juststarting wrote:Okies, so rifle wise, I am on Tikka CTR and occasionally on Browning X-Bolt. Both using hand loads. 168gn HPBT Noslers with 43gn of AR2208. Though I think I will be moving to 43.5 and 44 next time I go, I think.
juststarting wrote:Hi all
What would be considered a good group, for a .308 at 100m (bipod from a bench)?
Not really knowing (in person) anyone who shoots more than me, I really don't have a baseline. So I am invoking the braintrust.
I can more often than not shoot 2cm group (been measuring with Range Buddy app). Been practicing On occasion, I can make a clover and other times, well, I don't know what's going on, but I suspect wife may be pulling bullets tampering with powder loads and re-seating them at night (I am sticking to this story) because they end up all over the place.
Then I look at guys at the range who look experienced, carefully shooting each round and taking notes (they look important, because I just take a photo) and I can't say their groups are fantastic. Although, that could be them just testing different hand-loads, who knows...
So, what would be considered a good group, for a .308 at 100m from a bench.
Discuss
Thanks
Supaduke wrote:I've heard if you shoot a small enough group you can open a wormhole to another dimension........
bigfellascott wrote:f*** shootin groups at the range, get out bush and start shooting one hole groups on fur! why waste ammo/barrel killing paper
bigfellascott wrote:f*** shootin groups at the range, get out bush and start shooting one hole groups on fur! why waste ammo/barrel killing paper
Gamerancher wrote:O.P, in reality, in a standard hunting rifle, if you are getting 2cm groups off a bi-pod @ 100m, set and forget. You can spend a lot of $$, time and effort to shrink that by another .5cm. Anything that will consistently shoot under an inch is going to be good enough to go bush with. If you were looking to head shoot things at 400+m that's another kettle of fish. Have you tried taking the bi-pod off and shooting it off a proper bench rest? We shoot out to 500m in Metallic Silhouette and if my loads are at that inch @ 100 that's good enough for me. Okay, a couple of them do shoot way better than that but I wont spend countless hours and $ chasing it.
As for seeing what others are shooting at the range, don't sweat it. Just 'cause they're at the bench, it don't mean they are a bench-rest shooter.
Consistency is the name of the game, one "magic" tiny group isn't a good indicator. Work on your hold and trigger control will be more beneficial than playing with that load.
POD89 wrote:you know what...
I just found a whole discussion on it on here called "bipod vs sand bags"