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Wapol incompetence

Post by womble » 23 May 2025, 4:20 am

Confusion over licensing and access to hunting grounds under WA's strict gun laws
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-22/firearms-licensing-hunting-grounds-access-under-gun-laws/105322578
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Re: Wapol incompetence

Post by bigrich » 23 May 2025, 5:02 am

womble wrote:Confusion over licensing and access to hunting grounds under WA's strict gun laws
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-22/firearms-licensing-hunting-grounds-access-under-gun-laws/105322578


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Post by Wapiti » 23 May 2025, 6:52 am

"A local person who has been hunting and shooting roos and goannas on Yuin probably for about 50 years now, ever since I've been a kid, he was quite distressed and anxious."
Could WA hunters, visiting from the suburbs, shoot goannas and roos? They must be talking about aboriginal folk, surely?

And the ABC as the headline picture, as well as below, shows a kangaroo and a mob of emus.
Am I just now suspicious of everything lately, or is this designed to be subtly emotive against firearm owners?

Anyway, better news because it seems the SSAA is really stepping up. A bit too late after people have fire-sale'd and handed guns to the copshop for the black market, but nonetheless.
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Post by womble » 23 May 2025, 4:39 pm

I think that’s the intention. To circulate more unregistered firearms in the black market so they can say they have a gun problem.
Which they really don’t.
Every other state heavily encourages registration for good reason and WA limits it. Stupid and incompetent.
Another win on the board for organised crime. Easy money. And the black market price for an unregistered firearm is top dollar.
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Post by Oldbloke » 23 May 2025, 9:23 pm

What can I say the debacle continues.

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Re: Wapol incompetence

Post by womble » 24 May 2025, 12:34 pm

General Practitioners reject the new laws

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ9MPzA_fWU&pp=0gcJCY0JAYcqIYzv
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Post by Oldbloke » 24 May 2025, 10:32 pm

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Post by Faedy » 25 May 2025, 1:04 am

I had to endure this 2 weeks ago as part of the transition from RecHunt to Business lic under new bulls**t regs.
Very hard to find a Doc willing to oblige.
Took a bit of ringing around but I found a good bloke who did the nessesary paperwork for me.
Helped that he was a fellow hunter as well.

womble wrote:General Practitioners reject the new laws

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ9MPzA_fWU&pp=0gcJCY0JAYcqIYzv
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Post by noneyabussiness » 25 May 2025, 7:15 am

If he's willing, Maybe this doc could help out a lot of other wa shooters??
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Post by Wapiti » 25 May 2025, 7:49 am

Faedy wrote:I had to endure this 2 weeks ago as part of the transition from RecHunt to Business lic under new bulls**t regs.
Very hard to find a Doc willing to oblige.
Took a bit of ringing around but I found a good bloke who did the nessesary paperwork for me.
Helped that he was a fellow hunter as well.

womble wrote:General Practitioners reject the new laws

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ9MPzA_fWU&pp=0gcJCY0JAYcqIYzv


That will be a telling factor, whether a GP is a shooter or a strong supporter of people's conservative rights.

My wife has classes or firearms on her license most people here don't, yet she says she wouldn't ever be able to certify someone is fit to own a firearms license mentally. Psychos are very good at pretending. And the physical side of it, that assessment requirement is just so fundamentally wrong.

No sure whether too many people are aware, by GP's get scurrilously accused of malpractice regularly, mostly by people who don't get what they want. It can cost $2K a month for this legal indemnity insurance for a private GP, and they will not risk doing something that could result in them not having that cover.

It's easy for disgusting politicians and otherwise useless public service employees to make stupid requirements, they are indemnified against their stupid decisions by law. Funny how society's lowest forms of usefulness are.
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Re: Wapol incompetence

Post by bigrich » 25 May 2025, 8:00 am

if you did mental health checks on cops , a lot of them probably wouldn't pass to handle firearms due to stress and on the job trauma . i've got no problem with cops , be a really hard job to stay sane in with some of the stupid f@cked up stuff they'd have to deal with . any anti gun doctor will use his personal veiws to cancel firearms licenses left and right . what a ridiculous unworkable set of rules. some public servants must be really proud of themselves :sarcasm:

and without pushback this rubbish is coming to all states ....... :thumbsdown:
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Post by alexjones » 25 May 2025, 9:38 am

I don't like police as a whole. Every encounter I have had with them I find them to be arrogant and useless and I treat them accordingly. I don't see why the law allows them to open carry for public safety but we can't? They are not better than us. Because I won court cases against the police they made me see a psychologist and have meetings with the police to prove I was fit and proper when I applied for my cat C and D even though I already owned 20 guns at that point. They made jump through so many hoops.

I seen the psychologist five times for an hour each time at hundreds of dollars an hour that I had to pay for.


