions.
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Post by Die Judicii » 05 May 2025, 11:28 am

alexjones wrote:
There is a rehab treatment centre on the Gold Coast. I am sure there would be plenty others in this country if you looked for them. I know in America they have heaps.

So,, in your mind you advocate that a rehab session or sessions will “fix” a person who is gay ? Kind of like,, lets pull their brain out and rewire it ? You need to face realities in life there bloke. You made an earlier reference that there are more gay people nowadays because they haven’t had “it” bullied out of them, or words to that effect. Ever stopped to think that they have been around since the beginning of time,,, but had to hide because of people with views such as yours.
I do not fear death itself... Only its inopportune timing!
And,,,,It's been proven,,,,, the most trustworthy females in my entire life were all canines.
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Post by Robin » 05 May 2025, 12:27 pm

Die Judicii wrote:
alexjones wrote:
There is a rehab treatment centre on the Gold Coast. I am sure there would be plenty others in this country if you looked for them. I know in America they have heaps.

So,, in your mind you advocate that a rehab session or sessions will “fix” a person who is gay ? Kind of like,, lets pull their brain out and rewire it ? You need to face realities in life there bloke. You made an earlier reference that there are more gay people nowadays because they haven’t had “it” bullied out of them, or words to that effect. Ever stopped to think that they have been around since the beginning of time,,, but had to hide because of people with views such as yours.


Mate, I wouldn’t waste your time on alexjones, he’s had too many shocks to the brain to be able to function as a human .
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Post by Robin » 05 May 2025, 12:34 pm

Die Judicii wrote:
alexjones wrote:
There is a rehab treatment centre on the Gold Coast. I am sure there would be plenty others in this country if you looked for them. I know in America they have heaps.

So,, in your mind you advocate that a rehab session or sessions will “fix” a person who is gay ? Kind of like,, lets pull their brain out and rewire it ? You need to face realities in life there bloke. You made an earlier reference that there are more gay people nowadays because they haven’t had “it” bullied out of them, or words to that effect. Ever stopped to think that they have been around since the beginning of time,,, but had to hide because of people with views such as yours.


Mate, I wouldn’t waste your time on alexjones, he’s had too many shocks to the brain to be able to function as a human .
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Post by alexjones » 05 May 2025, 1:20 pm

Die Judicii wrote:
alexjones wrote:
There is a rehab treatment centre on the Gold Coast. I am sure there would be plenty others in this country if you looked for them. I know in America they have heaps.

So,, in your mind you advocate that a rehab session or sessions will “fix” a person who is gay ? Kind of like,, lets pull their brain out and rewire it ? You need to face realities in life there bloke. You made an earlier reference that there are more gay people nowadays because they haven’t had “it” bullied out of them, or words to that effect. Ever stopped to think that they have been around since the beginning of time,,, but had to hide because of people with views such as yours.


Mate you are overthinking things. Why do the rehab centres exist? Clearly the subjects who use the services want to heal themselves and better their life or there would be no financial viability for the centres to operate now would they?

I suggest you learn about the economic concept of supply verses demand.

I also never said there is more gays I said there is more "weird" people. Weirdness and delusions of grandeur are tolerated a lot more then when we were kids.

If a boy wore a dress and pretended to be a girl when I went to school he would hope that he could throw down like Mike Tyson. These days I have seen it on TV where it is encouraged for boys to wear dresses like a women.
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Post by alexjones » 05 May 2025, 1:21 pm

Robin wrote:
Die Judicii wrote:
alexjones wrote:
There is a rehab treatment centre on the Gold Coast. I am sure there would be plenty others in this country if you looked for them. I know in America they have heaps.

So,, in your mind you advocate that a rehab session or sessions will “fix” a person who is gay ? Kind of like,, lets pull their brain out and rewire it ? You need to face realities in life there bloke. You made an earlier reference that there are more gay people nowadays because they haven’t had “it” bullied out of them, or words to that effect. Ever stopped to think that they have been around since the beginning of time,,, but had to hide because of people with views such as yours.


Mate, I wouldn’t waste your time on alexjones, he’s had too many shocks to the brain to be able to function as a human .


Good old personal insults. The refuge of the lack of a solid argument. :violin:
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Post by Wapiti » 05 May 2025, 3:06 pm

See how this bullsh*t is designed to separate and divide even similar-interest groups?
FMD. I rest my case.

I'm off to check zero on the buggy gun. I shot a few jaws off yesterday, somethings up. Just as well I check everything.
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Post by str8shutr » 05 May 2025, 5:59 pm

To offer a contrary viewpoint, I actually enjoy a WTC :welcome: done well.

WTCs that are succinct and deliver a positive message can help inform those attending the relevant event, about the country's indigenous history. For me, that's a good thing.

There's a lot of darkness associated with the history of interaction between colonial Britain and indigenous Australians. So positive actions, however small, have the potential to deal with that darkness in small ways over time.

There's a comment above from one respondent about liking "societal norms making people feel shame" and "a greater sense of shame and a greater moral compass [leads] to a greater sense of community". One could argue that shame should be a key element to a WTC event (consider the dark history that you can research yourself). I'm glad that it's not, because I don't think that it would serve a positive purpose.

To that point, I'd argue that because it doesn't, there's an invitation of community at the heart of a WTC, which is a fundamental part of why I generally support the idea of a WTC. So, maybe looking at the concept from the perspective of growing/maintaining a sense of community may help in the time it takes for the game to start (or whatever event it's relevant to) .. :thumbsup:

If that doesn't work for you, then the results of the recent election and the initial statements in Albo's victory speech:
https://youtu.be/LXYKlSVZsvo?t=314
mean that you'll just have to stick your fingers in your ears until there's a major change in Australia's political landscape. Because with the collapse of the Libs thanks to Dutton and Taylor, we'll be living with this sort of ceremony for the foreseeable future I suspect.
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