Has it always been this way on this forum?

[jezzab]

I've only been here 6 months, Reddit doesnt really float my boat (but there are a few diamonds in the rough), hate Facebook now days (was a great tool when I needed it business wise and the old days for family connects) and dont use it, and a couple of other forums dont really blow my hair back but I saw this place as a wealth of knowlege and a more "mature" userbase.

I got into firearm ownership later in life (im 45) but did have experiences with them growing up, now its become a necessity where I live and also a sport.

Over the six months I have been on this forum I have had people help me with a plethora of knowlege. They have helped me understand and put up with some of my strange an silly questions and I have even spoken to a couple of the phone. So greatful and I've learned so much and still have much more to learn (the more you know the more you realize you dont know)

BUT...

What the hell is going on now days with few people on here, im seeing:

Passive agressive comments
Sneaky snide comments
Comments on every post after an altrication, deliberately trying to undermind the person they dont agree with
Megalomaniacy
Back peddling with a barrage of irrelevent facts to mask the original answer
Full blown backlash comments

The list goes on....

So, was it always like this? I doubt it based on I see people with 12,000 posts. This isnt the first forum I've been on and I know things happen but this is pretty agressive at the moment by my standards (you should see car forums, its a blood bath. Bitchiest sport every)

If its dick measuring contest then PM em them with a picture against a ruler and be done with it

Anyway, no one probably gives a s**t but its becoming pretty obvious. I thought it was maybe the full moon for a while but we have had 2 or 3 of them now lol

[Bugman]

Sadly that appears to be the case with some members. I took a break for about a year and came hoping things may have mellowed.
Not the case. I have a great deal of faith in some regular contributors, as, although a shooter, reloader etc for over 50 years, some of the info offered has been welcomed.
Yes, I have gotten my "dander" up on occasions and had a dig at some of the idiots and their comments, but that really was just to vent my frustration. Mostly now I just ignore the dumb minority and move on.

[womble]

Where’s my ruler when I need it

[jezzab]

Where’s my ruler when I need it

I use millimetres, always sounds bugger...

[MG5150]

Everyone seems to be wound up and agitated and it's spilling from one platform to the other. Facebook has become especially hostile with everyone at eachother's throats all the time for any reason. Tribal mindset from the recent elections is spilling into every other facet of life.

[Oldbloke]

Where’s my ruler when I need it

I use millimetres, always sounds bugger...

How come you know that trick?

[jezzab]

Where’s my ruler when I need it

I use millimetres, always sounds bugger...

How come you know that trick?

I'm not proud of my past haha
This one time at band camp....

[deye243]

Where’s my ruler when I need it

I use millimetres, always sounds bugger...

Yes the Americans are like that too too have you noticed on these TV shows it's tens of thousands of pounds instead of tones and it's thousands of feet instead of yards they don't like small numbers

[jezzab]

Where’s my ruler when I need it

I use millimetres, always sounds bugger...

Yes the Americans are like that too too have you noticed on these TV shows it's tens of thousands of pounds instead of tones and it's thousands of feet instead of yards they don't like small numbers

Funny change isn't it, I grew up on Stones since we didn't want _those_ numbers bigger

[Ballistix]

Seems to be. There are some people who are not constructive, and every thing that you post is an opportunity for them to denigrate.. not everything is zero sum, people can contribute without it being a competition. I don't like the shutting down of ideas before they are fully developed as it prevents a genuine discussion.

[womble]

We need more disciplinary action.

On one wheel and Wapiti. 20 push ups each.

No I don’t care who started it.

[Oldbloke]

It's out of character for On one wheel to get so excited. I'm guessing he isn't well.

[Wapiti]

We need more disciplinary action.

On one wheel and Wapiti. 20 push ups each.

No I don’t care who started it.

Mate I was just putting forward a idea, an approach and trying to inform others, and contribute innocently to this forum with something different.
Yes, maybe I should've ignored the trolling of not just one of my posts by the same bloke, but a few topics now.

But if I'm belittled, do I have a right to reply?
Ok, next time I'll just leave it alone. I just reacted the same way I would do so in the street.

Oh, and when I see it going on between others, I'll chip in and try and defuse or put things back on track. Check that up too.

So, 20 pushups done, but just to prove a point, I did them decline with my toes on a 400mm high bench press bench.

[Wapiti]

We need more disciplinary action.

On one wheel and Wapiti. 20 push ups each.