What was your childhood like, whats your work like, whats your home life like, whats this like and whats that like. If you see someone you don't like would you cross the street to avoid them, do you have an alcohol or drug problem, what do you think about violence etc etc etc. So many questions to try and profile me.
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Post by bigrich » 25 May 2025, 5:10 pm

alexjones wrote:I don't like police as a whole. Every encounter I have had with them I find them to be arrogant and useless and I treat them accordingly. I don't see why the law allows them to open carry for public safety but we can't? They are not better than us. Because I won court cases against the police they made me see a psychologist and have meetings with the police to prove I was fit and proper when I applied for my cat C and D even though I already owned 20 guns at that point. They made jump through so many hoops.

I seen the psychologist five times for an hour each time at hundreds of dollars an hour that I had to pay for.


What was your childhood like, whats your work like, whats your home life like, whats this like and whats that like. If you see someone you don't like would you cross the street to avoid them, do you have an alcohol or drug problem, what do you think about violence etc etc etc. So many questions to try and profile me.


i'm always polite and respectful to cops and never struck a bad one . they've actually gone out of their way to help me out a couple of times . i'm not trying to be a smart arse , but you do seem slightly confrontational at times mate ;)

if you beat the cops in court ,and it's gotten personal between you and them , well their definitely gunna be out to even the score . at the very least f@ck you around . the best way to beat the system is stay off their radar in the first place unless you really have to go into bat .
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Post by Oldbloke » 25 May 2025, 5:38 pm

bigrich wrote:
alexjones wrote:I don't like police as a whole. Every encounter I have had with them I find them to be arrogant and useless and I treat them accordingly. I don't see why the law allows them to open carry for public safety but we can't? They are not better than us. Because I won court cases against the police they made me see a psychologist and have meetings with the police to prove I was fit and proper when I applied for my cat C and D even though I already owned 20 guns at that point. They made jump through so many hoops.

I seen the psychologist five times for an hour each time at hundreds of dollars an hour that I had to pay for.


What was your childhood like, whats your work like, whats your home life like, whats this like and whats that like. If you see someone you don't like would you cross the street to avoid them, do you have an alcohol or drug problem, what do you think about violence etc etc etc. So many questions to try and profile me.


i'm always polite and respectful to cops and never struck a bad one . they've actually gone out of their way to help me out a couple of times . i'm not trying to be a smart arse , but you do seem slightly confrontational at times mate ;)

if you beat the cops in court ,and it's gotten personal between you and them , well their definitely gunna be out to even the score . at the very least f@ck you around . the best way to beat the system is stay off their radar in the first place unless you really have to go into bat .


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Post by alexjones » 25 May 2025, 8:07 pm

bigrich wrote:
alexjones wrote:I don't like police as a whole. Every encounter I have had with them I find them to be arrogant and useless and I treat them accordingly. I don't see why the law allows them to open carry for public safety but we can't? They are not better than us. Because I won court cases against the police they made me see a psychologist and have meetings with the police to prove I was fit and proper when I applied for my cat C and D even though I already owned 20 guns at that point. They made jump through so many hoops.

I seen the psychologist five times for an hour each time at hundreds of dollars an hour that I had to pay for.


What was your childhood like, whats your work like, whats your home life like, whats this like and whats that like. If you see someone you don't like would you cross the street to avoid them, do you have an alcohol or drug problem, what do you think about violence etc etc etc. So many questions to try and profile me.


i'm always polite and respectful to cops and never struck a bad one . they've actually gone out of their way to help me out a couple of times . i'm not trying to be a smart arse , but you do seem slightly confrontational at times mate ;)

if you beat the cops in court ,and it's gotten personal between you and them , well their definitely gunna be out to even the score . at the very least f@ck you around . the best way to beat the system is stay off their radar in the first place unless you really have to go into bat .




Look your not wrong mate, sometimes I should keep my mouth shut and smile and nod just to make my life easier. However I just physically can't succumb and comply to what I perceive goes against my moral compass or the rule of law.

Winning court cases against the police does embarrass them. But I like it because it just makes me have to live my life extra squeaky clean.
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Re: Wapol incompetence

Post by womble » 26 May 2025, 4:09 am

We like the police. They’re great. Nothing to see here :thumbsup:
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Post by bigrich » 26 May 2025, 4:37 am

alexjones wrote:
bigrich wrote:
alexjones wrote:I don't like police as a whole. Every encounter I have had with them I find them to be arrogant and useless and I treat them accordingly. I don't see why the law allows them to open carry for public safety but we can't? They are not better than us. Because I won court cases against the police they made me see a psychologist and have meetings with the police to prove I was fit and proper when I applied for my cat C and D even though I already owned 20 guns at that point. They made jump through so many hoops.

