What happened to adult crime adult time

[womble]

Emma Lovell’s killer got 14 years. A soft sentence under the previous Labor government that many of us found disgusting.

Now it’s been reduced again, to 8 years 4 months minimum. Another heartless kick in the guts for the family.
This scum will now be back on the streets in 5 years.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/aug/15/teenager-who-murdered-emma-lovell-has-sentence-reduced-on-appeal-ntwnfb

[bigrich]

Emma Lovell’s killer got 14 years. A soft sentence under the previous Labor government that many of us found disgusting.

Now it’s been reduced again, to 8 years 4 months minimum. Another heartless kick in the guts for the family.
This scum will now be back on the streets in 5 years.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/aug/15/teenager-who-murdered-emma-lovell-has-sentence-reduced-on-appeal-ntwnfb

disgusting . the scumbag should've got 25 years in my personal opinion . hard labour .

[womble]

That’s a reasonable expectation and an effective solution.

[deye243]

Life never to see freedom ever again

[bigrich]

Life never to see freedom ever again

if you intentionally took a life, you'd forfeit your own . that's what justice used to be . a eye for a eye . now scumbags like this one get stuff all . where's the deterrent against committing crime . auntie pauline wants to bring back the death penalty for these sorts of crimes . i agree

[Wapiti]

How can anyone expect a fair outcome for the public when even after bringing in "tougher" laws, the judges deliberately soften the sentences and look to the criminals well-being instead of the victims?
"How dare a politician make the decision of me, the all important Judge? I'll show them!"
We all know what the judges and senior police like to do in their spare time don't we? Try as they might, the truth always comes out, as much as so many like to hide from us. Those who are aware see it bubbling away.

[womble]

How can anyone expect a fair outcome for the public when even after bringing in "tougher" laws, the judges deliberately soften the sentences and look to the criminals well-being instead of the victims?
"How dare a politician make the decision of me, the all important Judge? I'll show them!"
We all know what the judges and senior police like to do in their spare time don't we? Try as they might, the truth always comes out, as much as so many like to hide from us. Those who are aware see it bubbling away.

Well that’s easy and once again your ignorance dribbles out.
When you bring in your tough new laws you bring in tough minimum sentencing.
Unlike Chrisofulloshit who only increased maximum sentencing.
The judges don’t make the laws.

[bigrich]

How can anyone expect a fair outcome for the public when even after bringing in "tougher" laws, the judges deliberately soften the sentences and look to the criminals well-being instead of the victims?
"How dare a politician make the decision of me, the all important Judge? I'll show them!"
We all know what the judges and senior police like to do in their spare time don't we? Try as they might, the truth always comes out, as much as so many like to hide from us. Those who are aware see it bubbling away.

Well that’s easy and once again your ignorance dribbles out.
When you bring in your tough new laws you bring in tough minimum sentencing.
Unlike Chrisofulloshit who only increased maximum sentencing.
The judges don’t make the laws.

it's judges that administer the law . yes ,the maximum was increased not the minimum by chrisofulli . it's the judges opting for the minimum sentence that are letting us down

[Die Judicii]

Life never to see freedom ever again

if you intentionally took a life, you'd forfeit your own . that's what justice used to be . a eye for a eye . now scumbags like this one get stuff all . where's the deterrent against committing crime . auntie pauline wants to bring back the death penalty for these sorts of crimes . i agree

Spot on Mate,,,,,,,,,,
An eye for an eye.
Bring back the death penalty and ease the burden both prison space,, and financially.

[deye243]

I agree with the death penalty but only if you are caught in the act too many people have been executed for crimes they never committed because they were convicted on evidence only

[bigrich]

I agree with the death penalty but only if you are caught in the act too many people have been executed for crimes they never committed because they were convicted on evidence only

that is true . the death penalty for heinous crimes should only be applied when guilt is proven beyond ALL DOUBT . the law gets it wrong, lindey chamberlan is a prime example . i saw a doco on channel 7 by a retired police investigator on the falconio murder . i reckon they got the wrong guy . convicted him cause he had history to wrap up the case . if you can find the doco i'm talking about watch it . very compelling

[Wapiti]

Just on the news this morning, coppers on the Gold Coast looking for some human scum that ran over a 50+YO lady when stealing her car, she's in a critical condition in hospital.
These c***s do not deserve time in jail. "Adult" or adequate time. They should be hung from the nearest light pole where they destroyed a family by the neck until they rot enough to drop onto the footpath from their deserved punishment and are scraped up into a garbage compactor by a bobcat.

[bigrich]

Just on the news this morning, coppers on the Gold Coast looking for some human scum that ran over a 50+YO lady when stealing her car, she's in a critical condition in hospital.
These c***s do not deserve time in jail. "Adult" or adequate time. They should be hung from the nearest light pole where they destroyed a family by the neck until they rot enough to drop onto the footpath from their deserved punishment and are scraped up into a garbage compactor by a bobcat.

you wouldn't have crims doing this stuff if the consequences you list above where implemented . maybe forget the hanging and use the bobcat but it's all hypothetical as we are law abiding citizens and gun owners . betcha these sh!ts get bail

[Wapiti]

The hanging part is the bit that would deter would -be delinquents.
Most of these society-manufactured germs are showoffs and terribly precious and vain. Posting illegal behaviour to show off on social media, prissing around like pomptuous kings and queens, it's all about building up a fake narrative for otherwise pointless oxygen thieves.
Being hung naked from a post at an intersection and having the public seeing their tiny appendages would terrify them more than the slow process of them carking it slowly from exposure hanging there.
People who would do the act I described earlier that just happened, which also destroys a whole family unit forever, deserve no mercy, or second chances.
I'm talking about an obvious deliberate act here, proven without doubt.
The people denying true justice, the people who make the decisions not to punish animals like these are the cause of any and all repetition in our society.