No I don’t care who started it.

Mate I was just putting forward a idea, an approach and trying to inform others, and contribute innocently to this forum with something different.
Yes, maybe I should've ignored the trolling of not just one of my posts by the same bloke, but a few topics now.

But if I'm belittled, do I have a right to reply?
Ok, next time I'll just leave it alone. I just reacted the same way I would do so in the street.

Oh, and when I see it going on between others, I'll chip in and try and defuse or put things back on track. Check that up too. Edit: I just hate bullies, even on the internet.

So, 20 pushups done, but just to prove a point, I did them decline with my toes on a 400mm high bench press bench.

[GQshayne]

I reckon that the main issue is discussion of regulations/politics/NSC/Shooters Union etc etc. And when we don't agree, then we disagree LOL. And I think that is reflective of the issues we face, and why we do not have a united front against the anti's.

I don't have the answer, wish I did. It's not a new problem.

[deye243]

It's not Primary School and not everybody is well just Harden your skin up a little bit and move on

[womble]

I reckon that the main issue is discussion of regulations/politics/NSC/Shooters Union etc etc. And when we don't agree, then we disagree LOL. And I think that is reflective of the issues we face, and why we do not have a united front against the anti's.

I don't have the answer, wish I did. It's not a new problem.

No this is the new plan. We’re all brothers in arms now. I could give you a long list of gun groups and people involved that I dislike heartily.

Irrelevant. You put them first now. Perhaps begrudgingly but nevertheless it’s absolutely necessary now.

What’s happening in WA is coming to us all. No doubts anymore. I don’t think what they’re doing is currently constitutional. But it will be when it’s nationwide. So it’s happening and happening fast.

So yep. Now we advocate for people might personally hate. Including complete idiots. We’re all on the same boat. We need all hands on deck.

[bigrich]

I've only been here 6 months, Reddit doesnt really float my boat (but there are a few diamonds in the rough), hate Facebook now days (was a great tool when I needed it business wise and the old days for family connects) and dont use it, and a couple of other forums dont really blow my hair back but I saw this place as a wealth of knowlege and a more "mature" userbase.

I got into firearm ownership later in life (im 45) but did have experiences with them growing up, now its become a necessity where I live and also a sport.

Over the six months I have been on this forum I have had people help me with a plethora of knowlege. They have helped me understand and put up with some of my strange an silly questions and I have even spoken to a couple of the phone. So greatful and I've learned so much and still have much more to learn (the more you know the more you realize you dont know)

BUT...

What the hell is going on now days with few people on here, im seeing:

Passive agressive comments
Sneaky snide comments
Comments on every post after an altrication, deliberately trying to undermind the person they dont agree with
Megalomaniacy
Back peddling with a barrage of irrelevent facts to mask the original answer
Full blown backlash comments

The list goes on....

So, was it always like this? I doubt it based on I see people with 12,000 posts. This isnt the first forum I've been on and I know things happen but this is pretty agressive at the moment by my standards (you should see car forums, its a blood bath. Bitchiest sport every)

If its dick measuring contest then PM em them with a picture against a ruler and be done with it

Anyway, no one probably gives a s**t but its becoming pretty obvious. I thought it was maybe the full moon for a while but we have had 2 or 3 of them now lol

i've been on this forum for a few years now , and some past members were far worse than what you've seen recently mate . this forum is the only social media i do , there's some good fellas on here . i've been on a lot of overseas firearms forums and they don't carry on like some on this forum . i actually find it a bit embarrassing at the thought that people from other countries might see this forum and see the childish, nasty carry on that some on here sink to

[bigrich]

It's not Primary School and not everybody is well just Harden your skin up a little bit and move on

i agree , getting sucked into a pointless slanging match of insults should be beneath the principles of men . leave the trolling to teenagers on facebook

[Die Judicii]

No this is the new plan. We’re all brothers in arms now. I could give you a long list of gun groups and people involved that I dislike heartily.

Irrelevant. You put them first now. Perhaps begrudgingly but nevertheless it’s absolutely necessary now.

What’s happening in WA is coming to us all. No doubts anymore. I don’t think what they’re doing is currently constitutional. But it will be when it’s nationwide. So it’s happening and happening fast.

So yep. Now we advocate for people might personally hate. Including complete idiots. We’re all on the same boat. We need all hands on deck.

