The 21st Century ADF

[Daddybang]

If it was legal I'd happily have one on the ute for mobs of pigs

[duncan61]

Can I hold the camera

[Gwion]

Super star.I liked SLR and greens.The plastic stuff and bubble pattern camo was just coming in when I left.I carried the Bren for the last year I was there.I was offered a Bren not that long ago for $1500.Not sure they will licence it for shooting green eye finch

Isn't the bren a full auto lmg? As such isn't it highly illegal to privately own one and has been for many many years?

Yes.

[Gwion]

I was joking

You do realise that these 'jokes' can be taken out of context and used to illustrate (wrongly) that the shooting community is full of people with no regard for the laws?

It is not a great idea and this is not the first time you have alluded to legally questionable practices on your part!

[Daddybang]

I was joking

You do realise that these 'jokes' can be taken out of context and used to illustrate (wrongly) that the shooting community is full of people with no regard for the laws?

It is not a great idea and this is not the first time you have alluded to legally questionable practices on your part!

Yep that's what those emoti things are there.
Back to the topic I was reading an article yesterday(it was a week old) where a feminist was talking about the special forces and how women are more than capable of filling this role. No worries with that but in the next breath she was complaining that the selection process was all geared towards men and it should be changed to make it easier for women to get thru and she was saying this with a straight face

[Gamerancher]

You want to talk about "equality" crap?
The NSW fire brigade has made it compulsory that 50% of all fire-fighters now employed are women, with a corresponding drop in selection standards so that they can pass.

[bigfellascott]

I was joking

You do realise that these 'jokes' can be taken out of context and used to illustrate (wrongly) that the shooting community is full of people with no regard for the laws?

It is not a great idea and this is not the first time you have alluded to legally questionable practices on your part!

Yep that's what those emoti things are there.
Back to the topic I was reading an article yesterday(it was a week old) where a feminist was talking about the special forces and how women are more than capable of filling this role. No worries with that but in the next breath she was complaining that the selection process was all geared towards men and it should be changed to make it easier for women to get thru and she was saying this with a straight face

[Oldbloke]

You want to talk about "equality" crap?
The NSW fire brigade has made it compulsory that 50% of all fire-fighters now employed are women, with a corresponding drop in selection standards so that they can pass.

Political correctness gone made. Could easily cause safety issues in real life.

[Gamerancher]

Yeah, I have a mate that is a full-time firey. He reckons there is now way some of them would be able to carry him out of danger if anything ever went wrong.

[9line]

Diversity is compromise. Tell me, would you be comfortable with your national defense force being compromised?

This whole thing is a sick joke.

[doc]

Doesn't anyone else think it's strange how many countries in the West have had their leaders make decisions to actively undermine their defense force. (I can't think of a bigger example than Obama at present).

I reckon this is part of the true agenda of Political Correctness - not to actually be correct and 'nice', but to bring about major illogical change that would otherwise be slammed down with an excuse of it being PC, equality, or whatever 'current social warrior trend' they put on it to serve a 'who knows what' purpose.

Never used to consider myself a tin foil hat person, but after PM my suspicion level's gone up a few notches to say the least.

[JimmyS]

I reckon this is part of the true agenda of Political Correctness - not to actually be correct and 'nice', but to bring about major illogical change that would otherwise be slammed down with an excuse of it being PC, equality, or whatever 'current social warrior trend' they put on it to serve a 'who knows what' purpose.

I get what your saying. I've been observing more and more, all this crazy change happening at a rapid pace, illogical change that makes no sense, surely this isn't normal? I won't go too loopy here, but what your saying is logical to anyone with a sane mind that can see a little more into things, than just what is in front of them.

[Daddybang]

The other side of the coin is that just recently in Syria where there were two forces 1 of men and 1 of women the womens army was the more successful and feared by ISIS.

Yep but I reckon the women in the peshmerga weren't given any less training than the blokes before going into combat

[Daddybang]

Actually the peshmerga forces were quite well trained by coalition special forces

[Gwion]

I don't care if you're a man, a woman, gay, straight or tranny. If you can prove yourself capable of a role then you should be in that role. However, "dumbing down" selection criteria in any role, but especially in mission critical roles, just endangers yourself, your colleagues and ultimately, the mission. This is true in business, emergency services and the armed forces.

Some roles are fairly utilitarian, and that's fine for a pretty generalist selection, but others just have specific requirements for mission success and if you can't meet them you either need more preparation before applying or reevaluate your grasp on reality!

[Daddybang]

I don't care if you're a man, a woman, gay, straight or tranny. If you can prove yourself capable of a role then you should be in that role. However, "dumbing down" selection criteria in any role, but especially in mission critical roles, just endangers yourself, your colleagues and ultimately, the mission. This is true in business, emergency services and the armed forces.

Some roles are fairly utilitarian, and that's fine for a pretty generalist selection, but others just have specific requirements for mission success and if you can't meet them you either need more preparation before applying or reevaluate your grasp on reality!

Yep well said

[BRNO_Bigot]

The other side of the coin is that just recently in Syria where there were two forces 1 of men and 1 of women the womens army was the more successful and feared by ISIS.

This may explain why - the feared part anyway:

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
and the women come out to cut up what remains,
jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
and go to your gawd like a soldier.

Rudyard Kipling

[Gwion]

They are feared by ISIS because of the shame associated with dying at the hands of a woman; particularly one of that faith.