American Sniper First Trailer

[Baldrick314]

I just saw the first trailer for American Sniper, the movie version of Chris Kyle's autobiography. Putting aside the fact that I think it's a shameless cash in that will have next to nothing to do with the actual source material and also putting aside the mistakes I've seen in the trailer alone (needlessly adjusting the scope on the rifle, the magnification dial making clicks like an adjustment turret, his claim of a target 200 yards away that is clearly lucky to be 50 yards away)

Even with all those negatives, I am still pumped to see this movie. I'm a big fan of Bradley Cooper and even sub par shooting movies keep me happy so this one is definitely on my watchlist.

Here's the trailer for anyone who's interested

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&sour ... Cu54-ZzVLA

[Westy]

looks good to go!!!!! whens it out??

[Baldrick314]

looks good to go!!!!! whens it out??

Mid January I think

[1290]

I just saw the first trailer for American Sniper, the movie version of Chris Kyle's autobiography. Putting aside the fact that I think it's a shameless cash in that will have next to nothing to do with the actual source material and also putting aside the mistakes I've seen in the trailer alone (needlessly adjusting the scope on the rifle, the magnification dial making clicks like an adjustment turret, his claim of a target 200 yards away that is clearly lucky to be 50 yards away)

Even with all those negatives, I am still pumped to see this movie. I'm a big fan of Bradley Cooper and even sub par shooting movies keep me happy so this one is definitely on my watchlist.

Here's the trailer for anyone who's interested

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&sour ... Cu54-ZzVLA

I wonder if its as good as Marky Marks effort, with the highly visible blanks and continually recocking the semi auto '50, other than that it was a good movie....

Jans a long time to wait.... I'll forget by then.

some others;
Sniper: Legacy, was interesting
Hornets Nest, a doco, but paints a picture for you...

Good copies streaming on Viooz stacks of other shooter type movies too!

[Baldrick314]

The thing with the 50 in shooter was they couldn't get it to cycle with blanks, they had intended for it to fire semi auto but couldn't fix it.

I guess there was time/ budgeting constraints that stopped them from doing it properly.

Thanks for the heads up on the other movies, will have to check them out.

[Norton]

Yeah nice.

Bradley Cooper is a good pick for the roll.

[Ken]

Anyone watched the trailer for "Fury" with Brad Pitt?

Another winner by the looks of it.

[padaro]

Fury looks good.

Much better war movie after that inglorious effort. Why do they make people do stupid accents?

[1290]

The thing with the 50 in shooter was they couldn't get it to cycle with blanks, they had intended for it to fire semi auto but couldn't fix it. I guess there was time/ budgeting constraints that stopped them from doing it properly.

Thanks for the heads up on the other movies, will have to check them out.

I guess they figured most of the peeps wouldnt pick up on it.... especially the crimped blanks...

Not directly shooting related, does involve sending the US off to war though, 'Wag the Dog' from 1997, recommend all watch it. Apparently The Serbs played it on TV during one of the (FYR) Yugoslavian 'escapades', you'll understand one you've watched it....

[Baldrick314]

Not directly shooting related, does involve sending the US off to war though, 'Wag the Dog' from 1997, recommend all watch it. Apparently The Serbs played it on TV during one of the (FYR) Yugoslavian 'escapades', you'll understand one you've watched it....

I actually had that recommended to me by a friend the other day. Waiting on a loan of the DVD from them

[1290]

Not directly shooting related, does involve sending the US off to war though, 'Wag the Dog' from 1997, recommend all watch it. Apparently The Serbs played it on TV during one of the (FYR) Yugoslavian 'escapades', you'll understand one you've watched it....

I actually had that recommended to me by a friend the other day. Waiting on a loan of the DVD from them

your wait is over.......http://viooz.ac/movies/3682-wag-the-dog-1997.html

[Baldrick314]

Cheers 1290

[gherx]

I guess they figured most of the peeps wouldnt pick up on it.... especially the crimped blanks...

Is that what it was ejecting?

I didn't notice, I'll have to watch that scene again.

[Baldrick314]

Got to watch this the other night. On the whole it was pretty good. Couple of points where it strayed from the true story and a few total BS moments (using a sat phone for a private call during active combat) but otherwise I really enjoyed it.

[headspace]

I read the book some time back, and the bloke was a very dedicated sniper. It's not a job just anyone can do, the training alone is incredible. In the book he used 3 different rifles including a 300 Win Mag, depending on where he was working. You should have seen the uninformed sprays on fartbook.
JD

[on_one_wheel]

Watching it right now at work, lol

[Baldrick314]

I read the book some time back, and the bloke was a very dedicated sniper. It's not a job just anyone can do, the training alone is incredible. In the book he used 3 different rifles including a 300 Win Mag, depending on where he was working. You should have seen the uninformed sprays on fartbook.
JD

Yeah I saw some absolute crap from people who have no idea.

I read the book too, thoroughly enjoyed it. If you liked American Sniper read SEAL Target Geronimo. It's about the hunt for Bin Laden. Written by an ex-SEAL, it's a great read.

[Jack V]

There was only one thing wrong that I could see with that and that was the folded bipod resting on the pack . That is not good for smooth recoil tracking . However it's only short range . There was no unnecessary scope adjustments it looked to me to be an Ocular focus adjustment which happens all the time when your eyes are under strain looking through a scope for long periods your eye focus goes in and out . The target is much more than 50 yards at least 150 to 200 and as they are observing from a high position it can make it look closer like looking over dead ground. Don't become a sniper please .