Well said Mate,,

[Oldbloke]

I think on many forums, for every poster there are 30 or 40 lookers

[Billo]

Not a single one of you had the guts or the brains to actually engage with what I said, just the usual suspects, feathers ruffled, faking outrage like it's some noble cause. Bigrich rolled out his tired victim routine like it’s the first time he’s heard a hard truth, Billo threw a dummy spit and called it loyalty, and the rest lined up to slap each other on the back like that somehow proved a point. It did — you’re losers and everyone is laughing at you.

No substance. No counterargument. Just the same recycled chest-beating that’s turned this place into a ghost town with a post counter.

This isn’t a forum anymore, it’s a retirement village for fragile egos with nothing better to do. And the saddest part? You’re so far up yourselves you actually think you’re keeping it alive, when really, you’re the dead weight dragging it down.

You didn’t just prove me right, you put it in bold, underlined it, and signed your names underneath..

So you come here with some sort of axe to grind, what's with the anger Judy ?? cause punch is asleep

[womble]

Always gets juicy on Saturday nights op.

Pro tip hold till morning to have the last word.

But you have to time it right. Just before the cleaners get up.

And then you strike hard, in the dead of morning , for the glory .

[womble]

I think on many forums, for every poster there are 30 or 40 lookers

But ours includes federal police. Which is fine. Nothing to see here officer.

[womble]

Glorious

[bigrich]

Always gets juicy on Saturday nights op.

Pro tip hold till morning to have the last word.

But you have to time it right. Just before the cleaners get up.

And then you strike hard, in the dead of morning , for the glory .

just following your advice mate

nah , i normally wake up at 3:30 to get ready for work

[womble]

Same I cant help it.

I will say this and not directed at anyone in particular.

I believe the first step to admitting you have a problem is admitting you are the problem, or something like that.

And seeking validation in your life from conflict is not a good habit.

And there you go. That’s our typical Saturday night Jerry Springer show op

[bigrich]

Same I cant help it.

I will say this and not directed at anyone in particular.

I believe the first step to admitting you have a problem is admitting you are the problem, or something like that.

And seeking validation in your life from conflict is not a good habit.

And there you go. That’s our typical Saturday night Jerry Springer show op

taking responsibility for your actions is the biggest shortcoming in this modern world IMHO. people say and do things then try to flip it onto others

also, an old quote, "know thyself and be set free ....."

[dagedsta]

I think that as in everywhere in life, we will come across a multitude of different folks. All have their place and you nor I have to like it. It's just the way it is.
My experience has been mostly positive and people have helped me without snide or sarcastic commentary. Frankly if they had, I wouldn't have minded.
Live and let live, buddy. Everything goes.
Pull up your big boy panties and do what you would in public .. filter and move on. And be reminded that words do not hurt people. We are not woke. We do not cry when someone flips us the bird. We have a giggle and go 'legend', and 'grab that c*** a beer'!!!
We tend to lean into free speech, freedom of expression, freedoms in general. And firearms. Right? Some of us might even feel it necessary to fight for those rights. And on that basis aren't we better off being a little more accepting of those we may differ with from time to time?
How about we practice what we preach?
At the end of the day we all have much more in common than not.
Our differences are what makes things interesting. Wouldn't it be a bland and boring old place if everyone were the same? So bitch, moan, throw shade and sarcasm or otherwise. It's all good and all welcome afaic.
Now, how about that beer?

[bigrich]

I think that as in everywhere in life, we will come across a multitude of different folks. All have their place and you nor I have to like it. It's just the way it is.
My experience has been mostly positive and people have helped me without snide or sarcastic commentary. Frankly if they had, I wouldn't have minded.
Live and let live, buddy. Everything goes.
Pull up your big boy panties and do what you would in public .. filter and move on. And be reminded that words do not hurt people. We are not woke. We do not cry when someone flips us the bird. We have a giggle and go 'legend', and 'grab that c*** a beer'!!!
We tend to lean into free speech, freedom of expression, freedoms in general. And firearms. Right? Some of us might even feel it necessary to fight for those rights. And on that basis aren't we better off being a little more accepting of those we may differ with from time to time?
How about we practice what we preach?
At the end of the day we all have much more in common than not.
Our differences are what makes things interesting. Wouldn't it be a bland and boring old place if everyone were the same? So bitch, moan, throw shade and sarcasm or otherwise. It's all good and all welcome afaic.
Now, how about that beer?

good attitude and well said . now go get yourself that beer