[bigrich]

The hanging part is the bit that would deter would -be delinquents.
Most of these society-manufactured germs are showoffs and terribly precious and vain. Posting illegal behaviour to show off on social media, prissing around like pomptuous kings and queens, it's all about building up a fake narrative for otherwise pointless oxygen thieves.
Being hung naked from a post at an intersection and having the public seeing their tiny appendages would terrify them more than the slow process of them carking it slowly from exposure hanging there.
People who would do the act I described earlier that just happened, which also destroys a whole family unit forever, deserve no mercy, or second chances.
I'm talking about an obvious deliberate act here, proven without doubt.
The people denying true justice, the people who make the decisions not to punish animals like these are the cause of any and all repetition in our society.

mate, i agree and sympathise with your views , but in this modern world we have to be careful about what we post on the internet . i know we're supposed to be a free country, free speach and all, but some woke/left thinking guv'ment employee or visitor to this forum might find offence about hanging crims from a lamp post . yeah i know "f@ck 'em" , but with the increasing scrutiny of LFAO's we have to be careful

[Wapiti]

I think you're missing my point Rich.
I'm not saying I would be a vigilante - I never said that so why am I a danger who has to keep quiet?
I would be called a lunatic or danger to society whatever else the people who let crims ruin all your lives use as an excuse to do nothing.
Everyone knows why this sh*t is happening, grubs have no fear and do what they like. Over and over.

Yeah, hanging someone from a light pole is not acceptable in a supposed "civilised" society, but you tell me that if some grub run over your wife stealing your car, a repeat offender that has been let off time and time again by the sick judges that are supposed to dish out "punishment and deterrents", you wouldn't want justice?
What you and I see as justice might be different.

F**k, some of you would call it a thought crime to even dream about revenge, I can only imagine how terrible it would be to be a relative of a victim like that knowing that everyone is shaking in their shoes even thinking of demanding just punishment.

[alexjones]

Magistrates, judges, justices whatever title they want should be an elected position. The judiciary is an important part of government and they are unelected and unaccountable to the people!!!

If their job was on the line every X amount of years, they would adhere to community expectations.

[bigrich]

I think you're missing my point Rich.
I'm not saying I would be a vigilante - I never said that so why am I a danger who has to keep quiet?
I would be called a lunatic or danger to society whatever else the people who let crims ruin all your lives use as an excuse to do nothing.
Everyone knows why this sh*t is happening, grubs have no fear and do what they like. Over and over.

Yeah, hanging someone from a light pole is not acceptable in a supposed "civilised" society, but you tell me that if some grub run over your wife stealing your car, a repeat offender that has been let off time and time again by the sick judges that are supposed to dish out "punishment and deterrents", you wouldn't want justice?
What you and I see as justice might be different.

F**k, some of you would call it a thought crime to even dream about revenge, I can only imagine how terrible it would be to be a relative of a victim like that knowing that everyone is shaking in their shoes even thinking of demanding just punishment.

I didn’t miss your point mate, just saying ya gotta be careful what you post in this modern woke world as it can come back to bite you on the arse. I agree with what you’re saying

[bigrich]

Magistrates, judges, justices whatever title they want should be an elected position. The judiciary is an important part of government and they are unelected and unaccountable to the people!!!

If their job was on the line every X amount of years, they would adhere to community expectations.

I agree. This view of electing judges was put forward to me by my local MP years ago

[womble]

Magistrates, judges, justices whatever title they want should be an elected position. The judiciary is an important part of government and they are unelected and unaccountable to the people!!!

If their job was on the line every X amount of years, they would adhere to community expectations.

I'd argue that community expectations is constitutional.
Judged by a jury of their peers.

[bigrich]

Magistrates, judges, justices whatever title they want should be an elected position. The judiciary is an important part of government and they are unelected and unaccountable to the people!!!

If their job was on the line every X amount of years, they would adhere to community expectations.

I'd argue that community expectations is constitutional.
Judged by a jury of their peers.

I reckon we reintroduce mob justice and bounty hunters lol

[womble]

Magistrates, judges, justices whatever title they want should be an elected position. The judiciary is an important part of government and they are unelected and unaccountable to the people!!!

If their job was on the line every X amount of years, they would adhere to community expectations.

I'd argue that community expectations is constitutional.
Judged by a jury of their peers.

I reckon we reintroduce mob justice and bounty hunters lol

Your peers in society should decide what's just.
Not some panel of sociologists with their expertise in recidivism and rehabilitation and university degrees.
Even if they are right it's irrelevant.
It's the opinion of your peers that should be applied.
Rehabilitation is an opportunity given. Take it or leave it.

[Wapiti]

Now again, in the sh*thole that is now Melbourne, a pedestrian was run over in the city by some human dead-weights in another stolen car.
As long as these sub-human trash are allowed to pleasure the judges in their rooms prior to the court hearings, this will never stop.
I have a few ideas about stopping it within days, but the stupid, soft public value the lives of these pointless organisms over beautiful innocent folk. Folk just trying to stay above water despite the scum they voted into power.

[Robin]

It's all well and good to make laws tougher, but what we really need are mandatory sentences. That way, judges will be required to impose them, regardless of personal opinions.
I’m not a supporter of the death penalty because too many people have been executed and later found innocent. However, if there's absolutely no doubt about someone's guilt, then I support it.
I'd prefer a justice system more like Singapore's—clear consequences for specific actions. If you commit a crime, this is what will happen, not what might happen.
Our biggest problem is that human rights groups always dominate the conversation, and it's weakening our society.