[Baldrick314]

There was only one thing wrong that I could see with that and that was the folded bipod resting on the pack . That is not good for smooth recoil tracking . However it's only short range . There was no unnecessary scope adjustments it looked to me to be an Ocular focus adjustment which happens all the time when your eyes are under strain looking through a scope for long periods your eye focus goes in and out . The target is much more than 50 yards at least 150 to 200 and as they are observing from a high position it can make it look closer like looking over dead ground. Don't become a sniper please .

First of all I never claimed to be or want to be a sniper.

You are right about the distance after I re-watch that I was way off.

The focus is on the side of the scope facing the camera, the side he adjusts is the side facing away from the camera so he is adjusting his zero.

You can correct people without being rude/ inflammatory

[Gwion]

Wag the Dog is a fantastic film.

American Sniper, not so much for me. Failed to engage and involve me. Too many scenes rushed together with too little connecting them other than 'American hero' cliches. Characters came and went and they were all lacking any depth.
Maybe a good representation of a time line but tried to fit too much in too make it work as an engaging film.

Just my point of view.

[KWhorenet]

"The focus is on the side of the scope facing the camera, the side he adjusts is the side facing away from the camera so he is adjusting his zero."
You talking about at 40 sec in the clip ? Maybe I'm seeing it differently. I see no side dial being adjusted at all.

I think Lorgar fitted that scope so who knows which turret is on which side anyway

[Jack V]

There was only one thing wrong that I could see with that and that was the folded bipod resting on the pack . That is not good for smooth recoil tracking . However it's only short range . There was no unnecessary scope adjustments it looked to me to be an Ocular focus adjustment which happens all the time when your eyes are under strain looking through a scope for long periods your eye focus goes in and out . The target is much more than 50 yards at least 150 to 200 and as they are observing from a high position it can make it look closer like looking over dead ground. Don't become a sniper please .

First of all I never claimed to be or want to be a sniper.

You are right about the distance after I re-watch that I was way off.

The focus is on the side of the scope facing the camera, the side he adjusts is the side facing away from the camera so he is adjusting his zero.

You can correct people without being rude/ inflammatory

If you look you will see a left to right wind shown by the smoke , initially it looks to me like a windage adjustment which would not be out of character if you had too much already on the dial or was already at zero windage and wanted a click or two left but I will concede that the wind looks mild anyway .
The parallax is on the side but Ocular and zoom is at the rear . It's hard to tell if he is zooming the power ring or not . Either way it is not overtly unusual scope behaviour as compared to some other movies . I am sorry for what I said but your range estimation was way off .

[Baldrick314]

"The focus is on the side of the scope facing the camera, the side he adjusts is the side facing away from the camera so he is adjusting his zero."
You talking about at 40 sec in the clip ? Maybe I'm seeing it differently. I see no side dial being adjusted at all.

I think Lorgar fitted that scope so who knows which turret is on which side anyway

At the start you'll see him move his hands next to the scope and you hear a couple of clicks. I think it's about 10-15 seconds in from memory

[Chronos]

"The focus is on the side of the scope facing the camera, the side he adjusts is the side facing away from the camera so he is adjusting his zero."
You talking about at 40 sec in the clip ? Maybe I'm seeing it differently. I see no side dial being adjusted at all.

I think Lorgar fitted that scope so who knows which turret is on which side anyway

At the start you'll see him move his hands next to the scope and you hear a couple of clicks. I think it's about 10-15 seconds in from memory

Yes just after the ground troop kicks in the door he makes a wind age adjustment but at 40sec he makes a magnification adjustment and you hear clicks again.

I think it's just a post prod guy earning his keep, all those sound effects are added in later on and it's annoying no one picks that stuff up.

The rufle resting in the pack is a common thing, I've seen rabbit ear rests strapped to molle for that exact reason and it looks like the bipod is forward or the bag. Besides free recoil isn't in the military vocabulary.

Going to see it this weekend. I heard the guy who plays his sporter it Kyles actual Spotter. Not sure if that's true.



Chronos

[Jack V]

The right side would be the windage adjustment and parallax focus on the left . I can't hear the clicks but my ear drums were damaged in combat so I will take your word on that . I think it's a few clicks left due to the left to right wind which is reasonably acceptable because you don't know where the turret dial may be from a previous shot . It's all theoretical thinking because it's a movie and there's no previous shot . I don't see anything overtly unacceptable in the handling of the scope but the bi-pod digging into the forend rest ( pack whatever) is not great but it's an improvised rest and short range , it happens .

[Chronos]

Jack watch it again, he make a wind age adjustment at around 15 sec



but at 40 sec he makes an ocular adjustment and you hear clicks.



I think that's what the op said....4 month ago.

Chronos

[Westy]

I think Lorgar fitted that scope so who knows which turret is on which side anyway

Bugger I was aiming right at him but hit the guy next to him ( scratch head )

Ohh I see this is Logars Gun???

So has anyone seen it yet?? I might go today to get outta this rain!!!!

[Baldrick314]

Jack as I said you are completely right, my estimation of the range was way off. And yeah you're right it's kind of pointless arguing the "facts" from a movie

Westy yeah it's worth the watch. Doesn't tell the full story but that would be impossible in movie format. Also the timing and sequence of certain events are changed and some completely invented for the sake of the pace of the movie.

All of that said it's still an enjoyable watch

[Jack V]

Jack watch it again, he make a wind age adjustment at around 15 sec



but at 40 sec he makes an ocular adjustment and you hear clicks.



I think that's what the op said....4 month ago.

Chronos

Yes your right I already said that . As far as movies go it looks fairly ok to me.

[KWhorenet]

time for a group hug