I seen the psychologist five times for an hour each time at hundreds of dollars an hour that I had to pay for.


What was your childhood like, whats your work like, whats your home life like, whats this like and whats that like. If you see someone you don't like would you cross the street to avoid them, do you have an alcohol or drug problem, what do you think about violence etc etc etc. So many questions to try and profile me.


i'm always polite and respectful to cops and never struck a bad one . they've actually gone out of their way to help me out a couple of times . i'm not trying to be a smart arse , but you do seem slightly confrontational at times mate ;)

if you beat the cops in court ,and it's gotten personal between you and them , well their definitely gunna be out to even the score . at the very least f@ck you around . the best way to beat the system is stay off their radar in the first place unless you really have to go into bat .




Look your not wrong mate, sometimes I should keep my mouth shut and smile and nod just to make my life easier. However I just physically can't succumb and comply to what I perceive goes against my moral compass or the rule of law.

Winning court cases against the police does embarrass them. But I like it because it just makes me have to live my life extra squeaky clean.


your right about living a cleaner life . having a firearms license has made me clean up my act , i take being a "fit and proper person" seriously . i try to take a more gentlemanly approach to things now.

i knew some very colourful characters when i was younger . i choose the people i know and hang out with more carefully these days, not just due to associating with people who could compromise my license due to their past history or personal habits, but friends of friend's who might like to "borrow" my guns without my consent . being a gun owner is a more serious matter these days . i remember when i was a kid, firearms were kept in the bedroom wardrobe or under the bed ;)
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Post by alexjones » 26 May 2025, 6:21 am

bigrich wrote:
alexjones wrote:
bigrich wrote:
alexjones wrote:I don't like police as a whole. Every encounter I have had with them I find them to be arrogant and useless and I treat them accordingly. I don't see why the law allows them to open carry for public safety but we can't? They are not better than us. Because I won court cases against the police they made me see a psychologist and have meetings with the police to prove I was fit and proper when I applied for my cat C and D even though I already owned 20 guns at that point. They made jump through so many hoops.

I seen the psychologist five times for an hour each time at hundreds of dollars an hour that I had to pay for.


What was your childhood like, whats your work like, whats your home life like, whats this like and whats that like. If you see someone you don't like would you cross the street to avoid them, do you have an alcohol or drug problem, what do you think about violence etc etc etc. So many questions to try and profile me.


i'm always polite and respectful to cops and never struck a bad one . they've actually gone out of their way to help me out a couple of times . i'm not trying to be a smart arse , but you do seem slightly confrontational at times mate ;)

if you beat the cops in court ,and it's gotten personal between you and them , well their definitely gunna be out to even the score . at the very least f@ck you around . the best way to beat the system is stay off their radar in the first place unless you really have to go into bat .




Look your not wrong mate, sometimes I should keep my mouth shut and smile and nod just to make my life easier. However I just physically can't succumb and comply to what I perceive goes against my moral compass or the rule of law.

Winning court cases against the police does embarrass them. But I like it because it just makes me have to live my life extra squeaky clean.


your right about living a cleaner life . having a firearms license has made me clean up my act , i take being a "fit and proper person" seriously . i try to take a more gentlemanly approach to things now.

i knew some very colourful characters when i was younger . i choose the people i know and hang out with more carefully these days, not just due to associating with people who could compromise my license due to their past history or personal habits, but friends of friend's who might like to "borrow" my guns without my consent . being a gun owner is a more serious matter these days . i remember when i was a kid, firearms were kept in the bedroom wardrobe or under the bed ;)



Exactly mate. Nothing is worth losing our licence over. Something so stupid that does not even really matter could have our guns taken off us. That's why it is best to just keep a cool head.
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Re: Wapol incompetence

Post by Wapiti » 26 May 2025, 6:49 am

Sounds like a good way to make the bulk of the people compliant, no matter how insidious the creep of their standards and rights.
Just quietly comply, in case the boat got rocked a bit too much. Proof it's working well.
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Post by alexjones » 26 May 2025, 7:44 am

Wapiti wrote:Sounds like a good way to make the bulk of the people compliant, no matter how insidious the creep of their standards and rights.
Just quietly comply, in case the boat got rocked a bit too much. Proof it's working well.


That's the whole purpose of the gun registry.
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Post by bigrich » 26 May 2025, 9:19 am

Wapiti wrote:Sounds like a good way to make the bulk of the people compliant, no matter how insidious the creep of their standards and rights.
Just quietly comply, in case the boat got rocked a bit too much. Proof it's working well.


That’s why we need a NRA style advocate group in this country. Going head to head with the system is an expensive thing with no guarantee even if you win WLB will back down. They’re not accountable and a law unto themselves
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