bigfellascott wrote:I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned it's always best to start at the minimum recommended load in any load data you are using - then just go up in say .3gn increments keeping any eye out for signs of pressure etc (the book will tell you what to look for) don't exceed the max recommended load to be on the safe side (plenty do but best to just keep it safe for now until you are more experienced and understand the whole process better).
happyhunter wrote:Has anybody actually tested the FL vs neck sizing idea? Curious if anybody has actually tried both and measured the results in their rifle?
Adlippy wrote:The minimum and max load data that's in these books, do they vary from book to book( take it they do regarding Harvey's book), manufacturer to manufacturer etc, how would someone like me who has no idea actually no? Do you need to buy a few books and compare?
Adlippy wrote:The minimum and max load data that's in these books, do they vary from book to book( take it they do regarding Harvey's book), manufacturer to manufacturer etc, how would someone like me who has no idea actually no? Do you need to buy a few books and compare?
bigfellascott wrote:Also before you go loading up the cases get one of the empty cases and full length size it and see if it chambers...
bladeracer wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Also before you go loading up the cases get one of the empty cases and full length size it and see if it chambers...
Why wouldn't you try the brass before you full-length size it?
Even fired brass from another rifle has a pretty good chance of working fine in yours, so it's worth trying it first.
bigfellascott wrote:Nope, I rather FLS the brass from other firearms (too many diff tolerances in chambers) - that way I know they will work, would be nothing worse than loading a heap up only to find some won't chamber, easier to just FLS em back to factory specs and know they will work once you try a couple to see if the dies are set up correctly.
ie - I couldn't use the brass from my Sako 222 in my Howa 222, the tolerances were diff (tried it out of curiosity one day) for me if I have the same cal in diff rifles I just keep the brass separate that way I only have to neck size them before reloading which of course is easier on the brass.
bladeracer wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Nope, I rather FLS the brass from other firearms (too many diff tolerances in chambers) - that way I know they will work, would be nothing worse than loading a heap up only to find some won't chamber, easier to just FLS em back to factory specs and know they will work once you try a couple to see if the dies are set up correctly.
ie - I couldn't use the brass from my Sako 222 in my Howa 222, the tolerances were diff (tried it out of curiosity one day) for me if I have the same cal in diff rifles I just keep the brass separate that way I only have to neck size them before reloading which of course is easier on the brass.
I meant try it to see if it chambers in the rifle first rather than simply assuming it won't
If it chambers okay then you know it'll be fine after you load it up, although it's still good practise to check that the first few feed through your rifle before loading the whole batch..
Gamerancher wrote:Same also with new brass. The manufacturing process has allowable variation tolerances and subsequent handling can leave brass deformed. Also, unless you are paying top dollar for "competition" quality brass they will vary, sometimes by a fair bit. Best practice is to size, trim to length and deburr flash holes from the get go. You then have brass that is going to be a lot more uniform from the start. Of course there is a lot more things you can do to "accurise" you brass but we are talking starting off here.
happyhunter wrote:New R+P unprimed 204 case. Usually get a few like this from a bag of 100. Assumed running new cases through the die was standard practise?
Gamerancher wrote:happyhunter wrote:New R+P unprimed 204 case. Usually get a few like this from a bag of 100. Assumed running new cases through the die was standard practise?
It is for me and I dare say for all experienced reloaders. But, we are supposed to be answering the O.P's original question and pointing him in the right direction.
I have seen inexperienced fella's buy new brass and just start loading with the mindset that it is new therefore it will be right.
Gamerancher wrote:happyhunter wrote:New R+P unprimed 204 case. Usually get a few like this from a bag of 100. Assumed running new cases through the die was standard practise?
It is for me and I dare say for all experienced reloaders. But, we are supposed to be answering the O.P's original question and pointing him in the right direction.
I have seen inexperienced fella's buy new brass and just start loading with the mindset that it is new therefore it will be right.
sandgroperbill wrote:OB, starting to think you and I are what some might refer to as hillbillies.
Brewing our own beer, rolling our own ammo, making our own jerky and biltong. I even have the tobacco pipe.
Now... Just to find me a nice rocking chair...